Font help

[Paulo Ney de Souza]

Yes, in general, the way style files are written they tend to be complete
and call for way more fonts then would end up being used in the book.

Asking for everything they have would be one of the best ways to proceed,
but be aware that if this is from Y&Y TeX, as I believe, chances are he may
not have much more.

If you want me to look at the files with you, give me a howl, I am in the
next building over (Evans)...though not today, next week.

Paulo Ney

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:30 PM Sanjay Govindjee <s_g at berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for the advice.  I started by replacing these fonts with ones that
> I thought matched to some degree the original intent, say, times,
> helvetica, etc.  However as I got into it, I realized that the style files
> were grabbing an untold number of hard to decipher fonts -- though google
> is pretty helpful.
>
> I think I am going to go back to the publisher and ask them to run the
> compile of the book and send a zip of the complete run, log files and all.
> At that point I can look in the log files and I can ask them details of
> their configuration.
>
> Thanks for trying to help me out.
> -sanjay
>
> On 10/27/22 8:56 PM, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:30 PM Sanjay GOVINDJEE <s_g at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Ok, thanks.   Is there anything I can extract from the files to give
>> better hints to you?
>>
>
> Producing an MWE (minimal working example) that shows the problem would be
> nice, but this could be hard if you are starting from a "book" that has its
> own style files, etc ...
>
>
>> Perhaps also there are some good questions that I can ask the publisher
>> about the files?
>> -sanjay
>>
>
> Having a "complete" set of files, that is also including LOG-files is a
> must. From the log-file we would be able to tell what system is it and
> possibly how hard it would be to run it inside a modern TeXLive system.
> Make sure you ask them for the complete-original set of files... even the
> dates on these files can help finding out what is the system they run and
> what will take to update it. It is a bit of forensics...
>
> Another thing you can do, it to replace these fonts that are being
> problematic, in this case
>
>      TIB.PFB
>
> with something trivial (and more modern, and available) just to make it
> process, and then later replace it back with something that can really
> replace it. I think the names TIR, TII, TIB, ... stand for Times-Roman,
> Italic, Bold, Bold-Italic, etc ... so it won't be hard to find something
> modern to replace it.
>
> These names were used by ATM Fonts management and it is old tech and hard
> to mimic in these days TeXLive.
>
> The sources though should be good and very usable.
>
> Paulo Ney
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:31 PM Paulo Ney de Souza <pauloney at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very hard to even get started with, Sanjay, especially without looking
>>> at the files in more detail. Several of the fonts listed above are
>>> proprietary, which makes it even harder to deal with.
>>>
>>> Some of these font names remind me of the Y&Y TeX system of a few years
>>> back. It would be nice to look at the original "log" file to find out where
>>> it was processed in order to plan a structure to deal with. Installing the
>>> fonts in a new system is very easy -- via XeTeX, and that may be a path to
>>> solve this problem.
>>>
>>> Paulo Ney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sanjay Govindjee <s_g at berkeley.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am working on a book and the publisher has sent me the prior
>>>> edition's
>>>> files.  I am trying to get the files to compile using latex from the
>>>> texlive installation on my Mac but am running into trouble with how to
>>>> deal with the fonts since they appear not to be where latex wants them
>>>> or there are additional problems.
>>>>
>>>> One folder from the publisher contains font files as follows:
>>>>
>>>> HVB_____.PFB    HV______.PFB    ITC-OWBK.FNT    MTEX.PFM MTMI.PFM
>>>> MTMIB.PFM    MTSYN.PFM    OWBI____.PFM OWB_____.PFM    Offici-B.fnt
>>>> TIBI____.PFM    TIB_____.PFM TII_____.PFM    TIR_____.PFM
>>>> ZD______.PFM    timesbd.ttf
>>>> HVB_____.PFM    HV______.PFM    MTEX.PFB    MTMI.PFB    MTMIB.PFB
>>>> MTSYN.PFB    OWBI____.PFB    OWB_____.PFB    Offic-BI.fnt
>>>> TIBI____.PFB    TIB_____.PFB    TII_____.PFB    TIR_____.PFB
>>>> ZD______.PFB    times.ttf
>>>>
>>>> and some of these appear to be loaded in the style files:
>>>>
>>>> Kumba_symbols.tex:\font\rrmu=mtgu at 10pt
>>>> P04_Zienk.sty:\font\tmb=tib at 15pt
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\chapheadfont=TGB2 at 12pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:%\font\chapfont=TGL at 22pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\authorfont=TGB at 14pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\affilfont=TGO at 10pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tocfont=TGB at 8pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\itemheadfont=TGB at 10pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\zapfont=ZD at 2.75pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabfootfont=HVO at 7.5pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabentriesfont=HV at 8.5pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadfont=HVB at 8.5pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadsupfont=HVO at 5.7pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolsubheadfont=HVBO at 8.5pt%
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\titgr=hvmbi at 20pt
>>>> P04_Zienk.tex:\font\higr=hvmbi at 13pt
>>>>
>>>> when I try to run latex it fails at the load of \font\tmb=tib as latex
>>>> tries to run 'mktextfm tib' and then complains " I can't find file
>>>> `tib'
>>>> ".  Any help on pointer on how to get things running (even minimally)
>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> -sanjay
>>>>
>>>>
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