Font help

Sanjay Govindjee s_g at berkeley.edu
Fri Oct 28 17:58:47 CEST 2022


Thanks!  Great to know there is an expert next door;  I guess that is 
the way it always works at Berkeley :)  Let's see what the publisher 
comes back with and then I will contact you.  I'm out of the office for 
the next 1+ weeks.

-sanjay

On 10/28/22 8:27 AM, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote:
> Yes, in general, the way style files are written they tend to be 
> complete and call for way more fonts then would end up being used in 
> the book.
>
> Asking for everything they have would be one of the best ways to 
> proceed, but be aware that if this is from Y&Y TeX, as I believe, 
> chances are he may not have much more.
>
> If you want me to look at the files with you, give me a howl, I am in 
> the next building over (Evans)...though not today, next week.
>
> Paulo Ney
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:30 PM Sanjay Govindjee <s_g at berkeley.edu> 
> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the advice.  I started by replacing these fonts with
>     ones that I thought matched to some degree the original intent,
>     say, times, helvetica, etc.  However as I got into it, I realized
>     that the style files were grabbing an untold number of hard to
>     decipher fonts -- though google is pretty helpful.
>
>     I think I am going to go back to the publisher and ask them to run
>     the compile of the book and send a zip of the complete run, log
>     files and all.  At that point I can look in the log files and I
>     can ask them details of their configuration.
>
>     Thanks for trying to help me out.
>     -sanjay
>     On 10/27/22 8:56 PM, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote:
>>
>>     On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:30 PM Sanjay GOVINDJEE
>>     <s_g at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>         Ok, thanks.   Is there anything I can extract from the files
>>         to give better hints to you?
>>
>>
>>     Producing an MWE (minimal working example) that shows the problem
>>     would be nice, but this could be hard if you are starting from a
>>     "book" that has its own style files, etc ...
>>
>>         Perhaps also there are some good questions that I can ask the
>>         publisher about the files?
>>         -sanjay
>>
>>
>>     Having a "complete" set of files, that is also
>>     including LOG-files is a must. From the log-file we would be able
>>     to tell what system is it and possibly how hard it would be to
>>     run it inside a modern TeXLive system. Make sure you ask them for
>>     the complete-original set of files... even the dates on these
>>     files can help finding out what is the system they run and what
>>     will take to update it. It is a bit of forensics...
>>
>>     Another thing you can do, it to replace these fonts that are
>>     being problematic, in this case
>>
>>          TIB.PFB
>>
>>     with something trivial (and more modern, and available) just to
>>     make it process, and then later replace it back with
>>     something that can really replace it. I think the names TIR, TII,
>>     TIB, ... stand for Times-Roman, Italic, Bold, Bold-Italic, etc
>>     ... so it won't be hard to find something modern to replace it.
>>
>>     These names were used by ATM Fonts management and it is old tech
>>     and hard to mimic in these days TeXLive.
>>
>>     The sources though should be good and very usable.
>>
>>     Paulo Ney
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:31 PM Paulo Ney de Souza
>>         <pauloney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Very hard to even get started with, Sanjay, especially
>>             without looking at the files in more detail. Several of
>>             the fonts listed above are proprietary, which makes it
>>             even harder to deal with.
>>
>>             Some of these font names remind me of the Y&Y TeX system
>>             of a few years back. It would be nice to look at the
>>             original "log" file to find out where it was processed in
>>             order to plan a structure to deal with. Installing the
>>             fonts in a new system is very easy -- via XeTeX, and that
>>             may be a path to solve this problem.
>>
>>             Paulo Ney
>>
>>
>>
>>             On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sanjay Govindjee
>>             <s_g at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>                 I am working on a book and the publisher has sent me
>>                 the prior edition's
>>                 files.  I am trying to get the files to compile using
>>                 latex from the
>>                 texlive installation on my Mac but am running into
>>                 trouble with how to
>>                 deal with the fonts since they appear not to be where
>>                 latex wants them
>>                 or there are additional problems.
>>
>>                 One folder from the publisher contains font files as
>>                 follows:
>>
>>                 HVB_____.PFB    HV______.PFB ITC-OWBK.FNT    MTEX.PFM
>>                 MTMI.PFM
>>                 MTMIB.PFM    MTSYN.PFM    OWBI____.PFM
>>                 OWB_____.PFM    Offici-B.fnt
>>                 TIBI____.PFM    TIB_____.PFM TII_____.PFM TIR_____.PFM
>>                 ZD______.PFM    timesbd.ttf
>>                 HVB_____.PFM    HV______.PFM    MTEX.PFB MTMI.PFB   
>>                 MTMIB.PFB
>>                 MTSYN.PFB    OWBI____.PFB    OWB_____.PFB Offic-BI.fnt
>>                 TIBI____.PFB    TIB_____.PFB TII_____.PFB   
>>                 TIR_____.PFB
>>                 ZD______.PFB    times.ttf
>>
>>                 and some of these appear to be loaded in the style files:
>>
>>                 Kumba_symbols.tex:\font\rrmu=mtgu at 10pt
>>                 P04_Zienk.sty:\font\tmb=tib at 15pt
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\chapheadfont=TGB2 at 12pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:%\font\chapfont=TGL at 22pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\authorfont=TGB at 14pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\affilfont=TGO at 10pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tocfont=TGB at 8pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\itemheadfont=TGB at 10pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\zapfont=ZD at 2.75pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabfootfont=HVO at 7.5pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabentriesfont=HV at 8.5pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadfont=HVB at 8.5pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadsupfont=HVO at 5.7pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolsubheadfont=HVBO at 8.5pt%
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\titgr=hvmbi at 20pt
>>                 P04_Zienk.tex:\font\higr=hvmbi at 13pt
>>
>>                 when I try to run latex it fails at the load of
>>                 \font\tmb=tib as latex
>>                 tries to run 'mktextfm tib' and then complains " I
>>                 can't find file `tib'
>>                 ".  Any help on pointer on how to get things running
>>                 (even minimally)
>>                 would be appreciated.
>>
>>                 Thanks in advance,
>>
>>                 -sanjay
>>
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