<div dir="ltr">Yes, in general, the way style files are written they tend to be complete and call for way more fonts then would end up being used in the book. <div><br></div><div>Asking for everything they have would be one of the best ways to proceed, but be aware that if this is from Y&Y TeX, as I believe, chances are he may not have much more.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want me to look at the files with you, give me a howl, I am in the next building over (Evans)...though not today, next week.</div><div><br></div><div>Paulo Ney</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:30 PM Sanjay Govindjee <<a href="mailto:s_g@berkeley.edu">s_g@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks for the advice. I started by replacing these fonts with ones
that I thought matched to some degree the original intent, say,
times, helvetica, etc. However as I got into it, I realized that
the style files were grabbing an untold number of hard to decipher
fonts -- though google is pretty helpful.<br>
<br>
I think I am going to go back to the publisher and ask them to run
the compile of the book and send a zip of the complete run, log
files and all. At that point I can look in the log files and I can
ask them details of their configuration.<br>
<br>
Thanks for trying to help me out.<br>
-sanjay
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<div>Ok, thanks. Is there anything I can extract from
the files to give better hints to you? </div>
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<div>Producing an MWE (minimal working example) that shows the
problem would be nice, but this could be hard if you are
starting from a "book" that has its own style files, etc ...</div>
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<div>Perhaps also there are some good questions that I can
ask the publisher about the files?</div>
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<div>Having a "complete" set of files, that is also
including LOG-files is a must. From the log-file we would be
able to tell what system is it and possibly how hard it
would be to run it inside a modern TeXLive system. Make sure
you ask them for the complete-original set of files... even
the dates on these files can help finding out what is the
system they run and what will take to update it. It is a bit
of forensics...</div>
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<div>Another thing you can do, it to replace these fonts that
are being problematic, in this case</div>
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<div> TIB.PFB</div>
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<div>with something trivial (and more modern, and available)
just to make it process, and then later replace it back with
something that can really replace it. I think the names TIR,
TII, TIB, ... stand for Times-Roman, Italic, Bold,
Bold-Italic, etc ... so it won't be hard to find something
modern to replace it.</div>
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<div>These names were used by ATM Fonts management and it is
old tech and hard to mimic in these days TeXLive.</div>
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<div>The sources though should be good and very usable.</div>
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<div>Paulo Ney</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Very hard to even get started with,
Sanjay, especially without looking at the files in
more detail. Several of the fonts listed above are
proprietary, which makes it even harder to deal with.
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<div>Some of these font names remind me of the Y&Y
TeX system of a few years back. It would be nice to
look at the original "log" file to find out where it
was processed in order to plan a structure to deal
with. Installing the fonts in a new system is very
easy -- via XeTeX, and that may be a path to solve
this problem.</div>
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<div>Paulo Ney<br>
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at 6:02 PM Sanjay Govindjee <<a href="mailto:s_g@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">s_g@berkeley.edu</a>>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I am working on a
book and the publisher has sent me the prior
edition's <br>
files. I am trying to get the files to compile
using latex from the <br>
texlive installation on my Mac but am running into
trouble with how to <br>
deal with the fonts since they appear not to be
where latex wants them <br>
or there are additional problems.<br>
<br>
One folder from the publisher contains font files as
follows:<br>
<br>
HVB_____.PFB HV______.PFB ITC-OWBK.FNT
MTEX.PFM MTMI.PFM <br>
MTMIB.PFM MTSYN.PFM OWBI____.PFM
OWB_____.PFM Offici-B.fnt <br>
TIBI____.PFM TIB_____.PFM TII_____.PFM
TIR_____.PFM <br>
ZD______.PFM timesbd.ttf<br>
HVB_____.PFM HV______.PFM MTEX.PFB
MTMI.PFB MTMIB.PFB <br>
MTSYN.PFB OWBI____.PFB OWB_____.PFB
Offic-BI.fnt <br>
TIBI____.PFB TIB_____.PFB TII_____.PFB
TIR_____.PFB <br>
ZD______.PFB times.ttf<br>
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and some of these appear to be loaded in the style
files:<br>
<br>
Kumba_symbols.tex:\font\rrmu=mtgu at 10pt<br>
P04_Zienk.sty:\font\tmb=tib at 15pt<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\chapheadfont=TGB2 at 12pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:%\font\chapfont=TGL at 22pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\authorfont=TGB at 14pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\affilfont=TGO at 10pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tocfont=TGB at 8pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\itemheadfont=TGB at 10pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\zapfont=ZD at 2.75pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabfootfont=HVO at 7.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabentriesfont=HV at 8.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadfont=HVB at 8.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadsupfont=HVO at 5.7pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolsubheadfont=HVBO at 8.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\titgr=hvmbi at 20pt<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\higr=hvmbi at 13pt<br>
<br>
when I try to run latex it fails at the load of
\font\tmb=tib as latex <br>
tries to run 'mktextfm tib' and then complains " I
can't find file `tib' <br>
". Any help on pointer on how to get things running
(even minimally) <br>
would be appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
<br>
-sanjay<br>
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