Font help

[Sanjay Govindjee]

Thanks for the advice.  I started by replacing these fonts with ones 
that I thought matched to some degree the original intent, say, times, 
helvetica, etc.  However as I got into it, I realized that the style 
files were grabbing an untold number of hard to decipher fonts -- though 
google is pretty helpful.

I think I am going to go back to the publisher and ask them to run the 
compile of the book and send a zip of the complete run, log files and 
all.  At that point I can look in the log files and I can ask them 
details of their configuration.

Thanks for trying to help me out.
-sanjay

On 10/27/22 8:56 PM, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:30 PM Sanjay GOVINDJEE <s_g at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>     Ok, thanks.   Is there anything I can extract from the files to
>     give better hints to you?
>
>
> Producing an MWE (minimal working example) that shows the problem 
> would be nice, but this could be hard if you are starting from a 
> "book" that has its own style files, etc ...
>
>     Perhaps also there are some good questions that I can ask the
>     publisher about the files?
>     -sanjay
>
>
> Having a "complete" set of files, that is also including LOG-files is 
> a must. From the log-file we would be able to tell what system is it 
> and possibly how hard it would be to run it inside a modern TeXLive 
> system. Make sure you ask them for the complete-original set of 
> files... even the dates on these files can help finding out what is 
> the system they run and what will take to update it. It is a bit of 
> forensics...
>
> Another thing you can do, it to replace these fonts that are being 
> problematic, in this case
>
>      TIB.PFB
>
> with something trivial (and more modern, and available) just to make 
> it process, and then later replace it back with something that can 
> really replace it. I think the names TIR, TII, TIB, ... stand for 
> Times-Roman, Italic, Bold, Bold-Italic, etc ... so it won't be hard to 
> find something modern to replace it.
>
> These names were used by ATM Fonts management and it is old tech and 
> hard to mimic in these days TeXLive.
>
> The sources though should be good and very usable.
>
> Paulo Ney
>
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 7:31 PM Paulo Ney de Souza
>     <pauloney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Very hard to even get started with, Sanjay, especially without
>         looking at the files in more detail. Several of the fonts
>         listed above are proprietary, which makes it even harder to
>         deal with.
>
>         Some of these font names remind me of the Y&Y TeX system of a
>         few years back. It would be nice to look at the original "log"
>         file to find out where it was processed in order to plan a
>         structure to deal with. Installing the fonts in a new system
>         is very easy -- via XeTeX, and that may be a path to solve
>         this problem.
>
>         Paulo Ney
>
>
>
>         On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sanjay Govindjee
>         <s_g at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>             I am working on a book and the publisher has sent me the
>             prior edition's
>             files.  I am trying to get the files to compile using
>             latex from the
>             texlive installation on my Mac but am running into trouble
>             with how to
>             deal with the fonts since they appear not to be where
>             latex wants them
>             or there are additional problems.
>
>             One folder from the publisher contains font files as follows:
>
>             HVB_____.PFB    HV______.PFB    ITC-OWBK.FNT MTEX.PFM
>             MTMI.PFM
>             MTMIB.PFM    MTSYN.PFM    OWBI____.PFM OWB_____.PFM   
>             Offici-B.fnt
>             TIBI____.PFM    TIB_____.PFM TII_____.PFM TIR_____.PFM
>             ZD______.PFM    timesbd.ttf
>             HVB_____.PFM    HV______.PFM    MTEX.PFB MTMI.PFB   
>             MTMIB.PFB
>             MTSYN.PFB    OWBI____.PFB    OWB_____.PFB Offic-BI.fnt
>             TIBI____.PFB    TIB_____.PFB    TII_____.PFB TIR_____.PFB
>             ZD______.PFB    times.ttf
>
>             and some of these appear to be loaded in the style files:
>
>             Kumba_symbols.tex:\font\rrmu=mtgu at 10pt
>             P04_Zienk.sty:\font\tmb=tib at 15pt
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\chapheadfont=TGB2 at 12pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:%\font\chapfont=TGL at 22pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\authorfont=TGB at 14pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\affilfont=TGO at 10pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tocfont=TGB at 8pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\itemheadfont=TGB at 10pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\zapfont=ZD at 2.75pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabfootfont=HVO at 7.5pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabentriesfont=HV at 8.5pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadfont=HVB at 8.5pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadsupfont=HVO at 5.7pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolsubheadfont=HVBO at 8.5pt%
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\titgr=hvmbi at 20pt
>             P04_Zienk.tex:\font\higr=hvmbi at 13pt
>
>             when I try to run latex it fails at the load of
>             \font\tmb=tib as latex
>             tries to run 'mktextfm tib' and then complains " I can't
>             find file `tib'
>             ".  Any help on pointer on how to get things running (even
>             minimally)
>             would be appreciated.
>
>             Thanks in advance,
>
>             -sanjay
>
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