[UK-TUG] Howard's motion: Distribute funds AND Continue UK-TUG

[David Carlisle]

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 14:44, Jonathan Fine <jfine2358 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I fully support Howard Vie's motion. Some wish for our dormant funds to be
> applied to promote and develop TeX. Some wish that UK TUG continues.
> Howard's motion shows that these two wholesome wishes are consistent. This
> solves many problems.
>

This is voting for yet another year of inaction.   It solves no problems at
all. The subject of winding up or not has been essentially the only subject
at the last two AGM (and sporadically for the last 20 years)  There is no
indication  of who would be on such a committee or what any such
constitution would say, just some hope that these unnamed persons can find
something acceptable to write down.

We should wind up UKTUG. As has already been shown if there are useful
activities that can be carried on, distributing DVDs, a UK based tex email
list, the old uktug FAQ,  or whatever, they can be done without any need
for  UKTUG to be kept going for another year and carrying on the kind of
pointless pseudo-legal discussions that have blocked this list for the last
month, and which have made the internal uktug committee discussions largely
dysfunctional as far as I can tell (and was my experience when I was on the
committee)

We should wait until the voting procedures are announced before deciding on
which motions to vote for and whether it makes sense to vote for more than
one. It would have been better really to have had just one motion (Jay's,
on behalf of the committee) to wind up and then we could have had a simple
yes/no vote but we are where we are.

David



> Here is the text of Howard's motion:
> ===
> That UK-TUG continue to function, with the proviso that
> (a) the Committee draft an updated Constitution to better reflect outcomes
> achievable by the group, and arranges for the members to consider this
> update as required by the current  Constitution;
> (b) the Committee reduce asset holdings in line with part (a), donating
> dormant resources to TUG and DANTE
> ===
>
> I will be voting for this motion. If you also support this motion, please
> say so on this list. Passing this motion will give both sides something to
> celebrate!
>
> Happy TeXing
>
> Jonathan
>
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