[UK-TUG] Jonathan Fine's motion for UK TUG AGM

[David Carlisle]

> ...
> (14) The total $2,000 + £6,000 is about £7,600, roughly twice the lower
estimate of £4,000.
> (15) JW and DC are major developers of this project
https://www.learnlatex.org/


In the context of your earlier notes concerning money, I think readers may
misunderstand your point 15 which is true enough as written but you could
make clear that neither of us have any financial benefit from the project
and the site that you can currently see at learnlatex.org has been
developed at no cost (in fact at some cost to us for the the domain names
currently).

There are some costs allocated to the project for some professional web
site development, but  not to the people you mention and the work under
that part of the project is public in github but not live at the link you
gave.

David


On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 13:25, Jonathan Fine <jfine2358 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Below is a motion for the AGM, preceded by a supporting statement. It's
> exactly as I submitted to our secretary Joseph Wright on Tuesday. Joseph
> said he'd circulate it for the AGM. He's not done that yet.
>
> As Jay's just told us we can use this list to discuss AGM business, I've
> decided to post it myself. I'll also publish it, and other things that
> might interest you, on my blog.
>
> with best wishes
>
> Jonathan
>
> email: jfine2358 at gmail.com
> blog: https://jfine2358.github.io/
>
> -- BEGIN --
>
> SUPPORTING STATEMENT FOR JONATHAN FINE'S AGM MOTION
>
> Dear UK TUG member
>
> The world has changed since our last AGM. I hope that you, your friends
> and family are all safe and well. I hope that whatever happens, you're able
> to make the best of what there is.
>
> I am, contrary to the committee's request, submitting a motion to the AGM
> (see below). I do this to encourage the officers to address certain matters
> in their reports, and also to bring these same matters to your attention.
> The motion simply notes some statements.
>
> The committee, and indeed all of us, are due latitude for the difficult
> conditions that existed since say March this year. For events prior to
> March (see (1) to (9) below) a higher standard holds.
>
> The day after the 2019 AGM, I committed 25 to 50 hours over 12 weeks to
> promote and support TeX in the UK. I made some good progress (see my blog).
> I asked the committee to circulate information about this to all members.
> For this see (4) to (6). The first clear positive response I received was
> in June, see (17). By this time my 12 weeks was over, and I'd moved on to
> other things.
>
> I now repeat my commitment. In addition to 25 to 50 hours, I'll be
> available via Zoom from 6:30 to 7:00pm every Thursday evening for the next
> 12 weeks (with a break for Christmas). Please email me for the Zoom link
> and password.
> email: jfine2358 at gmail.com
> blog: https://jfine2358.github.io/
>
> Since March this year, I've attended perhaps 30 online maths and physics
> talks. I'm personally very interested in how people adapt to giving and
> receiving talks in the online Zoom environment. There are many problems and
> opportunities here.
>
> I look forward to reading the officer's reports. Any parts of my motion
> that then become redundant I'll most happily withdraw.
>
> with best regards
>
> Jonathan Fine
>
> AGM MOTION
>
> This meeting notes:
>
> (1) In the 2019 election for Chair, Joseph Wright (JW) allowed Jay Hammond
> (JH) to submit his supporting statement 3 days after the close of
> nominations.
> (2) JW did not inform the other candidate Jonathan Fine (JF) of this
> extension.
> (3) At the 2019 AGM, David Carlisle's (DC) motion to dissolve UK TUG and
> distribute its assets was defeated 20 to 9 (with 7 abstentions).
>
> (4) The day after the 2019 AGM, JF asked that the committee send a message
> to all members (see also (17)).
> (5) This message stated the JF committed to spending 2 to 4 hours a week
> for the next 12 weeks promoting and supporting the use of TeX in the UK.
> (6) One outcome of this work, on New Year's day, was a prototype LaTeX
> typing tutor (see also (16)).
> URL:  https://jfine2358.github.io/post/2020/01/01/latex-type-tutor/
>
> (7) Arthur Reutenauer (AT) is both a UK TUG committee member, and a TUG
> Board member.
> (8) In February 2020, AT moved a committee motion that there be a special
> general meeting, to consider motions that would dissolve UK TUG and donate
> half its funds to TUG.
>
> (9) In February 2020, JW wrote a project funding request for between
> £4,000 and £6,000.
> (10) The first commit to this project was in March 2020.
> (11) In March 2020, the TUG Board agreed to donate up to $2,000 to this
> project.
> (12) In June 2020, the committee passed JH's motion to donate up to £6,000
> to JW's project.
> (13) This £6,000 is about half of all our funds at that time.
> (14) The total $2,000 + £6,000 is about £7,600, roughly twice the lower
> estimate of £4,000.
> (15) JW and DC are major developers of this project
> https://www.learnlatex.org/
>
> (16) There's significant overlap between JW's project and JF's project.
> (17) In June 2020, JH and JW wrote to JF that in general any TeX-related
> posts by members sent to 'announce' would be sent on to all members (see
> also (4)).
> (18) JF did not send any such post to 'announce'.
>
> (19) In June 2020, TUG announced that the TUG 2020 conference would
> happen, as a free online event.
> (20)The committee did not tell members about the free TUG 2020 event.
> (21) Nothing has been added to our website http://uk.tug.org/ since the
> 2019 AGM.
>
> (22) JF is again this year committing 2 to 4 hours a week for the next 12
> weeks, promoting and supporting TeX in the UK, and this time including
> being available on Zoom.
>
> -- END --
>
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