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Thanks! Great to know there is an expert next door; I guess that
is the way it always works at Berkeley :) Let's see what the
publisher comes back with and then I will contact you. I'm out of
the office for the next 1+ weeks.<br>
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-sanjay
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, in general, the way style files are written
they tend to be complete and call for way more fonts then would
end up being used in the book.
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<div>Asking for everything they have would be one of the best
ways to proceed, but be aware that if this is from Y&Y
TeX, as I believe, chances are he may not have much more.</div>
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<div>If you want me to look at the files with you, give me a
howl, I am in the next building over (Evans)...though not
today, next week.</div>
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PM Sanjay Govindjee <<a href="mailto:s_g@berkeley.edu"
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<div> Thanks for the advice. I started by replacing these
fonts with ones that I thought matched to some degree the
original intent, say, times, helvetica, etc. However as I
got into it, I realized that the style files were grabbing
an untold number of hard to decipher fonts -- though google
is pretty helpful.<br>
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I think I am going to go back to the publisher and ask them
to run the compile of the book and send a zip of the
complete run, log files and all. At that point I can look
in the log files and I can ask them details of their
configuration.<br>
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Thanks for trying to help me out.<br>
-sanjay
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<div>Ok, thanks. Is there anything I can extract
from the files to give better hints to you? </div>
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<div>Producing an MWE (minimal working example) that
shows the problem would be nice, but this could be
hard if you are starting from a "book" that has its
own style files, etc ...</div>
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<div>Perhaps also there are some good questions
that I can ask the publisher about the files?</div>
<div>-sanjay</div>
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<div>Having a "complete" set of files, that is also
including LOG-files is a must. From the log-file we
would be able to tell what system is it and possibly
how hard it would be to run it inside a modern
TeXLive system. Make sure you ask them for the
complete-original set of files... even the dates on
these files can help finding out what is the system
they run and what will take to update it. It is a
bit of forensics...</div>
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<div>Another thing you can do, it to replace these
fonts that are being problematic, in this case</div>
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<div> TIB.PFB</div>
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<div>with something trivial (and more modern, and
available) just to make it process, and then later
replace it back with something that can really
replace it. I think the names TIR, TII, TIB, ...
stand for Times-Roman, Italic, Bold, Bold-Italic,
etc ... so it won't be hard to find something modern
to replace it.</div>
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<div>These names were used by ATM Fonts management and
it is old tech and hard to mimic in these days
TeXLive.</div>
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<div>The sources though should be good and very
usable.</div>
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<div>Paulo Ney</div>
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2022 at 7:31 PM Paulo Ney de Souza <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Very hard to even get started
with, Sanjay, especially without looking at
the files in more detail. Several of the fonts
listed above are proprietary, which makes it
even harder to deal with.
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<div>Some of these font names remind me of the
Y&Y TeX system of a few years back. It
would be nice to look at the original "log"
file to find out where it was processed in
order to plan a structure to deal with.
Installing the fonts in a new system is very
easy -- via XeTeX, and that may be a path to
solve this problem.</div>
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27, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sanjay Govindjee <<a
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working on a book and the publisher has sent
me the prior edition's <br>
files. I am trying to get the files to
compile using latex from the <br>
texlive installation on my Mac but am
running into trouble with how to <br>
deal with the fonts since they appear not to
be where latex wants them <br>
or there are additional problems.<br>
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One folder from the publisher contains font
files as follows:<br>
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HVB_____.PFB HV______.PFB
ITC-OWBK.FNT MTEX.PFM MTMI.PFM <br>
MTMIB.PFM MTSYN.PFM OWBI____.PFM
OWB_____.PFM Offici-B.fnt <br>
TIBI____.PFM TIB_____.PFM TII_____.PFM
TIR_____.PFM <br>
ZD______.PFM timesbd.ttf<br>
HVB_____.PFM HV______.PFM MTEX.PFB
MTMI.PFB MTMIB.PFB <br>
MTSYN.PFB OWBI____.PFB OWB_____.PFB
Offic-BI.fnt <br>
TIBI____.PFB TIB_____.PFB
TII_____.PFB TIR_____.PFB <br>
ZD______.PFB times.ttf<br>
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and some of these appear to be loaded in the
style files:<br>
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Kumba_symbols.tex:\font\rrmu=mtgu at 10pt<br>
P04_Zienk.sty:\font\tmb=tib at 15pt<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\chapheadfont=TGB2 at
12pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:%\font\chapfont=TGL at 22pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\authorfont=TGB at 14pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\affilfont=TGO at 10pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tocfont=TGB at 8pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\itemheadfont=TGB at
10pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\zapfont=ZD at 2.75pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabfootfont=HVO at
7.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabentriesfont=HV at
8.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadfont=HVB at
8.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolheadsupfont=HVO at
5.7pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\tabcolsubheadfont=HVBO
at 8.5pt%<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\titgr=hvmbi at 20pt<br>
P04_Zienk.tex:\font\higr=hvmbi at 13pt<br>
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when I try to run latex it fails at the load
of \font\tmb=tib as latex <br>
tries to run 'mktextfm tib' and then
complains " I can't find file `tib' <br>
". Any help on pointer on how to get things
running (even minimally) <br>
would be appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
<br>
-sanjay<br>
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