FWD: Copy/Paste into Corel

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Hi Michael,

I decided to forward your email of question and problems so that we could have a lot of input to help resolve your problem.  I have not looked at todays mail in techsupport so I have no idea if your problem has been solved.

So here is the input from the author of Y&Y TeX Systems.

Regards,
Blenda Horn.




At 2003-10-29  11:55, you wrote:

>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Michael Zedler <zedler at ei.tum.de>
>Reply-To: Techsupport at yandy.com
>Date:  Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:45:08 +0100

Sorry to hear about your problems.  For suggested solutions see end.

>I just ordered Y&Y-TeX in order to easily copy and paste formulae into
>Powerpoint-presentations. Here, I've got a little problem:

>1) The Slides are not for me, they need to work on _any_ computer, both
>PC and Mac (my bosses computer) -> no special fonts may be installed on
>the system (it must work on a plain Mac/PC)

Well, that is not how PowerPoint works.  It does not "embed" things like fonts,
instead referring to them by name so the operating system can find them.
The one widely used distributable format that does embed fonts and images is
crobat PDF.

>2) The Slides need to remain editable -> no conversion to pdf possible, either

(1) you can't edit the typeset math in PowerPoint since only TeX knows how
to properly typeset math.
2) You *can* edit material in Acrobat (the full product rather than the
free Reader).
(3) If you have to go back to TeX source at any point, no editing of any
final product will
do  any good since it can't be "decompiled" to produce modified TeX code.

>I thought of two solutions:
>1) Use the pack&go feature or Powerpoint -> not possible, because only
>ttf can be packed

Maybe MS should change that...

>2) a) Paste the formulae into CorelDraw/Illustrator/Freehand, let them
>be converted to outlines/paths (making them basically line art;
>eliminating references to fonts) and then, b) copy the converted formula
>into Powerpoint -> pasting into the graphics program doesn't work; the
>characters are scattered around -> useless

This is a function of the importing application.
e material on the clipboard is flawless, as you can see in the "clipboard
viewer"
application (e.g. run c:\windows\system32\clipbrd.exe )
or by pasting the material e.g. into MS Word.
Unfortunately, because of faulty conversion to internal representation
in some graphics applications, such as Adobe Illustrator, material from the
clipboard gets rescaled and becomes unreadable. However, in the past
Corel Draw did this correctly, only Illustrator messed it up.  Did you try it?

>3) Make screenshots from the pdf that contains the formulae -> my boss
>can move them around and add text -> works, but quite clumsy, in
>particular if he decides to magnify a formula. (And I don't need Y&Y then)

What application does your boss intend to use to edit?
Presumably if the whole job is done in TeX you can't do anything
with editing in any other application in any case.  Whatever
editing happens will have to be repeated by hand in the original
TeX code. Seems that that is the *real* problem.

It seems infinitely easier to install fonts on your boss's computer so
he/she can edit directly.  For disgtribution, you can then package up
the whole thing in a portable way when editing has finished by turning
it into Acrobat PDF.

Note that there is *NO* way of displaying hairy math in PowerPoint
without installing fonts, or patching in little images.  None of the
fonts commonly available in windows are sufficient for handling math.
This is, of course, not a problem that has anything to do with the TeX system.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Support at yandy.com



>Anybody any idea?
>Thanks in advance,
>Michael
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>Dipl. Ing. Michael Zedler
>Lehrstuhl für Hochfrequenztechnik, TU München
>Arcisstr. 21, 80333 München
>Tel.: +49-289-23367
>Mail: zedler at ei.tum.de
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