Do we need ATM Deluxe under WinXP?

Mike Prager Mike.Prager at noaa.gov
Fri Oct 17 08:38:50 CEST 2003


At 08:18 AM 10/17/2003, you wrote:
>   Does ATM Deluxe 4.0 work with Windows XP, or do I need to buy version
>4.1?
>  Peter Scott

My recollection from Adobe's Web site (*** which I advise you to consult
****) is that 4.1 is needed.  I seem to remember buying an update (4.0 ->
4.1) at reduced cost, some years ago.

>On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Mike Prager wrote:
>
> > I'd like to add to Christina's remarks.
> >
> > At 02:49 PM 10/16/2003, Christina Thiele wrote:
> >
> > >I know what you mean about the confusion! But it _seems_ to me that
> > >the comments [on ATM Deluxe under XP] have settled down to separating out
> > >the two activities of
> > >installation and usage.
> >
> > I don't entirely agree, as should be clear from my further comments.
> >
> > >   a. NO ATM for installation -- or rather, make sure that ATM has been
> > >      turned off. The XP installation instructions for fonts are what
> > >      you use -- Win2000 and XP have a built-in rasteriser (I just
> > >      repeat the stuff I read! I don't actually know/understand that
> > >      the heck this `rasteriser' is doing ;-)). But it's involved in
> > >      sending the font files to the right places, and making sure that
> > >      everything is properly `registered'.
> >
> > At our laboratory, the two Y&Y users have found that ATM Deluxe can be used
> > successfully to install fonts under Windows XP, as Adobe says. That is true
> > whether the fonts are used by Y&Y or not. Indeed, we've had better results
> > with ATM installed than with it not installed. THERE IS A PATCH ON THE
> > ADOBE WEB SITE THAT SHOULD BE INSTALLED, ALSO.
> >
> > Whether ATM Deluxe is used or not, the rasterization (conversion of a
> > vector font into a displayable image) is done by Windows XP itself, NOT by
> > ATM. The opposite was the case under, e.g., Windows NT4 or Windows 95.
> >
> > >   b. ATM Deluxe allows you to active/deactivate fonts for specific
> > >      applications (e.g., Y&YTeX), and thus sidesteps the memory
> > >      issues. Or so it seems from posts to techsupport
> >
> > Yes, it can allow fonts (or groups of fonts) to be activated and
> > deactivated.  That can be very useful if you own many fonts but don't use
> > most of them frequently.  I leave the Lucida, CM, and MathTime sets
> > activated all the time, along with about 200 other TrueType and Type 1
> > fonts, without noticeable memory issues. This is on a machine with 512Mb of
> > RAM. Windows XP has pretty good memory management.
> >
> > What Christina did not mention is that there is a THIRD aspect of font
> > usage in Y&Y TeX:  the ability of all components of Y&Y TeX (including
> > DVIWindo and DVIPSONE) to find (and thus use) the installed fonts.  Our two
> > users of Y&Y TeX (I am one of them) have NOT been successful at getting
> > that to happen under Windows XP unless ATM Deluxe was used to install (and
> > thus manage) the fonts.  Am I saying it can't be done?  No!  But I am
> > saying that despite a lot of fiddling, uninstalling, reinstalling, etc., we
> > were unable to get it to work without ATM.  After we installed ATM Deluxe
> > and then Y&Y, everything worked perfectly.  So I would consider purchase of
> > ATM Deluxe a worthwhile investment for someone installing Y&Y on
> Windows XP.
> >
> > I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who has got it to work without
> > using ATM.  Did you do anything special?
> >
> > ...Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Prager, Ph.D.
> > NOAA Beaufort Laboratory
> > Beaufort, North Carolina  28516
> > http://shrimp.ccfhrb.noaa.gov/~mprager/
> >
> > NOTE: Opinions expressed are personal, not official.  No government
> > endorsement of
> > any product is expressed or implied.
> >
> >
>
>
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Michael Prager, Ph.D.                <Mike.Prager at noaa.gov>
NOAA Beaufort Laboratory
Beaufort, North Carolina  28516
http://shrimp.ccfhrb.noaa.gov/~mprager/

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