FW: FW: DVIWindo Windows 2000 Problem (fwd) [Andreas Antoniou]

[Y&Y. Inc.]

Christina, Robin, Mimi and Barbara,

Here is Berthold's reply regarding the Andreas Antoniou
<aantoniou at shaw.ca> problem.

Bl.

-----Original Message-----
From: Berthold K.P. Horn [mailto:bkph at ai.mit.edu]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:54 PM
To: Y&Y. Inc.
Subject: Re: FW: DVIWindo Windows 2000 Problem (fwd) [Andreas Antoniou]


I haven't read it all, but it seems a standard answer is in order:

(1) Do *NOT* install ATM 4.0 for Windows NT in Windows 2000 or Windows
XP.
It will mess up font handling --- and may be very hard to recover from.

(2) When experiencing font problems in Windows 2000 or Windows XP
it may well be worth installing ATM 4.1 --- ATM 4.1 Lite is available
for free download from Adobe

http://www.adobe.com/products/atmlight/main.html

This shouldn't be necessary, but may be a convenience for
users accustomed to installing fonts using ATM (In some cases
it may also disentangle messed up states of the font system).

(3) It should be possible to install the fonts properly without ATM
using either the item on the pop-up menu from the CD --- or
using "Start > Settings > Control Panel > Fonts" and then
"File > Install Fonts" (It is best to just let it copy the files to
the "fonts" folder under the "windows" folder).

(4) You *cannot* "install" fonts by copying them to some random folder
(such as c:\psfonts).  Key to proper font installation is the creation
of
appropriate entries in the registry.  This happens when you (i) use the
installation procedure on the CD, or (ii) when you use the above
mentioned "Start > Settings > Control Panel > Fonts" etc. method
or (iii) if you use ATM 4.1

(5) Be careful with the font folder. It is a so-called active folder.
For example,
when you look at it from say "My Computer" you do *not* see what files
are in it --- instead you see information constructed from the registry.
Again: do not try and manipulate this folder -- or font files ---
directly.
Always use proper installation procedures (of which three alternatives
are outlined above).

At 15:37 3/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:


Hi B,

It seems we all have a problem that we cannot solve and need your input.
This problem seems to be cropping up an a regular basis.  If you can
give Christina and Robin some reasons why Andreas Antoniou
<aantoniou at shaw.ca> is having this problem, would be great.  They can
then help some of the others who have a similar problem.

Thank B,

B.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Techsupport-owner at yandy.com
> [mailto:Techsupport-owner at yandy.com] On Behalf Of Christina Thiele
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:32 PM
> To: techsupport
> Subject: DVIWindo Windows 2000 Problem (fwd) [Andreas Antoniou]
>
>
> Guys, I'm forwarding Andreas' queries here.
>
> Blenda, I wonder if it would be at all possible to pass this
> one along to Berthold. This guy has been sooooo massively
> patient out there on the west coast. He's sent lots of
> messages trying to provide useful info (not always offering
> it up right away but still ... a pretty patient user). And
> I'm just not up to snuff on this stuff.
>
> I of course have all the previous mail and would be more than
> happy to ball it all up if Berthold wanted to see the past
> history -- and mis-steps.
>
> But I really think I need help. And because he really does
> want to keep plugging away at Y&YTeX because he really likes
> and needs some of its features ... can we try Berthold's
> patience one more time?
>
> Ch.
>
> ==================
>
> Forwarded message:
> >

> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:00:12 -0800
> > From: Andreas Antoniou <aantoniou at shaw.ca>
> > Subject: DVIWindo Windows 2000 Problem
> > To: Christina Thiele <cthiele at ccs.carleton.ca>
> >
> > Christina,
> >
> > Further to my previous email,  I have found out one more thing that could
> > provide an answer to my curious problem.  Windows 2000 seems to be unable
> > to handle fonts that are outside folder \WINNT\Fonts!  That is, any font
> > files in file C:\psfonts do not seem to be interpreted as fonts.  Windows
> > 98 handles these font files with the help of ATM.
> >
> > I have tried putting a pfb font file in \WINNT\Fonts but Windows 2000 will
> > not accept such files.  It considers them as corrupt font files!
> >
> > Now here is the $60,000 question.  Your documentation seems to advise
> > against installing ATM 4.0 on a Windows 2000 machine.
> Would it cause a
> > problem if I were to install ATM 4.0 anyway?  There is a chance that it
> > could solve the problem.   As I said earlier in an email, I have not
> > installed ATM on this machine.
> >
> > Can you address this question?  Or is there anybody else in  your
> > company
> > who is familiar with running your software on Windows 2000 machines?
> >
> > As I said, I could get by with MikTex but to numerous font facilities
> > offered by your DVIwindo previewer are very useful in my book writing
> > effort, even outside TeX/Latex.   I am using some unusual fonts with
> > Illustrator 10 and CorelDraw 10 and I sometimes need to know the characters
> > of a font and their decimal values.  The facility Show Font offered by
> > DVIwindo is most valuable.
> >
> > I know you are quite busy with other matters but could you answer at
> > least
> > this question?
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > ==================Previous Email==============================
> > Christina:
> >
> > I  was comparing my laptop version of the Y&Y TeX System  to the
> > Windows
> > 2000 version and I discovered an important difference between the two that
> > might help you help me get this program to run!
> >
> > I believe Windows 2000 CANNOT find the Type 1 fonts for some reason.
> > I am
> > saying this because NONE of the Type 1 fonts is accessible
> through the command
> >
> >                    Fonts > Show font
> >
> > In other words the pop-up window titled Font does not show any of the
> > Type
> > 1 fonts not even one.  Note that  I have entered the path C:\psfonts in
> > DVIWindo.ini and furthermore folder C:\psfonts contains a copy of all the
> > pfb files (copied form the CD ROM).
> >
> > On my laptop the Type 1 fonts in C:\psfonts are all accessible.
> >
> > Can you help?
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> >
> > Andreas
> >