[UK-TUG] Obtaining a clear outcome from the SGM

[Jay Hammond]

I think this is a very clear explanation of how ordering affects voting 
patterns.

under this approach, members need to only vote once for continue, but 
twice to achieve a dissolve outcome.

Jay


On 15/10/2021 09:56, Jonathan Fine wrote:
> Dear Member
>
> SUMMARY: How can we achieving a clear decision on continuation and 
> dissolution.
>
> ASIDE: I'm happy for this discussion to be moved to some other place, 
> provided it is publicly viewable.
>
> My goal is to develop a process for the SGM that is harmonious and 
> which achieves a clear outcome. This might be dull reading unless 
> you're a mover of a motion or the Secretary. Please forgive me if in 
> seeking clarity I lose concision. I welcome Joseph's opinion on these 
> matters.
>
> Here's a summary of the six motions, which is adequate for my present 
> purpose.
>
> DS1: Dissolve and distribute to TUG and DANTE.
> HV1: Continue and draft constitution and distribute to TUG and DANTE.
> JH1: Dissolve.
> JF1: If dissolve, distribute by individually expressed wishes.
> JF2: [Continue and] SGM in 2022.
> JF3: Dissolve.
>
> The SGM voting for both continuation and dissolution is not a clear 
> outcome. How can we avoid that, and with the most harmony. There are 3 
> dissolve motions, 2 continue motions and 1 other (which I will ignore 
> for now).
>
> I believe that in an in-person meeting the process used would be:
> a) choose a continue motion
> b) vote on the continue motion
>
> If the chosen "continue" motion passes, then all the 
> "dissolve" motions fall. The SGM has chosen to continue.
>
> If the chosen "continue" motion falls then I believe the process would be:
> c) choose a dissolve motion
> d) vote on the dissolve motion
>
> If the chosen "dissolve" motion passes then UK TUG will be dissolved. 
> If the "dissolve" motion falls then the SGM will have taken no 
> decision on continuation or dissolution, and so UK TUG continues.
>
> Traditionally the choosing of the "continue" and if needed "dissolve" 
> motions is done in a way that maximises support for the outcome. This 
> is similar to transferable votes in elections.
>
> I think this is enough for now. I hope Joseph can give some insight 
> into the voting procedure for the SGM.
>
> Thank you for getting to the end.
>
> best wishes
>
> Jonathan
>
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