[omega] Fwd: typesetting biblical hebrew with makor and a protext install
sam sayag
samuelsayag at gmail.com
Fri Jan 25 12:07:58 CET 2008
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From: sam sayag <samuelsayag at gmail.com>
Date: 25 janv. 2008 12:07
Subject: Re: [omega] typesetting biblical hebrew with makor and a protext
install
To: Olaf Märker <okax at gmx.de>
Thanks for your advice. I realised odvips wasn't in the Miktex directory. I
don't know why but I asked them the question (on the miktex mailling list).
Now wait and see. I think Miktex is smart enough to include something
equivalent, with tex live they are supposed to be a complete/serious
distributions among the most used (at list in my country).
Regards
2008/1/25, Olaf Märker <okax at gmx.de>:
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> Hello Samuel,
>
> to use your dvi output in any viewer you can covert it with odvicopy,
> which should be included in your distribution. That will expand any
> references to virtual omega fonts to base fonts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Olaf
>
> sam sayag schrieb:
> > Hi I thank you very much for your advices,
> >
> > I've seen XeTeX indeed while I was browsing the web and I'll consider
> > that solution if there's no better. I worked on it this afternoon and
> > solve my problem on omega and lambda (I just made a few try with options
> > with linux's man omega/lambda command) I've still that problem of the
> > font not found in dvi output ... but I produce regular .pdf/.ps with my
> > first shalom aholam exemple. I'm very exited about it.
> >
> > I visited your SIL site wich i'll be interesed in but i feel i could
> > have the same problem with your solution.
> >
> > Obviously, I produce regular DVI but my Yap (dvi viewer) program cannot
> > find this ezra font. I think there is something like a font map to
> > udpdate maybe that is used by yap but i'm so knew to TeX systems that
> > I'm still wondering what is it, where in the TDS i can find it and how
> > to modify.
> >
> > Thanks to spend time to answer
> >
> > 2008/1/24, Jonathan Kew <jonathan_kew at sil.org
> > <mailto:jonathan_kew at sil.org>>:
> >
> > Hello Samuel,
> >
> > This is not a direct answer to your Omega questions, but you could
> > consider the alternative Unicode-enabled TeX extension, XeTeX. I am
> > attaching a basic XeTeX sample file, and the corresponding PDF
> > output, to illustrate the capabilities. It is also possible to use
> > Hebrew in conjuction with LaTeX packages, etc., for more advanced
> > document structure and formatting; there is an active mailing list
> > (see http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/XeTeX) where you will find
> other
> > users interested in these issues.
> >
> > XeTeX is included with MikTeX 2.7 and other recent TeX
> distributions,
> > and requires very little effort to set up; to process the attached
> > sample, all you need is the "Ezra SIL" OpenType font installed in
> > your Windows Fonts folder. (It would also work with other fonts such
> > as SBL Hebrew just by changing the name in the \font declaration.)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 24 Jan 2008, at 9:14 am, sam sayag wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > I'm Samuel, I'm french (so please forgive my english faults). I'm
> > > new to the world of TeX, LaTeX and of course Omega too.
> > > I need (in fact my sister need but i'll do the job for her) to
> > > typeset biblical hebrew (for research paper needs) with all the
> > > strange stuff around the letters : cantilation, vocalisation and
> so
> > > on.
> > > So I brought together my courage and decide to dive in the world
> of
> > > TeX. I discover CTAN and in the hebrew section an interesting
> > > package called Makor that let you typeset at least the bible if
> you
> > > had the courage...
> > > I installed quite easily ProTeXt (MikTeX, TeXniccenter,
> ghostscript/
> > > view...) , tested it with french basic document but things got
> > > complex when I tried to obtain my first "hello world" example in
> > > biblical hebrew. I read the manual and it is said that Makor use
> > > Omega/TeX. I try to read a few thing about Omega but I cannot find
> > > any document saying (for a newcomer) how to use it in the context
> > > of a ProTeX or TeXLive basic installation and how these progamms
> > > (it seems omega and lambda) interact with TeX when I push the Ctrl
> > > +F7 button on TeXnicenter the moment I compile.
> > >
> > > first question : Did I miss something on the internet ? Do I have
> > > to read something before bothering people on this list ? Is there
> a
> > > tutorial somewhere ?
> > >
> > > Then the guy (Alan Hoenig) says in the Makor documentation that
> you
> > > have to :
> > >
> > > "place psfonts.mkr2 into your file psfonts.map"
> > >
> > > second question : how do i do this with MikTeX ? In the settings
> I
> > > made miktex point on the Makor tree (it is suppose to work because
> > > makor tree respect the TDS I read and trust) and then refresh the
> > > FNDB (file name data base ?). I even found the psfonts.map in my
> > > windows settings (C:\Documents and Settings\sayag_s\Local Settings
> > > \Application Data\MiKTeX\2.7\dvips\config) but couldn't see the
> > > mapping of the new fonts (maybe it is normal i don't know ...).
> > >
> > > and then run in commands :
> > >
> > > C:\> omega mkrotest
> > > C:\> lambda mkrltest
> > >
> > > these commands did produce the DVI I was waiting for (i still do
> > > not understand what is the difference between the omega and lambda
> > > and why i need two command to produce two docs even if i need one
> > > at the end) but then another problem rose :
> > >
> > > the YAP.exe wich is the DVI viewer cannot find this ezra fonts but
> > > I noticed he could find the ezra2 font at the right place. It is
> > > strange because both the font should be at the same place (is it a
> > > makor bug).
> > >
> > > after three days trying this and that I'm just a bit discouraged
> > > that's why I ask for help (the french tex list GUTemberg has no
> > > idea about how to solve the probleme and a few forum gave me the
> > > same answer : you need somebody that know something about
> Omega...)
> > >
> > > Thank (a lot) by advance if somebody can help
> > > (I promise I'll make a tutorial for newbies once the whole thing
> is
> > > finished :))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Samuel SAYAG
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > Samuel SAYAG
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Samuel SAYAG
1, rue du général Larminat
94000 Creteil
09 54 39 01 90
06 26 17 13 84
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Samuel SAYAG
1, rue du général Larminat
94000 Creteil
09 54 39 01 90
06 26 17 13 84
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