<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br><span class="gmail_quote">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">sam sayag</b> <<a href="mailto:samuelsayag@gmail.com">samuelsayag@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: 25 janv. 2008 12:07<br>
Subject: Re: [omega] typesetting biblical hebrew with makor and a protext install<br>To: Olaf Märker <<a href="mailto:okax@gmx.de">okax@gmx.de</a>><br><br></span>
<div>Thanks for your advice. I realised odvips wasn't in the Miktex directory. I don't know why but I asked them the question (on the miktex mailling list). </div>
<div>Now wait and see. I think Miktex is smart enough to include something equivalent, with tex live they are supposed to be a complete/serious distributions among the most used (at list in my country).</div>
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<div>Regards<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/1/25, Olaf Märker <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:okax@gmx.de" target="_blank">okax@gmx.de</a>>:</span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Hello Samuel,<br><br>to use your dvi output in any viewer you can covert it with odvicopy,<br>
which should be included in your distribution. That will expand any<br>references to virtual omega fonts to base fonts.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Olaf<br><br>sam sayag schrieb:<br>> Hi I thank you very much for your advices,<br>
><br>> I've seen XeTeX indeed while I was browsing the web and I'll consider<br>> that solution if there's no better. I worked on it this afternoon and<br>> solve my problem on omega and lambda (I just made a few try with options<br>
> with linux's man omega/lambda command) I've still that problem of the<br>> font not found in dvi output ... but I produce regular .pdf/.ps with my<br>> first shalom aholam exemple. I'm very exited about it.<br>
><br>> I visited your SIL site wich i'll be interesed in but i feel i could<br>> have the same problem with your solution.<br>><br>> Obviously, I produce regular DVI but my Yap (dvi viewer) program cannot<br>
> find this ezra font. I think there is something like a font map to<br>> udpdate maybe that is used by yap but i'm so knew to TeX systems that<br>> I'm still wondering what is it, where in the TDS i can find it and how<br>
> to modify.<br>><br>> Thanks to spend time to answer<br>><br>> 2008/1/24, Jonathan Kew <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jonathan_kew@sil.org" target="_blank">jonathan_kew@sil.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jonathan_kew@sil.org" target="_blank">jonathan_kew@sil.org</a>>>:<br>><br>> Hello Samuel,<br>><br>> This is not a direct answer to your Omega questions, but you could<br>
> consider the alternative Unicode-enabled TeX extension, XeTeX. I am<br>> attaching a basic XeTeX sample file, and the corresponding PDF<br>> output, to illustrate the capabilities. It is also possible to use<br>
> Hebrew in conjuction with LaTeX packages, etc., for more advanced<br>> document structure and formatting; there is an active mailing list<br>> (see <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/XeTeX" target="_blank">http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/XeTeX</a>) where you will find other<br>
> users interested in these issues.<br>><br>> XeTeX is included with MikTeX 2.7 and other recent TeX distributions,<br>> and requires very little effort to set up; to process the attached<br>> sample, all you need is the "Ezra SIL" OpenType font installed in<br>
> your Windows Fonts folder. (It would also work with other fonts such<br>> as SBL Hebrew just by changing the name in the \font declaration.)<br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>> Jonathan<br>><br>
><br>><br>><br>> On 24 Jan 2008, at 9:14 am, sam sayag wrote:<br>><br>> > Hello everybody,<br>> ><br>> > I'm Samuel, I'm french (so please forgive my english faults). I'm<br>
> > new to the world of TeX, LaTeX and of course Omega too.<br>> > I need (in fact my sister need but i'll do the job for her) to<br>> > typeset biblical hebrew (for research paper needs) with all the<br>
> > strange stuff around the letters : cantilation, vocalisation and so<br>> > on.<br>> > So I brought together my courage and decide to dive in the world of<br>> > TeX. I discover CTAN and in the hebrew section an interesting<br>
> > package called Makor that let you typeset at least the bible if you<br>> > had the courage...<br>> > I installed quite easily ProTeXt (MikTeX, TeXniccenter, ghostscript/<br>> > view...) , tested it with french basic document but things got<br>
> > complex when I tried to obtain my first "hello world" example in<br>> > biblical hebrew. I read the manual and it is said that Makor use<br>> > Omega/TeX. I try to read a few thing about Omega but I cannot find<br>
> > any document saying (for a newcomer) how to use it in the context<br>> > of a ProTeX or TeXLive basic installation and how these progamms<br>> > (it seems omega and lambda) interact with TeX when I push the Ctrl<br>
> > +F7 button on TeXnicenter the moment I compile.<br>> ><br>> > first question : Did I miss something on the internet ? Do I have<br>> > to read something before bothering people on this list ? Is there a<br>
> > tutorial somewhere ?<br>> ><br>> > Then the guy (Alan Hoenig) says in the Makor documentation that you<br>> > have to :<br>> ><br>> > "place psfonts.mkr2 into your file psfonts.map"<br>
> ><br>> > second question : how do i do this with MikTeX ? In the settings I<br>> > made miktex point on the Makor tree (it is suppose to work because<br>> > makor tree respect the TDS I read and trust) and then refresh the<br>
> > FNDB (file name data base ?). I even found the psfonts.map in my<br>> > windows settings (C:\Documents and Settings\sayag_s\Local Settings<br>> > \Application Data\MiKTeX\2.7\dvips\config) but couldn't see the<br>
> > mapping of the new fonts (maybe it is normal i don't know ...).<br>> ><br>> > and then run in commands :<br>> ><br>> > C:\> omega mkrotest<br>> > C:\> lambda mkrltest<br>
> ><br>> > these commands did produce the DVI I was waiting for (i still do<br>> > not understand what is the difference between the omega and lambda<br>> > and why i need two command to produce two docs even if i need one<br>
> > at the end) but then another problem rose :<br>> ><br>> > the YAP.exe wich is the DVI viewer cannot find this ezra fonts but<br>> > I noticed he could find the ezra2 font at the right place. It is<br>
> > strange because both the font should be at the same place (is it a<br>> > makor bug).<br>> ><br>> > after three days trying this and that I'm just a bit discouraged<br>> > that's why I ask for help (the french tex list GUTemberg has no<br>
> > idea about how to solve the probleme and a few forum gave me the<br>> > same answer : you need somebody that know something about Omega...)<br>> ><br>> > Thank (a lot) by advance if somebody can help<br>
> > (I promise I'll make a tutorial for newbies once the whole thing is<br>> > finished :))<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > Samuel SAYAG<br>> ><br>
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