[luatex] Package luamplib

Zvi Gilboa zg7s at eservices.virginia.edu
Fri Jul 20 02:25:08 CEST 2012


Thanks, Reinhard, for the reminder that TeX is only one of thousands of 
packages!
Admittedly, I have completely forgotten about that:)

Cheers,
Zvi






On 07/19/2012 06:40 PM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote:
> On 2012-07-19 at 16:07:15 -0400, Zvi Gilboa wrote:
>
>   > This is indeed embarrassing, however in my humble opinion, TeXLive
>   > should not be shipping with Ubuntu at all, as it is the source of many
>   > potential disasters.  One trivial example: suppose that you use a
>   > different TeX distribution, or simply opt for a "manual" installation of
>   > (the current version of) TeXLive, as many people (myself included)do.
>   > You might then decide to install a random TeX-related package -- be it
>   > an editor, a font, or anything else for that matter -- just to realize
>   > that Ubuntu thinks it should now install the whole TeX-system shebang
>   > for you...
>
> Sorry, I disagree.  TeX Live is only one of tens of thousands of
> packages provided by Linux distributions.  You installed TeX Live
> yourself probably because you need new features.  But for the majority
> of users TeX is only one program of many and the easiest way to
> acquire it is to install what the Linux distribution provides.
>
> The dependency problems you described exist with many other programs
> too.  Suppose you have CUPS installed but want to maintain ghostscript
> yourself.  I think that Linux distributors should provide everything
> they can maintain.
>
> TeX Live doesn't interfere with another release installed somewhere
> else on a particular system.  Unless disk space is a severe problem,
> it doesn't matter very much what the package manager pulls in.
>
> BTW, I'm using Gentoo and CentOS and can't confirm that TeX Live is
> pulled in by the package managers when I install a font, an editor, or
> something alike.  AucTeX might be an exception because it depends on
> both, a text editor and a TeX system.
>
> Regards,
>    Reinhard
>
>
>   > Best regards,
>   > Zvi Gilboa
>   >
>   >
>   > On 07/19/2012 03:59 PM, Dirk Laurie wrote:
>   > > 2012/7/18 Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard.kotucha at web.de>:
>   > >
>   > >> BTW, the problem you encountered seems to be caused by a bug rather
>   > >> than a compatibility problem.  Obviously the comment character was
>   > >> ignored.  However, it's fixed already in newer releases.
>   > >>
>   > >>   > What's the easiest solution, short of "Update your whole
>   > >>   > installation to the latest TeXLive"?
>   > >>
>   > >> Please note that in order to upgrade from TL-2011 to TL-2012 you don't
>   > >> have to install everything from scratch anymore:
>   > >>
>   > >>    http://tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html
>   > >>
>   > >> You could probably install a newer LuaTeX binary into your current
>   > >> installation, but I fear that everything you do beyond the package
>   > >> manager's neck will cause trouble former or later.  In particular,
>   > >> if your system is inconsistent, nobody can reproduce your problems.
>   > >>
>   > > Can you believe it, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released
>   > > April 2012 ships with TeXLive 2009.
>   > >
>   > > Dirk
>   >
>



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