[luatex] Package luamplib
Zvi Gilboa
zg7s at eservices.virginia.edu
Fri Jul 20 02:25:08 CEST 2012
Thanks, Reinhard, for the reminder that TeX is only one of thousands of
packages!
Admittedly, I have completely forgotten about that:)
Cheers,
Zvi
On 07/19/2012 06:40 PM, Reinhard Kotucha wrote:
> On 2012-07-19 at 16:07:15 -0400, Zvi Gilboa wrote:
>
> > This is indeed embarrassing, however in my humble opinion, TeXLive
> > should not be shipping with Ubuntu at all, as it is the source of many
> > potential disasters. One trivial example: suppose that you use a
> > different TeX distribution, or simply opt for a "manual" installation of
> > (the current version of) TeXLive, as many people (myself included)do.
> > You might then decide to install a random TeX-related package -- be it
> > an editor, a font, or anything else for that matter -- just to realize
> > that Ubuntu thinks it should now install the whole TeX-system shebang
> > for you...
>
> Sorry, I disagree. TeX Live is only one of tens of thousands of
> packages provided by Linux distributions. You installed TeX Live
> yourself probably because you need new features. But for the majority
> of users TeX is only one program of many and the easiest way to
> acquire it is to install what the Linux distribution provides.
>
> The dependency problems you described exist with many other programs
> too. Suppose you have CUPS installed but want to maintain ghostscript
> yourself. I think that Linux distributors should provide everything
> they can maintain.
>
> TeX Live doesn't interfere with another release installed somewhere
> else on a particular system. Unless disk space is a severe problem,
> it doesn't matter very much what the package manager pulls in.
>
> BTW, I'm using Gentoo and CentOS and can't confirm that TeX Live is
> pulled in by the package managers when I install a font, an editor, or
> something alike. AucTeX might be an exception because it depends on
> both, a text editor and a TeX system.
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard
>
>
> > Best regards,
> > Zvi Gilboa
> >
> >
> > On 07/19/2012 03:59 PM, Dirk Laurie wrote:
> > > 2012/7/18 Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard.kotucha at web.de>:
> > >
> > >> BTW, the problem you encountered seems to be caused by a bug rather
> > >> than a compatibility problem. Obviously the comment character was
> > >> ignored. However, it's fixed already in newer releases.
> > >>
> > >> > What's the easiest solution, short of "Update your whole
> > >> > installation to the latest TeXLive"?
> > >>
> > >> Please note that in order to upgrade from TL-2011 to TL-2012 you don't
> > >> have to install everything from scratch anymore:
> > >>
> > >> http://tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html
> > >>
> > >> You could probably install a newer LuaTeX binary into your current
> > >> installation, but I fear that everything you do beyond the package
> > >> manager's neck will cause trouble former or later. In particular,
> > >> if your system is inconsistent, nobody can reproduce your problems.
> > >>
> > > Can you believe it, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released
> > > April 2012 ships with TeXLive 2009.
> > >
> > > Dirk
> >
>
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