[luatex] Package luamplib

Reinhard Kotucha reinhard.kotucha at web.de
Fri Jul 20 00:40:06 CEST 2012

On 2012-07-19 at 16:07:15 -0400, Zvi Gilboa wrote:

 > This is indeed embarrassing, however in my humble opinion, TeXLive 
 > should not be shipping with Ubuntu at all, as it is the source of many 
 > potential disasters.  One trivial example: suppose that you use a 
 > different TeX distribution, or simply opt for a "manual" installation of 
 > (the current version of) TeXLive, as many people (myself included)do.  
 > You might then decide to install a random TeX-related package -- be it 
 > an editor, a font, or anything else for that matter -- just to realize 
 > that Ubuntu thinks it should now install the whole TeX-system shebang 
 > for you...

Sorry, I disagree.  TeX Live is only one of tens of thousands of
packages provided by Linux distributions.  You installed TeX Live
yourself probably because you need new features.  But for the majority
of users TeX is only one program of many and the easiest way to
acquire it is to install what the Linux distribution provides.

The dependency problems you described exist with many other programs
too.  Suppose you have CUPS installed but want to maintain ghostscript
yourself.  I think that Linux distributors should provide everything
they can maintain.

TeX Live doesn't interfere with another release installed somewhere
else on a particular system.  Unless disk space is a severe problem,
it doesn't matter very much what the package manager pulls in.

BTW, I'm using Gentoo and CentOS and can't confirm that TeX Live is
pulled in by the package managers when I install a font, an editor, or
something alike.  AucTeX might be an exception because it depends on
both, a text editor and a TeX system.


 > Best regards,
 > Zvi Gilboa
 > On 07/19/2012 03:59 PM, Dirk Laurie wrote:
 > > 2012/7/18 Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard.kotucha at web.de>:
 > >
 > >> BTW, the problem you encountered seems to be caused by a bug rather
 > >> than a compatibility problem.  Obviously the comment character was
 > >> ignored.  However, it's fixed already in newer releases.
 > >>
 > >>   > What's the easiest solution, short of "Update your whole
 > >>   > installation to the latest TeXLive"?
 > >>
 > >> Please note that in order to upgrade from TL-2011 to TL-2012 you don't
 > >> have to install everything from scratch anymore:
 > >>
 > >>    http://tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html
 > >>
 > >> You could probably install a newer LuaTeX binary into your current
 > >> installation, but I fear that everything you do beyond the package
 > >> manager's neck will cause trouble former or later.  In particular,
 > >> if your system is inconsistent, nobody can reproduce your problems.
 > >>
 > > Can you believe it, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released
 > > April 2012 ships with TeXLive 2009.
 > >
 > > Dirk

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