[XeTeX] Res: small caps not searcheable

[David Perry]

I am very eager to get a handle on what's happening here so I understand 
how XeLaTeX and fontspec handle small capitals.

I assumed -- wrongly -- that typing \textsc{} activated the true 
Opentype or AAT small capital feature, if the font contained it and one 
was using fontspec.  I just did a quick test, copying some text from a 
PDF that I made using Linux Libertine (which contains OT smcp features). 
  When I pasted the text into Word I got the PUA smallcaps, not true 
caps (or even lowercase letters).  Flavio's experience with Minio Pro 
(older version that has the PUA assignments) bears this out.  As I think 
about it now, though, it does make sense to me that XeTeX would behave 
this way.

As soon as I can, I will test a XeLaTeX document, using fontspec to 
specifically call OT small caps.  I do not own any of the newer Adobe 
fonts where they have removed the PUA values from the small caps.  Could 
anyone try one of those fonts and let us know what happens?  I'm 
guessing that using \textsc{} won't work at all.

Asking users to search using the "faulty" PUA values is not a realistic 
option--that why we need OT/AAT features.  For that reason I wouldn't 
start messing with cmaps, which are not for the faint of heart.  (I'm 
not sure I agree fonts that use the small cap PUA values are faulty, but 
that's a whole different discussion.)

David

Flavio Costa wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> 
> "In the latter case the letters come from the Basic Latin block of Unicode, in the former they are taken from the PUA, the Private Use Area, where Junicode, Cardo, Caslon ... encode (or save) their real small capitals."
> 
> Do you know why Computer Modern works as expected?
> 
> "If you want to be able to search small capitals, then use only the faulty ones. Or add a CMAP that maps them into the Basic Latin (or some other appropriate) block."
> 
> What do you mean by "use only the faulty ones"? From what I've been reading yesterday, new Adobe font do not encode small caps in the PUA anymore, they make it accessible only via OpenType Layout features. Since Minion Pro have its small caps in the PUA, adding a cmap may be a good option. Unfortunately I don't know how to do it...
> 
> I just found the cmap package:
> http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/cmap/
> 
> However, I'm not sure it works with XeLaTeX, maybe it does by adding a <encoding>.cmap?
> 
> 
> Thanks for the answer,
> 
> Flavio Costa
> 
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