[UK-TUG] How to Vote

[Jay Hammond]

On 03/11/2021 21:05, tonyharkeroxford at gmail.com wrote:
> I'm losing track of what we are supposed to be voting on and to whom we are supposed to be responding.

Hi Tony and other members:

I'm sorry one member is not cooperating . I've done my best to manage 
the meeting. I've amended the subject.

VOTING on MOTIONS is  a few paragraphs down.

You may of course just ignore 'procedural matters'. I gave it that 
subject because I knew it was going to be arcane. It was my hint to you  
to not read it.  I think I can safely interpret Tony's  message 'I just 
want all this to stop' to include a procedural motion.

Everybody else, if you wish, Say YES or NO to  discussing procedures in 
a procedural motion offered by Jonathan Fine. send Y/N to uktug-announce 
with the Subject "Procedural Matters". Before midnight please. You may 
also tell me  on jay at jjnr.uk if you don't want anyone else to know what 
you said.

VOTING ON MOTIONS

I sent the following to Joseph Wright: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk 
as my vote(s)

except that here, you see 'Mu' as the placeholder for my actual vote. I 
replaced "FOR" by "Mu" and I also replaced AGAINST by Mu. I did not abstain.

There are more notes on voting below the sample ballot.

What I sent:

MU    HV1. That UK-TUG continue to function, with the proviso that
       (a) the Committee draft an updated Constitution to better reflect
       outcomes achievable by the group, and arranges for the members to
       consider this update as required by the current Constitution;
       (b) the Committee reduce asset holdings in line with part (a),
       donating dormant resources to TUG and DANTE

MU    DS1. That UK-TUG be dissolved, and that its remaining assets be
       transferred in accordance with Clause 5(3)(b) of the Constitution
       in two equal parts to:
       (i) TeX Users Group (TUG), and
       (ii) Deutschsprachige Anwendervereinigung TeX e.V. (DANTE).

MU    JF1. If UK-TUG is dissolved then its surplus assets will be 
distributed
       in proportion to the individually expressed wishes of members,
       taking into account only those wishes that are consistent with the
       constitution.

MU    JF2. That there be an SGM on the continuation and dissolution of 
UK TUG
       in the first quarter of 2022.

MU JF3. That UK-TUG be dissolved.


I expect you'll find it easy to cut and paste into an email. After a 
short edit, done! You can replace Mu by FOR, AGAINST or ABSTAIN.

In practice you can be AGAINST as much as you like. You can ABSTAIN as 
much as you like. Care is advised with voting FOR.  I hope you do vote 
FOR, but not overenthusiastically. Please make sure that each motion you 
vote FOR is compatible with the other motion(s) you vote FOR.

Jay Hammond




On 03/11/2021 21:05, tonyharkeroxford at gmail.com wrote:
> I'm losing track of what we are supposed to be voting on and to whom we are supposed to be responding.
>
> Frankly, I just want all this to stop.
>
> I've already voted (I thought) but other issues seem to have come up that have muddied the waters.
>
>   I see no point in extending the SGM. My vote is for dissolution, with funds redistributed to TUG and DANTE.
>
>   Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uktug-announce <uktug-announce-bounces+tonyharkeroxford=gmail.com at tug.org> On Behalf Of Jay Hammond
> Sent: 03 November 2021 20:57
> To: UK-TUG Announce <uktug-announce at tug.org>
> Subject: [UK-TUG] Procedural matters
>
> Thank you members for responding to my request for a show of hands. I hope more of you will.
>
> Until midnight I'll be collecting yes's and No's. I hope to express the sense of the meeting at that time.
>
> Do feel free to contribute now  by discussing in other threads. You don't need to wait for the show of hands to finish.
>
> What is your opinion of *Motion JF3* : 'That UK TUG be dissolved.'  ?
> and the other motions?
>
> Perhaps you'd just rather vote secretly? That's very  acceptable too.
>
> All discussions of motions count towards the quorum.  As do actual votes.
>
>
> For the convenience of us all, Please use an existing subject* when contributing at the SGM.
>
> I'm sorry that I did not emphasize that you should show your hand
> (YES/NO)  in "Procedural Matters"
>
> thanks
>
> Jay Hammond
>
> *Please use a thread/Subject  started by the Chair, or secretary. I've usually said inside the unofficial threads that  they are not for discussion. I would have deleted them if I could. I've not responded to misfiled Individual yes/no's, though.
>
> The motion threads, procedural matters, chair's report, treasurer's report, {meeting instructions & voting instructions  by Joseph}  are all approved threads.
>
> JH
>
>
>
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Email use jay at jjnr.uk