[UK-TUG] SEGM impose penalties for not voting!

Olivier Van Acker cyberroadie at gmail.com
Sun Dec 4 16:28:16 CET 2011


Can I become a non-voting member? I'd like to financially contribute and be
on the mailing list to keep up to date, not much time for thinking how to
vote on all the different subjects

Olivier


On 4 December 2011 14:00, Michael Dewey <med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> At 23:41 02/12/2011, Jay Hammond wrote:
>
>  Dear members
>>
>> please vote. If you don't, I think you should resign instead. You owe
>> it to UKTUG to help keep the show on the road. And if you don't think
>> UKTUG should function, you should vote to wind it up or resign.
>>
>>
> I am a member because I feel that in a small way I thereby contribute to
> the continued work of the community. I agree GBP 10 is not much of a
> contribution but I do not feel that my inactivity otherwise should make me
> resign.
>
>
>
>  The AGM was inquorate. That left UKTUG in difficulty.  As I
>> understand it, we are supposed to have an AGM, and that AGM is
>> supposed to do certain business.  This SEGM  is a more democratic way
>> of resuming the AGM, but it is not, formally speaking, the AGM.
>>
>> The constitution states the AGM,  if inquorate, is to be resumed (at
>> a new time and place, notice being given) and that the quorum is -
>> well whichever members turn up, even if that's only the chair and
>> their dog. i.e. possibly just 1 member. They can decide what they
>> like with whatever consequences that has.
>>
>> So being inquorate is really bad news for UKTUG. In fact I would go
>> so far as to say it is not in the interest of UKTUG to be inquorate.
>>
>> That does not sound very radical. But there is a clause in the
>> constitution that permits the committee to eject a member for not
>> acting in the interest of UKTUG. And I'm arguing that not voting at
>> the AGM (even by proxy) is behaviour that  leads to inquoracy and
>> difficulties for UKTUG.  I did propose to the committee that all
>> nonvoting members be asked to resign.
>>
>> If you think that's a bad idea, please let me know (and vote anyway!)
>>
>>
>> Jay Hammond
>>
>> homemade at talktalk.net
>>
>
> Michael Dewey
> med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
> http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk/**home.html<http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk/home.html>
>
>
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