[texworks] texworks Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4

david allen texjunky at gmail.com
Mon Apr 5 22:07:53 CEST 2010


In my message about close and exit, perhaps one point was misinterpreted.
In a lame effort to be cute, i used the term microsoftesque. My reference
was
to Microsoft's propensity for making thing more complicated by trying to be
helpful.
(eg hiding file extensions). I meant no reference to specific behavior of
Word.

My request is that if one closes the last file, he gets the same blank
screen present when the
program starts. This way close just means close. What could be simpler or
clearer?

One can always use "quit" to exit the program.

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:51 PM, <texworks-request at tug.org> wrote:

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>   1. Re: 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,   TeXWorks        0.3
>      ver 571 (Paul A Norman)
>   2. Re: 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,   TeXWorks        0.3
>      ver 571 (Herbert Schulz)
>   3. Re: 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10, TeXWorks  0.3
>      ver 571 (Alain Delmotte)
>   4. Re: 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,   TeXWorks        0.3
>      ver 571 (Herbert Schulz)
>   5. Re: svn revision number (was: 'No SyncTex data available',
>      Xunbuntu 9.10, TeXWorks 0.3 ver 571) (Stefan L?ffler)
>   6. Re: 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10, TeXWorks  0.3
>      ver 571 (Bruno Voisin)
>   7. close and exit (david allen)
>   8. Re: close and exit (Jonathan Kew)
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:52:37 +1200
> From: Paul A Norman <paul.a.norman at gmail.com>
> To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." <texworks at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [texworks] 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,
>        TeXWorks        0.3 ver 571
> Message-ID:
>        <y2p7a20a4ed1004040352g928602bdic6d247ecdd7c595d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Thanks Jonathan and Alain,
>
> >From your questions Jonathan, I had a look at my tex distribution and
> realised that it was only TexLive 2007 (it came with Ubuntu 9.10).
>
> Set up for an update using this repository:
>
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:aelmahmoudy/tl2009
>
> Got TeXLive2007 off, and did the TeXLive 2009-07 install (not having
> any reference to a more recent one not having seen Alain's message
> yet.)
>
> sudo apt-get install texlive
>
> Once completed then did a full install using synaptic texlive-full
> package installation.
>
> Now scyntex works fine both between source and preview and, preview and
> source.
>
> My TeXWorks is:
>  2007-2010 Jonathan Kew & Stefan L?ffler Version 0.3 (r.571),
>  with the svn offset on the version number that Alain has also noticed.
>
> So I take it that we should avoid the latest TeXLive (April? 2010) for now?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On 4 April 2010 20:16, Alain Delmotte <esperanto at swing.be> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Lars Madsen a ?crit :
> >>
> >> Paul A Norman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm currently setting up an Xunbuntu 9.10 box, using TeXWorks 0.3 ver
> >>> 571 installed after adding ppa:texworks/ppa. (0.3.0~svn581~karmic1
> >>> Stefan L?ffler ?(2010-04-02) )
> >>>
> >>> This document trial was done using the built in template for article
> >>> with small safe modifications.
> >>>
> >>> When the typesetting has finished the document correctly shows in the
> >>> preview pane and a message briefly appears in the preview frame's
> >>> footer panel saying that there is 'No SyncTex data available', and so
> >>> of course none of the 'Jump to ..' work
> >>>
> >>> Do I need to install something else or ...?
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>
> >> check the path to your document. The sunctex feature does not seem to
> like
> >> non ascii chars in the path.
> >>
> >> For example if I add the danish letter ? (which is non ascii) to the
> path
> >> to the file. Synctex fails.
> >
> > I have the same problem under Ubuntu9.10
> > I use the latest TeXlive (installed from the web on Thursday.
> > There is no non-ascii letters (not even space) in the path.
> > TeXworks is the same 0.3 r571 (shouldn't it be 581!!) compiled by Stefan
> on
> > the 02/04 and put at launchpad
> >
> > Alain
> >
> >>
> >> This is a known issue.
> >>
> >> /daleif
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:19:35 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." <texworks at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [texworks] 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,
>        TeXWorks        0.3 ver 571
> Message-ID: <063FAA93-B6F1-44AF-9F90-5D9DF1F53D47 at wideopenwest.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Paul A Norman wrote:
>
> > ...
> > So I take it that we should avoid the latest TeXLive (April? 2010) for
> now?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> Howdy,
>
> That latest TeX Live is still 2009. I suspect work on 2010 is just getting
> underway or will start soon.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:47:30 +0200
> From: Alain Delmotte <esperanto at swing.be>
> To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." <texworks at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [texworks] 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,
>        TeXWorks        0.3 ver 571
> Message-ID: <4BB88A62.70204 at swing.be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi!
>
> Herbert Schulz a ?crit :
> > On Apr 4, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Paul A Norman wrote:
> >
> >
> >> ...
> >> So I take it that we should avoid the latest TeXLive (April? 2010) for
> now?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > That latest TeX Live is still 2009. I suspect work on 2010 is just
> getting underway or will start soon.
> >
>  From the file install-tl.txt:
> #!/usr/bin/env perl
> # $Id: install-tl 17455 2010-03-14 15:52:58Z preining $
> #
> # Copyright 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 Reinhard Kotucha, Norbert Preining
> # This file is licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2
> # or any later version.
>
> It looks like it already is 2010.
> Now I'll have to look how to "downgrade".
>
> Alain
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Herb Schulz
> > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:54:28 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." <texworks at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [texworks] 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,
>        TeXWorks        0.3 ver 571
> Message-ID: <E7A5E4FC-6984-4B44-8C19-28DF9EEBFCB3 at wideopenwest.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Herbert Schulz a ?crit :
> >> On Apr 4, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Paul A Norman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> ...
> >>> So I take it that we should avoid the latest TeXLive (April? 2010) for
> now?
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> That latest TeX Live is still 2009. I suspect work on 2010 is just
> getting underway or will start soon.
> >>
> > From the file install-tl.txt:
> > #!/usr/bin/env perl
> > # $Id: install-tl 17455 2010-03-14 15:52:58Z preining $
> > #
> > # Copyright 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 Reinhard Kotucha, Norbert Preining
> > # This file is licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2
> > # or any later version.
> >
> > It looks like it already is 2010.
> > Now I'll have to look how to "downgrade".
> >
> > Alain
>
> Howdy,
>
> Well, since 2009 came out late in in 2009 and scripts have been updated as
> time went on it isn't surprising that some scripts have a 2010 Copyright
> date although they are for 2009.
>
> Did I miss a smiley?
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:15:22 +0200
> From: Stefan L?ffler <st.loeffler at gmail.com>
> To: texworks at tug.org
> Subject: Re: [texworks] svn revision number (was: 'No SyncTex data
>        available', Xunbuntu 9.10, TeXWorks 0.3 ver 571)
> Message-ID: <4BB89EFA.1010603 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
>
> Am 2010-04-04 10:16, schrieb Alain Delmotte:
> > TeXworks is the same 0.3 r571 (shouldn't it be 581!!) compiled by
> > Stefan on the 02/04 and put at launchpad
>
> Thanks for noticing. Should be corrected in future builds.
> For those who are interested: this comes from the repository, where
> apparently it didn't get updated during the latest commits. In the
> future, my build process should update them itself, though.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:01:18 +0200
> From: Bruno Voisin <bvoisin at me.com>
> To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." <texworks at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [texworks] 'No SyncTex data available', Xunbuntu 9.10,
>        TeXWorks        0.3 ver 571
> Message-ID: <824B05A2-534F-408E-B171-F9BB25D8DE63 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Le 4 avr. 2010 ? 14:54, Herbert Schulz a ?crit :
>
> > On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
> >
> >> From the file install-tl.txt:
> >> #!/usr/bin/env perl
> >> # $Id: install-tl 17455 2010-03-14 15:52:58Z preining $
> >> #
> >> # Copyright 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 Reinhard Kotucha, Norbert Preining
> >> # This file is licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2
> >> # or any later version.
> >>
> >> It looks like it already is 2010.
> >> Now I'll have to look how to "downgrade".
> >
> > Well, since 2009 came out late in in 2009 and scripts have been updated
> as time went on it isn't surprising that some scripts have a 2010 Copyright
> date although they are for 2009.
>
> The latest TeX Live release is 2009 (released early November 2009).
> Included is tlmgr (TeX Live Manager), able to perform various tasks one of
> which is updating the TeX Live installation. tlmgr can be run in
> command-line mode, and has an X11 GUI.
>
> What you're seeing is most likely the result of an update through tlmgr. I
> don't know whether the updates can be performed automatically, or whether
> you must have run tlmgr yourself at some point (for example installing a new
> package).
>
> On the Mac, MacTeX-2009 includes a Cocoa front-end TeX Live Utility to
> tlmgr. I'm runnning it regularly for updates and package management, and
> have exactly the same as you in /usr/local/texlive/2009/install-tl:
>
> # $Id: install-tl 17455 2010-03-14 15:52:58Z preining $
> #
> # Copyright 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 Reinhard Kotucha, Norbert Preining
> # This file is licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2
> # or any later version.
>
> Reaarding SyncTeX, if memory serves right it was only included in TeX Live
> from 2008 onwards, so it's quite normal you can't have it with TeX Live
> 2007.
>
> Bruno Voisin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 22:14:53 -0400
> From: david allen <texjunky at gmail.com>
> To: texworks at tug.org
> Subject: [texworks] close and exit
> Message-ID:
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> when one has a single file open, the "close" command both closes the file
> and exits the program.
> I sometimes want stop work on one project and start work on another. I find
> that behavior annoying.
>
> for "close" not to mean just close is so Microsoftesque.
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> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:51:07 +0100
> From: Jonathan Kew <jfkthame at googlemail.com>
> To: "Discuss the TeXworks front end." <texworks at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [texworks] close and exit
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> On 4 Apr 2010, at 03:14, david allen wrote:
>
> > when one has a single file open, the "close" command both closes the file
> and exits the program.
> > I sometimes want stop work on one project and start work on another. I
> find that behavior annoying.
> >
> > for "close" not to mean just close is so Microsoftesque.
>
> Surely it's normal for an application to exit if you close its last (or
> only) open window? Once the window is closed, there's no user interface for
> you to interact with it further. What would you expect to see after you
> close the window?
>
> This would be different in a MDI-style application or a tabbed-editing
> model, where documents are opened into sub-windows within an overall
> application workspace; but that's not how TeXworks is designed. (Yes, tabbed
> editing is on the wish-list as an alternative interface model for the
> future.)
>
> (I presume you're working on Windows or Linux, as this behavior is
> different on Mac OS X.)
>
> JK
>
>
>
>
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