[texhax] fatal errors with footnote italics for critical edition
crebecca at uchicago.edu
crebecca at uchicago.edu
Fri Jul 10 21:24:15 CEST 2009
My error comes from how I learned ledmac, and how I thought the brackets
functioned.
I thought \edtext{lemma}{\A{<Anote>}}{\B{<Bnote}}, \B and \A needing to be
entirely separated at all times by brackets. And I found confusing the idea of
keeping all the notes in the same argument.
But really, it's more like \edtext{lemma}{\A{}\B{}all the notes together...} as you
describe.
Vafa requested an entire short section of text - so far, your suggestion works
here as well. Maybe he will know why \textit strains the formatting to the
breaking point. Or maybe he'll be able to enjoy his weekend a little sooner. : ).
I'll test on all the other fatal errors to see what happens. But so far, great!
thank you! Rebecca
---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:33:07 +0200
>From: Uwe Lück <uwe.lueck at web.de>
>Subject: Re: [texhax] fatal errors with footnote italics for critical edition
>To: Rebecca Chung <crebecca at uchicago.edu>, Vafa Khalighi
<vafa at users.berlios.de>
>Cc: texhax at tug.org
>
>Hi Rebecca, thanks for the file.
>
>At 20:26 09.07.09, crebecca at uchicago.edu wrote:
>> We \edt{came}{\A{came \sout{here} H}} the \edt{25th}{\A{five and
>> twentieth, F}}
>>to \edt{Mohatch}{\A{\I{Mohatch} F}}, and were shewed the field near it, where
>>\edt{Lewis}{\A{\I{Lewis}, F}}{\B{Halsband notes that ``LM copied [from
>>Rycaut's
>>\I{History of the Turks}] as she admits at the end of the letter," but
>>this passage
>>paraphrases and references without copying (Rycaut, 602-3).}}
>[...]
>>]! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=5000].
>>\\->\x at protect \\
>> \protect \\
>>l.57 ...ferences without copying (Rycaut, 602-3).}
>> } the young King of
>> Hungar...
>>! ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>
>OK, I get the same. But
>
>> We \edt{came}{\A{came \sout{here} H}} the \edt{25th}{\A{five and
>> twentieth, F}}
>>to \edt{Mohatch}{\A{\I{Mohatch} F}}, and were shewed the field near it, where
>>\edt{Lewis}{\A{\I{Lewis}, F}\B{Halsband notes that ``LM copied [from
Rycaut's
>>\I{History of the Turks}] as she admits at the end of the letter," but
>>this passage
>>paraphrases and references without copying (Rycaut, 602-3).}}
>
>is alright. `}{' before `\B' removed. As I guessed: *all* the footnote
>commands for one lemma (first argument of \edtext=\edt) must (or better
>should, for the safe way) be in the second argument of \edtext:
>
>>\edt{<lemma>}{\A{<Anote>}\B{<Bnote>}}
>
>I knew EDMAC better, where \text{<lemma>}<commands>/ was the model
for
>ledmac's \edtext{<lemma>}{<commands>}.
>
>My guess about \morenoexpands was wrong, sorry. It seems to deal with main
>text formatting only, not with formatting notes.
>
>Happy TeXing,
>
> Uwe.
>
>
>> > > >At 18:49 01.07.09, you wrote:
>> > > >>Nothing changes when I move around the
>> > preamble elements -
>> > > >> it's still \moreexpands undefined.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >>---- Original message ----
>> > > >> >> >Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:24:52 +0200
>> > > >> >> >From: Uwe Lück <uwe.lueck at web.de>
>> > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [texhax] fatal errors with
>> > footnote italics for critical
>> > > >> >> edition
>> > > >> >> >To: <crebecca at uchicago.edu>
>> > > >> >> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >Sorry, mistyped, must be:
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >1. Put all footnote commands into the
>> > second argument of
>> > > \edt=\edtext
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >2. In your document preamble, place
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > Â Â
>> > \renewcommand{\morenoexpands}{\let\textit=0}
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >This extends \no at expands. If you get
>> > problems with \uline as well:
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > Â Â
>> > \renewcommand{\morenoexpands}{\let\textit=0\let\uline=0}
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >and so on when new problems appear. Or
>> > \let\I=0 if you really never
>> > > use
>> > > >> >> >\textit.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >HTH -- Uwe.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >>---- Original message ----
>> > > >> >> >> >Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:48:41 +0200
>> > > >> >> >> >From: Uwe Lueck <uwe.lueck at web.de>
>> > > >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [texhax] fatal errors
>> > with footnote italics for critical
>> > > >> >> >> edition
>> > > >> >> >> >To: crebecca at uchicago.edu, texhax
>> > <texhax at tug.org>
>> > > >> >> >> >Cc: Vafa Khalighi
>> > <vafa at users.berlios.de>
>> > > >> >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >> ><crebecca at uchicago.edu> schrieb am
>> > 30.06.2009 16:51:08:
>> > > >> >> >> >> For a critical edition (Mac OS,
>> > ledmac, TeXShop, all latest
>> > > >> versions)
>> > > >> >> >> with
>> > > >> >> >>double
>> > > >> >> >> >> footnotes, my B footnotes are
>> > vulnerable to random "fatal
>> > > errors"
>> > > >>when
>> > > >> >> >> text
>> > > >> >> >>is
>> > > >> >> >> >> italicized. Â These fatal errors
>> > tend to happen when B footnotes
>> > > >> >> follow A
>> > > >> >> >> >> footnotes, or when B footnotes reach
>> > some kind of length or
>> > > >>formatting
>> > > >> >> >>limit.
>> > > >> >> >> >> The error disappears when the
>> > italicization is removed.
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> Error first, preamble next. Â Both
>> > \textit and my macro \I
>> > > generate
>> > > >>the
>> > > >> >> >> same
>> > > >> >> >> >> error. Â Â Other macros: \edt =
>> > \edtext Â \A = Afootnote Â \B =
>> > > >>Bfootnote
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> \edt{ananas}{\A{\I{Ananasses} F;
>> > Anana's H}}{\B{pineapples (Fr.
>> > > >> >> >> \I{ananas})}},
>> > > >> >> >> >> \edt{which to my taste}{\A{\sout{I}
>> > to H; which, to my taste, F}}
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> (./Letter19final.aux)
>> > > >> >> >> >> (/usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-
>> > > dist/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ptm.fd)
>> > > >> >>Section 1
>> > > >> >> >> >> (./Letter19final.1)
>> > > >> >> >> >> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry
>> > [input stack size=5000].
>> > > >> >> >> >> \@nomath ...e \@font at warning
>> > {Command \noexpand #1
>> > > >> >> >> >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â invalid in
>> > math
>> > > >> >> >> mode}\fi
>> > > >> >> >> >> l.43 ...nana's H}}{\B{pineapples
>> > (Fr. \I{ananas})}
>> > > >> >> >> >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â },
>> > \edt{which
>> > > >> to my
>> > > >> >> >> taste}...
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> ! Â ==> Fatal error occurred, no
>> > output PDF file produced!
>> > > >> >> >> >> Transcript written on
>> > Letter19final.log.
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> \documentclass[12pt]{article}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \title{Turkish Embassy Letters}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \author{ed. Rebecca Chung}
>> > > >> >> >> >> Â \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{ptm}
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\A}{\Afootnote}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\B}{\Bfootnote}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\edt}{\edtext}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\I}{\textit}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\U}{\uline}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\OED}{(\I{OED})}
>> > > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\CL}{\I{Complete
>> > Letters}}
>> > > >> >> >> >>
>> > > >> >> >> >> \usepackage{ledmac}
>
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