[texhax] fatal errors with footnote italics for critical edition

crebecca at uchicago.edu crebecca at uchicago.edu
Fri Jul 10 21:24:15 CEST 2009


My error comes from how I learned ledmac, and how I thought the brackets 
functioned. 

 I thought \edtext{lemma}{\A{<Anote>}}{\B{<Bnote}}, \B and \A needing to be 
entirely separated at all times by brackets.   And I found confusing the idea of 
keeping all the notes in the same argument.     

 But really, it's more like \edtext{lemma}{\A{}\B{}all the notes together...} as you 
describe.  

Vafa requested an entire short section of text - so far, your suggestion works 
here as well. Maybe he will know why \textit strains the formatting to the 
breaking point.  Or maybe he'll be able to enjoy his weekend a little sooner. :  ).

I'll test on all the other fatal errors to see what happens.  But so far, great!  

thank you!  Rebecca  
 
---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:33:07 +0200
>From: Uwe Lück <uwe.lueck at web.de>  
>Subject: Re: [texhax] fatal errors with footnote italics for critical edition  
>To: Rebecca Chung <crebecca at uchicago.edu>, Vafa Khalighi 
<vafa at users.berlios.de>
>Cc: texhax at tug.org
>
>Hi Rebecca, thanks for the file.
>
>At 20:26 09.07.09, crebecca at uchicago.edu wrote:
>>  We \edt{came}{\A{came \sout{here} H}} the \edt{25th}{\A{five and 
>> twentieth, F}}
>>to \edt{Mohatch}{\A{\I{Mohatch} F}}, and were shewed the field near it, where
>>\edt{Lewis}{\A{\I{Lewis}, F}}{\B{Halsband notes that ``LM copied [from 
>>Rycaut's
>>\I{History of the Turks}] as she admits at the end of the letter," but 
>>this passage
>>paraphrases and references without copying (Rycaut, 602-3).}}
>[...]
>>]! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=5000].
>>\\->\x at protect \\
>>                  \protect \\
>>l.57 ...ferences without copying (Rycaut, 602-3).}
>>                                                   } the young King of 
>> Hungar...
>>!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>
>OK, I get the same. But
>
>>  We \edt{came}{\A{came \sout{here} H}} the \edt{25th}{\A{five and 
>> twentieth, F}}
>>to \edt{Mohatch}{\A{\I{Mohatch} F}}, and were shewed the field near it, where
>>\edt{Lewis}{\A{\I{Lewis}, F}\B{Halsband notes that ``LM copied [from 
Rycaut's
>>\I{History of the Turks}] as she admits at the end of the letter," but 
>>this passage
>>paraphrases and references without copying (Rycaut, 602-3).}}
>
>is alright. `}{' before `\B' removed. As I guessed: *all* the footnote 
>commands for one lemma (first argument of \edtext=\edt) must (or better 
>should, for the safe way) be in the second argument of \edtext:
>
>>\edt{<lemma>}{\A{<Anote>}\B{<Bnote>}}
>
>I knew EDMAC better, where \text{<lemma>}<commands>/ was the model 
for 
>ledmac's \edtext{<lemma>}{<commands>}.
>
>My guess about \morenoexpands was wrong, sorry. It seems to deal with main 
>text formatting only, not with formatting notes.
>
>Happy TeXing,
>
>     Uwe.
>
>
>> >     > >At 18:49 01.07.09, you wrote:
>> >     > >>Nothing changes when I move around the
>> >     preamble elements -
>> >     > >> it's still \moreexpands undefined.
>> >     > >> >
>> >     > >> >>---- Original message ----
>> >     > >> >> >Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:24:52 +0200
>> >     > >> >> >From: Uwe Lück <uwe.lueck at web.de>
>> >     > >> >> >Subject: Re: [texhax] fatal errors with
>> >     footnote italics for critical
>> >     > >> >> edition
>> >     > >> >> >To: <crebecca at uchicago.edu>
>> >     > >> >> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >Sorry, mistyped, must be:
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >1. Put all footnote commands into the
>> >     second argument of
>> >     > \edt=\edtext
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >2. In your document preamble, place
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> > Â  Â
>> >     \renewcommand{\morenoexpands}{\let\textit=0}
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >This extends \no at expands. If you get
>> >     problems with \uline as well:
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> > Â  Â
>> >     \renewcommand{\morenoexpands}{\let\textit=0\let\uline=0}
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >and so on when new problems appear. Or
>> >     \let\I=0 if you really never
>> >     > use
>> >     > >> >> >\textit.
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >HTH -- Uwe.
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >>---- Original message ----
>> >     > >> >> >> >Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:48:41 +0200
>> >     > >> >> >> >From: Uwe Lueck <uwe.lueck at web.de>
>> >     > >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [texhax] fatal errors
>> >     with footnote italics for critical
>> >     > >> >> >> edition
>> >     > >> >> >> >To: crebecca at uchicago.edu, texhax
>> >     <texhax at tug.org>
>> >     > >> >> >> >Cc: Vafa Khalighi
>> >     <vafa at users.berlios.de>
>> >     > >> >> >> >
>> >     > >> >> >> ><crebecca at uchicago.edu> schrieb am
>> >     30.06.2009 16:51:08:
>> >     > >> >> >> >> For a critical edition (Mac OS,
>> >     ledmac, TeXShop, all latest
>> >     > >> versions)
>> >     > >> >> >> with
>> >     > >> >> >>double
>> >     > >> >> >> >> footnotes, my B footnotes are
>> >     vulnerable to random "fatal
>> >     > errors"
>> >     > >>when
>> >     > >> >> >> text
>> >     > >> >> >>is
>> >     > >> >> >> >> italicized. Â These fatal errors
>> >     tend to happen when B footnotes
>> >     > >> >> follow A
>> >     > >> >> >> >> footnotes, or when B footnotes reach
>> >     some kind of length or
>> >     > >>formatting
>> >     > >> >> >>limit.
>> >     > >> >> >> >> The error disappears when the
>> >     italicization is removed.
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> Error first, preamble next. Â Both
>> >     \textit and my macro \I
>> >     > generate
>> >     > >>the
>> >     > >> >> >> same
>> >     > >> >> >> >> error. Â  Â Other macros: \edt =
>> >     \edtext  \A = Afootnote  \B =
>> >     > >>Bfootnote
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \edt{ananas}{\A{\I{Ananasses} F;
>> >     Anana's H}}{\B{pineapples (Fr.
>> >     > >> >> >> \I{ananas})}},
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \edt{which to my taste}{\A{\sout{I}
>> >     to H; which, to my taste, F}}
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> (./Letter19final.aux)
>> >     > >> >> >> >> (/usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-
>> >     > dist/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ptm.fd)
>> >     > >> >>Section 1
>> >     > >> >> >> >> (./Letter19final.1)
>> >     > >> >> >> >> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry
>> >     [input stack size=5000].
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \@nomath ...e \@font at warning
>> >     {Command \noexpand #1
>> >     > >> >> >> >> Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â
>> >     Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  invalid in
>> >     math
>> >     > >> >> >> mode}\fi
>> >     > >> >> >> >> l.43 ...nana's H}}{\B{pineapples
>> >     (Fr. \I{ananas})}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â
>> >     Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  },
>> >     \edt{which
>> >     > >> to my
>> >     > >> >> >> taste}...
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> ! Â ==> Fatal error occurred, no
>> >     output PDF file produced!
>> >     > >> >> >> >> Transcript written on
>> >     Letter19final.log.
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \documentclass[12pt]{article}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \title{Turkish Embassy Letters}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \author{ed. Rebecca Chung}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> Â \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{ptm}
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\A}{\Afootnote}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\B}{\Bfootnote}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\edt}{\edtext}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\I}{\textit}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\U}{\uline}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\OED}{(\I{OED})}
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \newcommand{\CL}{\I{Complete
>> >     Letters}}
>> >     > >> >> >> >>
>> >     > >> >> >> >> \usepackage{ledmac}
>






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