[texhax] how to put permil sign?

Antra antra at prl.res.in
Fri Jun 23 05:56:17 CEST 2006


Dear listmembers,

How to put permil sign(%.) in the text. In MS word, I type it using 
(Alt+0137).

Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
wishes,
antra.



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>    4. Re: pound-sterlings (Gary Knott)
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>    6. Re: pound-sterlings (Martin Heller)
>    7. Re: pound-sterlings (tom sgouros)
>    8. turningn off hyphenation (Paul Tremblay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:20:00 +0100 (BST)
> From: John Palmer <johnp at palmyra.uklinux.net>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] status of  *.tex to *.doc conversion ?
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> 
> I have used latex2rtf.  I was pleasantly surprised by the compactness of
> the RTF it produced (compared to what MS-Word produces!) and the rendering
> seemed reasonably faithful, within the limitations of the wordprocessor.  
> I admit I haven't had to deal with much maths or with complex tabular
> layouts, and I know latex2rtf is less than a full solution, even for
> LaTeX, and does nothing for plain TeX, etc.
> 
> Apologies if I'm being ignorant but I guess converting TeX to RTF is a
> better strategy than to attempt to directly create Word .doc files, which
> are a bit of a black secret.  Is there a dvi2rtf program or project ?
> 
> -- 
> John Palmer
> Preston near Weymouth, Dorset, England
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:42:40 +0200
> From: Juergen Fenn <juergen.fenn at GMX.DE>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] status of  *.tex to *.doc conversion ?
> To: texhax at tug.org
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> John Palmer <johnp at palmyra.uklinux.net> writes:
> 
> > Apologies if I'm being ignorant but I guess converting TeX to RTF is a
> > better strategy than to attempt to directly create Word .doc files, which
> > are a bit of a black secret.  
> 
> This is true in the first place because TeX -> RTF converts one makup
> language into another. The best free converter from RTF to DOC is
> probably OOo. Since OOo is open source its DOC export filter should be
> no 'black secret' any more. However, there are no free converters for
> TeX -> DOC. tex2word is said to be working rather well generally
> (according to an article in the journal of DANTE a while ago), but it
> is nonfree. This is why we have to go via RTF to DOC -- or via HTML.
> 
> > Is there a dvi2rtf program or project ?
> 
> Not to my knowledge. See 
> 
>   http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/pctotex.html
>   http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html
> 
> for an overview of converters between (La)TeX and word processors.
> 
> Regards,
> J?rgen.
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:53:28 -0400
> From: Gary Knott <knott at civilized.com>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] pound-sterlings
> To: tom sgouros <tomfool at as220.org>, texhax at tug.org
> Message-ID: <449B1158.8000401 at civilized.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Dear Tom,
> 
> Thanks for responding.  I have tried both
> \usepackage{times} and \usepackage{mathptmx}
> 
> But, my problem is not getting a listing per se.
> 
> I can get a good listing with the command
> dvips -o book.ps book.dvi
> 
> The problem is that I need to make a
> pdf file that is both screen-viewable and printable.
> I have read that this means using so-called type-1
> fonts.
> 
> As I understand it, I can make a .ps file
> with type-1 fonts by typing:
> dvips -Ppdf -o book.ps book.dvi
> and then make my .pdf file by typing:
> ps2pdf12 book.ps book.pdf
> 
> However(!) printing the file book.ps created
> with the -Ppdf switch via the command lpr book.ps,
> has "fi" replaced by pound-sterling everywhere - and
> "fl" is some strange char too.  I expect this means that
> book.pdf is broken too.
> 
> You suggested using:
> dvips -Pdownload35 -o book.ps book.dvi
> - That works, as does [dvips -o book.ps book.dvi] -
> but, I still need the type-1 fonts pdf file, so
> I tried [dvips -Pdownload35 -Ppdf -o book.ps book.dvi]
> and that failed! (pound-sterlings appear again!)
> 
> I hope you or someone can explain what's going on.
> 
> Thanks, gary knott. knott at civilized.com
> 
> 
> tom sgouros wrote:
> > What font are you using?  If you're using Times, Palatino and some
> > others I can't remember, the font is not included in the output by dvips
> > (even though the documentation says that including the font is the
> > default) so you rely on the hp printer to have the same font as you TeX
> > installation, and ligatures are often casualties of any conflict.  Try
> > this:
> > 
> >  dvips -Pdownload35 book.dvi
> > 
> > The "35" refers to the 35 basic postscript fonts, that someone else here
> > can list for you.
> > 
> >  -tom
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:03:54 -0400
> From: Gary Knott <knott at civilized.com>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] pound-sterlings
> To: Alex Scorpan <scorpan at gmail.com>, texhax at tug.org
> Message-ID: <449B13CA.1010809 at civilized.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dear Alex,
> Your example below works fine. (although you have
> no $ ... $ therein.)  My problem was much more complex.
> 
> If you are interested, see the .sty file attached that
> has a comment about the problem of getting braces in a
> verbatim-like context used for handling C-programs.
> 
> But maybe you can solve my dvips -Ppdf problem?
> 
> Thanks, Gary Knott, knott at civilized.com
> 
> 
> 
> Alex Scorpan wrote:
> >>  but it turned
> >> out to be the issue that latex2e doesn't handle \tt in math mode
> >> any more.
> > 
> > 
> > What are you talking about?  Typeset:
> > 
> >     \documentclass{article}
> >     \begin{document}
> >     \[ blah \tt blah \]
> >     \end{document}
> > 
> > The second "blah" should be in typewriter.
> > 
> > If not, then something is very wrong with your TeX setup (which might  
> > explain the problem with the pound sterling as well).
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:19:56 -0400
> From: Gary Knott <knott at civilized.com>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] pound-sterlings
> To: tom sgouros <tomfool at as220.org>, texhax at tug.org
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> Dear Tom,
> One more piece of information about my dvips -Ppdf
> problem.  If I drop any use of a font-selection
> package, then
> [dvips -Ppdf -o book.ps book.dvi]
> yields a book.ps file which does not print
> with pound-sterlings for "fi" - all is well.
> 
> But, I want to use a Times font!
> 
> Shalom, gary knott, knott at civilized.com
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> | Spoken: Gary D. Knott      Email: knott at civilized.com       |
> | Phone: (301) 962-3711      MIME mail welcome                |
> |                                                             |
> | web: www.civilized.com  (Please look at our HomePage!)      |
> | USPS: Civilized Software Inc., 12109 Heritage Park Circle,  |
> |       Silver Spring, Maryland 20906, USA                    |
> ==============================================================
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:44:15 +0200
> From: Martin Heller <mr_heller at yahoo.dk>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] pound-sterlings
> To: texhax at tug.org
> Message-ID: <e7f6fv$3sj$1 at sea.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Gary Knott wrote:
> 
> > I hope you or someone can explain what's going on.
> 
> 
> I already did. It is a bug in dvips
> <http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=charshift>. 
> Use the -G0 flag or update your dvips.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:03:25 -0400
> From: tom sgouros <tomfool at as220.org>
> Subject: Re: [texhax] pound-sterlings
> To: knott at civilized.com
> Cc: texhax at tug.org
> Message-ID: <20060623000325.23C0AAF403C at as220.org>
> 
> 
> Gary Knott <knott at civilized.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Tom,
> > 
> > Thanks for responding.  I have tried both
> > \usepackage{times} and \usepackage{mathptmx}
> > 
> > But, my problem is not getting a listing per se.
> > 
> > I can get a good listing with the command
> > dvips -o book.ps book.dvi
> > 
> > The problem is that I need to make a
> > pdf file that is both screen-viewable and printable.
> > I have read that this means using so-called type-1
> > fonts.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by a listing.  Using the download35 map will
> give you all Type 1 fonts, and will work both in PDF and to print.
> 
> It might be a good moment for someone who knows to explain the
> difference between config.pdf and config.download35, but I'm not that
> person.  I find that each time I think I almost understand the font
> handling in X/PostScript/TeX/PDF it slips away from me.
> 
> > As I understand it, I can make a .ps file
> > with type-1 fonts by typing:
> > dvips -Ppdf -o book.ps book.dvi
> > and then make my .pdf file by typing:
> > ps2pdf12 book.ps book.pdf
> 
> This will work, but so will this:
> 
>   $ dvips -o book.ps book.dvi
>   $ ps2pdf book.ps
> 
> > However(!) printing the file book.ps created
> > with the -Ppdf switch via the command lpr book.ps,
> > has "fi" replaced by pound-sterling everywhere - and
> > "fl" is some strange char too.  I expect this means that
> > book.pdf is broken too.
> 
> I don't know why you'd expect that without looking.  What is apparently
> happening is that the printer has a different Times font than your TeX
> setup, with the pound sterling symbol in the slot where your TeX setup
> thought it should have a ligature, and the default for dvips is not to
> include the Times font in the output PS file.
> 
> > 
> > You suggested using:
> > dvips -Pdownload35 -o book.ps book.dvi
> > - That works, as does [dvips -o book.ps book.dvi] -
> > but, I still need the type-1 fonts pdf file, so
> > I tried [dvips -Pdownload35 -Ppdf -o book.ps book.dvi]
> > and that failed! (pound-sterlings appear again!)
> 
> The -P options are meant to be, I believe, mutually exclusive.  Look for
> the files config.download35 and config.pdf, and you may not understand
> all, but part of it will become clear.  They are just collections of
> dvips command-line options.
> 
>  -tom
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > tom sgouros wrote:
> > > What font are you using?  If you're using Times, Palatino and some
> > > others I can't remember, the font is not included in the output by dvips
> > > (even though the documentation says that including the font is the
> > > default) so you rely on the hp printer to have the same font as you TeX
> > > installation, and ligatures are often casualties of any conflict.  Try
> > > this:
> > >  dvips -Pdownload35 book.dvi
> > > The "35" refers to the 35 basic postscript fonts, that someone else
> > > here
> > > can list for you.
> > >  -tom
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > ==============================================================
> > | Spoken: Gary D. Knott      Email: knott at civilized.com       |
> > | Phone: (301) 962-3711      MIME mail welcome                |
> > |                                                             |
> > | web: www.civilized.com  (Please look at our HomePage!)      |
> > | USPS: Civilized Software Inc., 12109 Heritage Park Circle,  |
> > |       Silver Spring, Maryland 20906, USA                    |
> > ==============================================================
> > 
> 
> 
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>  http://sgouros.com  
>  http://whatcheer.net
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:57:46 -0400
> From: Paul Tremblay <phthenry at iglou.com>
> Subject: [texhax] turningn off hyphenation
> To: texhax <texhax at tug.org>
> Message-ID: <20060623015746.GA7264 at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> If I put this at the top of my document:
> 
> \hyphenpenalty=10000
> 
> Then I am able to turn off hyphens. However, some of my longer titles
> run right off the page.
> 
> Paul
> 
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