left/right page lineup

[Zdenek Wagner]

st 27. 4. 2022 v 17:43 odesílatel Robert Alessi
<alessi at robertalessi.net> napsal:
>
> Hi,
>
> What you describe sounds very interesting.  Did you make a package out
> of these macros?  Aside, you are right: switching columns all the time
> is certainly not the most flexible way that is.  (As you are also
> right about the line breaks.)
>
Unfortunately not. My zwpoetry package could be published but it has
no documentation. When typesetting the poetry books many years ago I
copied the macros from one book to another and modified them. After
some time I designed a configurable package. The bilingual macros have
a strange origin which lies in this book:
http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz/bharat.php

In usual LaTeX documents you have a text ant figures and tables float
within the text. However, this is a photo book, the images should have
fixed places and the text should float around them. The slides to the
lecture are in Czech but you can see that first it allows to position
the images with an auxilliary grid. Next it shows the place of the
text lines using grey lines within the grid (after defining the text
areas). When the text is inserted, the grey lines are replaced with
the text and finally the lines are removed. You can see in the example
that the width on the left page differs from the text width on the
right page and the paragraph is properly broken on the page break.
This is done by typesetting in a \vbox with \parshape and then
\vsplit. And when I learned \vsplit, it was easy to use zwpoetry with
the selected macros for the Hindi/Czech book. It has a preface in both
languages which is a prose and the sentences have different  lengths,
thus they do not have the same number of lines. It does not matter
much. Table of contents have two parts, Hindi and Czech and again in
the multipage TOC the left pages are in Hindi, right pages in Czech.
It is, of course, generated automatically. In addition, \@evenfoot
number the pages using Devanagari digits, \@oddfoot numbers them in
Arabic digits. The page numbers are sent to the respective TOCs as
numbers (\thepage) but the Hindi part converts them to Devanagari. So
I can put the macros to my web and you will have to modify them.

And I must stress that my goal was not a critical edition, I just
wanted to present myself in India and one Indian poet here in the
Czech Republic and prepare a book which was not publishe previously
and most probably another similar book will never be published.

> Best,
>
> Robert
>

Zdeněk Wagner
http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml


> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 05:28:56PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is more difficult than my solution because in paracol you have to
> > split it and put Latin, Swedish, Latin, Swedish, etc. Whe I was
> > preparing our Hindi.Czech book (see
> > http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz/ArunakashKaRasta/), I developed an
> > environment where I put the whole Hindi poem and the whole Czech poem.
> > Each of them is typeset to a \vbox and if it is higher than
> > \textheight, it is split to pieces by \vsplit and the boxes are then
> > placed to the pages. I do not have flexible spaces between paragraph,
> > i.e. \parskip is a fixed length without the "plus" and "minus" part,
> > flexibility is allowed on the bottom of page only. And since both
> > versions have the same numbers of lines, they are vertically aligned.
> >
> > I do not know Swedish and I am lazy to try translators but I think
> > that "till dig ändå" at the end of the long line means "for your
> > soul". I do not know Latin as well but it seems to me that I do not
> > see it in the Latin text while "de tuis sanctis pedibus" certainly
> > means "från dina heliga fötter" (I know a little Danish and
> > Norwegian).
> >
> > Zdeněk Wagner
> > http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
> >
> > st 27. 4. 2022 v 17:10 odesílatel Robert Alessi
> > <alessi at robertalessi.net> napsal:
> > >
> > > Hello Karl,
> > >
> > > Maybe you should use the verse package for poetry and the paracol
> > > package for parallel typesetting, as in the attached files.
> > >
> > > paracol uses the starred version of \begin{column} to have texts
> > > printed in such a way that the tops of all paragraphs are vertically
> > > aligned.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 03:08:32PM +0200, karl at aspodata.se wrote:
> > > >  How do you line up, in a page spread, the left and right
> > > > page text lines ?
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to make a text booklet (size 115 x 180 mm)
> > > > in a dvd-case for a music recording of Buxtehudes
> > > > membra Jesu nostri:
> > > >  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Membra_Jesu_Nostri
> > > >
> > > > In it I like to have the latin text on the left page
> > > > and the translation on the right page. The pages are
> > > > too small to have the latin and translation side by side
> > > > on the same page.
> > > >
> > > > Now given the files in:
> > > >  http://aspodata.se/tmp/tex/
> > > > it works fine for the first spread to just have the same amount of
> > > > text lines in the tex file. But for the second spread it doesn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Both the latin and the translation have the same amount of lines.
> > > > How come it is typeset differently ?
> > > > How do I do to solve that without resorting to manually setting
> > > > paragraph heights ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > /Karl Hammar
> > > >