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>    1. Install file of the TL should have unique name (Denis Bitouz?)
>    2. Re: Install file of the TL should have unique name (Philip Taylor)
>    3. Re: Install file of the TL should have unique name (Lars Madsen)
>    4. Re: Install file of the TL should have unique name (Zdenek Wagner)
>    5. Re: Install file of the TL should have unique name (Lars Madsen)
>    6. Re: Install file of the TL should have unique name (Denis Bitouz?)
>    7. Re: Install file of the TL should have unique name (Denis Bitouz?)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:33:59 +0100
> From: Denis Bitouz? <dbitouze at wanadoo.fr>
> To: <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> Message-ID: <20140109193359.6db92984 at drums.chezmoi.fr>
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> Hi,
>
> in order to install TL 2013 on Windows, I told a student of mine to
> click on the 'install-tl.bat' file in the TL folder. But, as:
>
> 1. by default, Windows hides the files' extensions,
> 2. TL provides 3 'install-tl.*' files,
>
> my student didn't succeed to run the install wizard as he didn't click
> on the right file.
>
> He brought his computer at the university in order I help him but
> I couldn't figure out what was the right file to run. I had to change
> the Windows config in order to make the extensions be displayed, to
> finally detect the .bat file.
>
> Hence, it could be nice that for the install file of the TL to have
> unique name.
>
> Best regards.
> --
> Denis
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:51:05 +0000
> From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk>
> To: Denis Bitouz? <dbitouze at wanadoo.fr>, <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> Message-ID: <52CEEF99.4070107 at Rhul.Ac.Uk>
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> I have enormous sympathy with this request, and will never
> understand, as long as I live, why Microsoft chose to conceal
> vital information in this way.
>
> Philip Taylor
> --------
> Denis Bitouz? wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in order to install TL 2013 on Windows, I told a student of mine to
> > click on the 'install-tl.bat' file in the TL folder. But, as:
> >
> > 1. by default, Windows hides the files' extensions,
> > 2. TL provides 3 'install-tl.*' files,
> >
> > my student didn't succeed to run the install wizard as he didn't click
> > on the right file.
> >
> > He brought his computer at the university in order I help him but
> > I couldn't figure out what was the right file to run. I had to change
> > the Windows config in order to make the extensions be displayed, to
> > finally detect the .bat file.
> >
> > Hence, it could be nice that for the install file of the TL to have
> > unique name.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
>
> --
> Windows 8 ? Just say "no".
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:09:34 +0000
> From: Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk>
> To: Denis Bitouz? <dbitouze at wanadoo.fr>, "tex-live at tug.org"
>         <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> Message-ID:
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>
> I agree with Philip, it is a really annoying Win feature.
>
> I change it on our users computer whenever they come by.
>
> As far as making the file names unique, I do not think it is possible at
> the moment due to the manner in which the .bat file calls install-tl
>
> But you should easily be able to tell them apart even without the
> extensions. Windows would be able to identify .bat files.
>
>
>
> /Lars Madsen
> Institut for Matematik / Department of Mathematics
> Aarhus Universitet / Aarhus University
> Mere info: http://au.dk/daleif@imf / More information:
> http://au.dk/en/daleif@imf
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: tex-live [tex-live-bounces at tug.org] on behalf of Denis Bitouz? [
> dbitouze at wanadoo.fr]
> Sent: 09 January 2014 19:33
> To: tex-live at tug.org
> Subject: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
>
> Hi,
>
> in order to install TL 2013 on Windows, I told a student of mine to
> click on the 'install-tl.bat' file in the TL folder. But, as:
>
> 1. by default, Windows hides the files' extensions,
> 2. TL provides 3 'install-tl.*' files,
>
> my student didn't succeed to run the install wizard as he didn't click
> on the right file.
>
> He brought his computer at the university in order I help him but
> I couldn't figure out what was the right file to run. I had to change
> the Windows config in order to make the extensions be displayed, to
> finally detect the .bat file.
>
> Hence, it could be nice that for the install file of the TL to have
> unique name.
>
> Best regards.
> --
> Denis
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:59 +0100
> From: Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>
> To: Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk>
> Cc: "tex-live at tug.org" <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
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> 2014/1/9 Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk>:
> > I agree with Philip, it is a really annoying Win feature.
> >
> >From my point of view it is even one of the most dangerous
> misfeatures. If a user clicks "infectme.txt" assuming to open it in a
> notepad and it is in fact "infectme.txt.exe", the user's computer will
> be infected. The Windows users should be educated to:
>
> 1. configure Windows to display all extensions
>
> 2. do not click anything unless (1) is done
>
> 3. report this security risk to Microsoft
>
> 4. spread this knowledge to other Windows users
>
> > I change it on our users computer whenever they come by.
> >
> > As far as making the file names unique, I do not think it is possible at
> the moment due to the manner in which the .bat file calls install-tl
> >
> > But you should easily be able to tell them apart even without the
> extensions. Windows would be able to identify .bat files.
> >
> >
> >
> > /Lars Madsen
> > Institut for Matematik / Department of Mathematics
> > Aarhus Universitet / Aarhus University
> > Mere info: http://au.dk/daleif@imf / More information:
> http://au.dk/en/daleif@imf
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: tex-live [tex-live-bounces at tug.org] on behalf of Denis Bitouz? [
> dbitouze at wanadoo.fr]
> > Sent: 09 January 2014 19:33
> > To: tex-live at tug.org
> > Subject: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > in order to install TL 2013 on Windows, I told a student of mine to
> > click on the 'install-tl.bat' file in the TL folder. But, as:
> >
> > 1. by default, Windows hides the files' extensions,
> > 2. TL provides 3 'install-tl.*' files,
> >
> > my student didn't succeed to run the install wizard as he didn't click
> > on the right file.
> >
> > He brought his computer at the university in order I help him but
> > I couldn't figure out what was the right file to run. I had to change
> > the Windows config in order to make the extensions be displayed, to
> > finally detect the .bat file.
> >
> > Hence, it could be nice that for the install file of the TL to have
> > unique name.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > --
> > Denis
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Zden?k Wagner
> http://hroch486.icpf.cas.cz/wagner/
> http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:33:09 +0000
> From: Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk>
> To: "zdenek.wagner at gmail.com" <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>
> Cc: "tex-live at tug.org" <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> Message-ID:
>         <89ECE88578D8F648A22E307DAEE88579475B989B at SRVUNIMBX07.uni.au.dk>
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>
> Don't you remember the "I love you" virus from the late 90s (I think), it
> exploited exactly that, came as an attached file called i_love_you.txt.vbs
>
> One of our it guys gave a talk about the virus and the "interesting" ved
> features that it used
>
> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zdenek Wagner [zdenek.wagner at gmail.com]
> Received: torsdag, 09 jan. 2014, 21:20
> To: Lars Madsen [daleif at imf.au.dk]
> CC: Denis Bitouz? [dbitouze at wanadoo.fr]; tex-live at tug.org [
> tex-live at tug.org]
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
>
> 2014/1/9 Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk>:
> > I agree with Philip, it is a really annoying Win feature.
> >
> >From my point of view it is even one of the most dangerous
> misfeatures. If a user clicks "infectme.txt" assuming to open it in a
> notepad and it is in fact "infectme.txt.exe", the user's computer will
> be infected. The Windows users should be educated to:
>
> 1. configure Windows to display all extensions
>
> 2. do not click anything unless (1) is done
>
> 3. report this security risk to Microsoft
>
> 4. spread this knowledge to other Windows users
>
> > I change it on our users computer whenever they come by.
> >
> > As far as making the file names unique, I do not think it is possible at
> the moment due to the manner in which the .bat file calls install-tl
> >
> > But you should easily be able to tell them apart even without the
> extensions. Windows would be able to identify .bat files.
> >
> >
> >
> > /Lars Madsen
> > Institut for Matematik / Department of Mathematics
> > Aarhus Universitet / Aarhus University
> > Mere info: http://au.dk/daleif@imf / More information:
> http://au.dk/en/daleif@imf
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: tex-live [tex-live-bounces at tug.org] on behalf of Denis Bitouz? [
> dbitouze at wanadoo.fr]
> > Sent: 09 January 2014 19:33
> > To: tex-live at tug.org
> > Subject: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > in order to install TL 2013 on Windows, I told a student of mine to
> > click on the 'install-tl.bat' file in the TL folder. But, as:
> >
> > 1. by default, Windows hides the files' extensions,
> > 2. TL provides 3 'install-tl.*' files,
> >
> > my student didn't succeed to run the install wizard as he didn't click
> > on the right file.
> >
> > He brought his computer at the university in order I help him but
> > I couldn't figure out what was the right file to run. I had to change
> > the Windows config in order to make the extensions be displayed, to
> > finally detect the .bat file.
> >
> > Hence, it could be nice that for the install file of the TL to have
> > unique name.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > --
> > Denis
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Zden?k Wagner
> http://hroch486.icpf.cas.cz/wagner/
> http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 22:21:21 +0100
> From: Denis Bitouz? <dbitouze at wanadoo.fr>
> To: <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> Message-ID: <20140109222121.25db3ff9 at drums.chezmoi.fr>
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> Le jeudi 09/01/14 ? 20h09,
> Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk> a ?crit :
>
> > I agree with Philip, it is a really annoying Win feature.
>
> I agree as well!
>
> > I change it on our users computer whenever they come by.
>
> Yes, but with computers on their own?
>
> > As far as making the file names unique, I do not think it is possible
> > at the moment due to the manner in which the .bat file calls
> > install-tl
>
> Sigh...
>
> > But you should easily be able to tell them apart even without the
> > extensions. Windows would be able to identify .bat files.
>
> As said, it wasn't that clear to me (IIRC, in the "type" column of the
> .bat file was written something like "Windows commands file")
> --
> Denis
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 22:21:38 +0100
> From: Denis Bitouz? <dbitouze at wanadoo.fr>
> To: <tex-live at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
> Message-ID: <20140109222138.64463173 at drums.chezmoi.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Le jeudi 09/01/14 ? 21h19,
> Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> > From my point of view it is even one of the most dangerous
> > misfeatures. If a user clicks "infectme.txt" assuming to open it in a
> > notepad and it is in fact "infectme.txt.exe", the user's computer will
> > be infected.
>
> Indeed.
>
> > The Windows users should be educated to:
> >
> > 1. configure Windows to display all extensions
>
> It's what I advise to all my students. But how to reach aaaaalllll the
> Windows users?
>
> > 2. do not click anything unless (1) is done
>
> At least, they'll click on some shortcut on the Desktop ;)
>
> > 3. report this security risk to Microsoft
>
> This should be told on Windows forums and mailing lists.
>
> > 4. spread this knowledge to other Windows users
>
> Indeed.
> --
> Denis
>
>
>
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