[omega] typesetting biblical hebrew with makor and a protext install
sam sayag
samuelsayag at gmail.com
Fri Jan 25 14:45:04 CET 2008
Enfin, endlich, finally, finalmente, all fine ....
Thanks Olaf Märker, you put me on the track of the virtual font wich I still
don't know about at all, but at least I know it exist and that i've to care
about it.
So dvips make the job but it needs this *psfonts.map* that MikteX absolutely
doesn't want to update when you point on an independant TDS respectfull new
package as Makor for instance can be. Why ? That I still don't know but
I update it with my hands and know it works ok.
*After :*
S:\>dvips -d -1 -o c:\mkrltest.ps c:\mkrltest.dvi
*The log mutate to :*
This is dvips(k) 5.96dev Copyright 2007 Radical Eye Software (
www.radicaleye.com
)
input file c:\mkrltest.dvi output file c:\mkrltest.ps swmem 3500000
Alloc 27
Adding header file "tex.pro" 2960
Alloc 3000
'Omega output, Version 3.14159--1.15, 2008.01.25:1314' -> c:\mkrltest.ps
bop at 68
Scanning page 1
Alloc 142
Alloc 12
Alloc 64
Alloc 3072
Defining font () cmr10 at 10.0pt
Font cmr10 <CMR10> is resident.
Alloc 25
Alloc 12
Alloc 64
Alloc 3072
Defining font () ezra2 at 9.0pt
Loading virtual font ezra2.vf at 9.0pt
Alloc 12
Alloc 64
Alloc 3072
Defining font () ezra at 9.0pt
Alloc 12
Alloc 64
Alloc 3072
Defining font () cmfib8 at 6.8pt
Alloc 12
Alloc 64
Alloc 3072
Defining font () trope at 9.0pt
Allocating new raster memory (3 req, 0 left)
Alloc 8192
Font ezra <Ezra> is resident.
Alloc 24
Alloc 96
Have a section: 1 pages at 68 fontmem 2620
Alloc 29
Adding header file "texps.pro" 785
Sending header file "tex.pro"
<C:/Donnees/Program/Latex/dvips/base/tex.pro>Sending header file "texps.pro"
<C:/Donnees/Program/Latex/dvips/base/texps.pro>.
<C:/Donnees/Program/makor/fonts/type1/makor2/ezra/ezra.pfb>
<C:/Donnees/Program/Latex/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmr10.pfb>[1]
Total memory allocated: 270563
Thanks a lot for helping
2008/1/25, sam sayag <samuelsayag at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> It seems that dvips should make the work but it fail to build the police.
> I've this in my console
>
>
> S:\>dvips -o c:\mkrltest.ps c:\mkrltest.dvi
> This is dvips(k) 5.96dev Copyright 2007 Radical Eye Software (
> www.radicaleye.com
> )
> 'Omega output, Version 3.14159--1.15, 2008.01.25:1314' -> c:\mkrltest.ps
> Trying to make PK font ezra at 540 DPI...
> Running makemf...
> makemf: The ezra source file could not be found.
> Running ttf2pk...
> makepk: PK font ezra could not be created.
> dvips: Font ezra not found, characters will be left blank.
> <C:/Donnees/Program/Latex/dvips/base/tex.pro>
> <C:/Donnees/Program/Latex/dvips/base/texps.pro>.
> <C:/Donnees/Program/Latex/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmr10.pfb>[1]
>
>
>
> 2008/1/25, sam sayag <samuelsayag at gmail.com>:
>
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: sam sayag <samuelsayag at gmail.com>
> > Date: 25 janv. 2008 12:07
> > Subject: Re: [omega] typesetting biblical hebrew with makor and a
> > protext install
> > To: Olaf Märker <okax at gmx.de>
> >
> > Thanks for your advice. I realised odvips wasn't in the Miktex
> > directory. I don't know why but I asked them the question (on the miktex
> > mailling list).
> > Now wait and see. I think Miktex is smart enough to include something
> > equivalent, with tex live they are supposed to be a complete/serious
> > distributions among the most used (at list in my country).
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > 2008/1/25, Olaf Märker <okax at gmx.de>:
> > >
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Hello Samuel,
> > >
> > > to use your dvi output in any viewer you can covert it with odvicopy,
> > > which should be included in your distribution. That will expand any
> > > references to virtual omega fonts to base fonts.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Olaf
> > >
> > > sam sayag schrieb:
> > > > Hi I thank you very much for your advices,
> > > >
> > > > I've seen XeTeX indeed while I was browsing the web and I'll
> > > consider
> > > > that solution if there's no better. I worked on it this afternoon
> > > and
> > > > solve my problem on omega and lambda (I just made a few try with
> > > options
> > > > with linux's man omega/lambda command) I've still that problem of
> > > the
> > > > font not found in dvi output ... but I produce regular .pdf/.ps with
> > > my
> > > > first shalom aholam exemple. I'm very exited about it.
> > > >
> > > > I visited your SIL site wich i'll be interesed in but i feel i could
> > > > have the same problem with your solution.
> > > >
> > > > Obviously, I produce regular DVI but my Yap (dvi viewer) program
> > > cannot
> > > > find this ezra font. I think there is something like a font map to
> > > > udpdate maybe that is used by yap but i'm so knew to TeX
> > > systems that
> > > > I'm still wondering what is it, where in the TDS i can find it and
> > > how
> > > > to modify.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to spend time to answer
> > > >
> > > > 2008/1/24, Jonathan Kew <jonathan_kew at sil.org
> > > > <mailto:jonathan_kew at sil.org>>:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Samuel,
> > > >
> > > > This is not a direct answer to your Omega questions, but you
> > > could
> > > > consider the alternative Unicode-enabled TeX extension, XeTeX. I
> > > am
> > > > attaching a basic XeTeX sample file, and the corresponding PDF
> > > > output, to illustrate the capabilities. It is also possible to
> > > use
> > > > Hebrew in conjuction with LaTeX packages, etc., for more
> > > advanced
> > > > document structure and formatting; there is an active mailing
> > > list
> > > > (see http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/XeTeX) where you will find
> > > other
> > > > users interested in these issues.
> > > >
> > > > XeTeX is included with MikTeX 2.7 and other recent TeX
> > > distributions,
> > > > and requires very little effort to set up; to process the
> > > attached
> > > > sample, all you need is the "Ezra SIL" OpenType font installed
> > > in
> > > > your Windows Fonts folder. (It would also work with other fonts
> > > such
> > > > as SBL Hebrew just by changing the name in the \font
> > > declaration.)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 24 Jan 2008, at 9:14 am, sam sayag wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello everybody,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm Samuel, I'm french (so please forgive my english faults).
> > > I'm
> > > > > new to the world of TeX, LaTeX and of course Omega too.
> > > > > I need (in fact my sister need but i'll do the job for her) to
> > > > > typeset biblical hebrew (for research paper needs) with all
> > > the
> > > > > strange stuff around the letters : cantilation, vocalisation
> > > and so
> > > > > on.
> > > > > So I brought together my courage and decide to dive in the
> > > world of
> > > > > TeX. I discover CTAN and in the hebrew section an interesting
> > > > > package called Makor that let you typeset at least the bible
> > > if you
> > > > > had the courage...
> > > > > I installed quite easily ProTeXt (MikTeX, TeXniccenter,
> > > ghostscript/
> > > > > view...) , tested it with french basic document but things got
> > > > > complex when I tried to obtain my first "hello world" example
> > > in
> > > > > biblical hebrew. I read the manual and it is said that Makor
> > > use
> > > > > Omega/TeX. I try to read a few thing about Omega but I cannot
> > > find
> > > > > any document saying (for a newcomer) how to use it in the
> > > context
> > > > > of a ProTeX or TeXLive basic installation and how these
> > > progamms
> > > > > (it seems omega and lambda) interact with TeX when I push the
> > > Ctrl
> > > > > +F7 button on TeXnicenter the moment I compile.
> > > > >
> > > > > first question : Did I miss something on the internet ? Do I
> > > have
> > > > > to read something before bothering people on this list ? Is
> > > there a
> > > > > tutorial somewhere ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Then the guy (Alan Hoenig) says in the Makor documentation
> > > that you
> > > > > have to :
> > > > >
> > > > > "place psfonts.mkr2 into your file psfonts.map"
> > > > >
> > > > > second question : how do i do this with MikTeX ? In the
> > > settings I
> > > > > made miktex point on the Makor tree (it is suppose to work
> > > because
> > > > > makor tree respect the TDS I read and trust) and then refresh
> > > the
> > > > > FNDB (file name data base ?). I even found the psfonts.map in
> > > my
> > > > > windows settings (C:\Documents and Settings\sayag_s\Local
> > > Settings
> > > > > \Application Data\MiKTeX\2.7\dvips\config) but couldn't see
> > > the
> > > > > mapping of the new fonts (maybe it is normal i don't know
> > > ...).
> > > > >
> > > > > and then run in commands :
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\> omega mkrotest
> > > > > C:\> lambda mkrltest
> > > > >
> > > > > these commands did produce the DVI I was waiting for (i still
> > > do
> > > > > not understand what is the difference between the omega and
> > > lambda
> > > > > and why i need two command to produce two docs even if i need
> > > one
> > > > > at the end) but then another problem rose :
> > > > >
> > > > > the YAP.exe wich is the DVI viewer cannot find this ezra fonts
> > > but
> > > > > I noticed he could find the ezra2 font at the right place. It
> > > is
> > > > > strange because both the font should be at the same place (is
> > > it a
> > > > > makor bug).
> > > > >
> > > > > after three days trying this and that I'm just a bit
> > > discouraged
> > > > > that's why I ask for help (the french tex list GUTemberg has
> > > no
> > > > > idea about how to solve the probleme and a few forum gave me
> > > the
> > > > > same answer : you need somebody that know something about
> > > Omega...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank (a lot) by advance if somebody can help
> > > > > (I promise I'll make a tutorial for newbies once the whole
> > > thing is
> > > > > finished :))
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Samuel SAYAG
> > > > >
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> > 1, rue du général Larminat
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> Samuel SAYAG
> 1, rue du général Larminat
> 94000 Creteil
> 09 54 39 01 90
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Samuel SAYAG
1, rue du général Larminat
94000 Creteil
09 54 39 01 90
06 26 17 13 84
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