[omega] Texteme, redefining a term used in linguistics?

[gabor.Bella at enst-bretagne.fr]

I like "texteme" too!

<aside>
My only concern is that it sounds quite theoretical, as if we were
establishing a new theory in linguistics/semiotics rather than solving an
admittedly fundamental but still mostly practical problem. But who knows,
such a name might even prove to be fruitful if it incites us to think also
on a more theoretical level. That wouldn't hurt, would it?
</aside>

Gábor


Quoting Yannis Haralambous <yannis.haralambous at enst-bretagne.fr>:

> > Pourquoi pas textème (sur graphème/lexème/sème) ?
>
> texteme (textème, Textem, κειμένημα) is until now THE BEST
> idea: it is
> short, clear, original, general enough, refers only to text and not to
> omega, text processing or even computing, and it sound good (title of
> the last paper: "Omega becomes a texteme processor", "Oméga devient un
> processeur de textèmes").
>
> The only problem is that it already exists in Human Sciences with a
> totally different meaning: it is an elementary unit of text, used in
> rhetorics.
>
> The problem comes from the manifold meanings of "text": text can be
> something abstract and global, text can be concrete (paragraphs, words,
> letters). From our point of view something that encompasses character
> and glyph is indeed an atomic unit of "text", and hence a texteme. From
> the rhetoricians point of view the atomic unit of text is rather
>
> On the other hand, this term seems not be very widely used (only 93
> entries in google, from which some are spelling errors) and from the
> pages I read I have the impression that linguists do not really agree
> on what a texteme is. So maybe, I say: maybe, we could allow ourselves
> to use it DESPITE it being already defined in human sciences.
>
> Are you in favour of using this term with a new meaning?
> Could a linguist (Ioannis?) tell us if this would be a wise decision?
>
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