[OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 6

Catherine Asaro asaro at pobox.com
Mon Apr 11 22:53:28 CEST 2022


Thank you everyone for your help. It is much appreciated. With Richard's help, we narrowed the problem down to TexWorks.

Richard, I'm sorry I took too long to get back to you. I am in the process of moving and packing, and have to do my teaching in between all the other duties. I try to limit my time online, as it is a large time sink. I appreciate your taking the time to respond.

Best regards,
Catherine Asaro
catherineasaro.net
patreon.com/CatherineAsaro

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>   6. Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 5 (Herbert Schulz)
>   7. Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 5 (Ross Moore)
>   8. Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4 (Luis Fernando Sequeira)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:06:08 -0400
> From: John Collins <jcc8 at psu.edu>
> To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
> Message-ID: <069fadbf-ee74-84d2-54e0-79131e7b52cf at psu.edu>
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> On 4/10/22 12:29 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope someone can help me with a possible TeX disaster. I have several decades worth of tex documents I've been developing for my students over the years, hundreds of problems set and so on. I started a new do today, and when I tried to typeset it using the LaTex button, I received a message that said it was restricted. Retrying it did no good. I kept receiving the following message:
>>> 
>>> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
>>>  restricted \write18 enabled.
>>> entering extended mode
>>> (./Problem Set for Kathryn -- Vietas and proof.tex/Library/TeX/texbin/pdflatex: getcwd: Operation not permitted
>>> 
>> ...
>>> 
>>> 2. I tried to make a new file. When I hit the typeset button, I received the following message:
>>> 
>>> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
>>>  restricted \write18 enabled.
>>> entering extended mode
>>> (./Test.tex/Library/TeX/texbin/pdflatex: getcwd: Operation not permitted
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> TeXShop Version 3.04 (3.04)
>>> ...
>> 
>> Where are the files stored? Are they on an external drive or the Cloud? It sounds like you don't have write permissions on that location.
> 
> Is this related to
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/511617/error-with-pdftex-after-updating-to-mac-os-catalina
> where the same kind of error message occurred?
> 
> I also notice the old version of TeXShop (3.04 against the current 4.70), which 
> may be an issue.
> 
> John Collins
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:13:25 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
> Message-ID: <4271A612-1FCA-4F84-A59C-A90009F60848 at wideopenwest.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 2:06 PM, John Collins <jcc8 at psu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/10/22 12:29 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I hope someone can help me with a possible TeX disaster. I have several decades worth of tex documents I've been developing for my students over the years, hundreds of problems set and so on. I started a new do today, and when I tried to typeset it using the LaTex button, I received a message that said it was restricted. Retrying it did no good. I kept receiving the following message:
>>>> 
>>>> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
>>>> restricted \write18 enabled.
>>>> entering extended mode
>>>> (./Problem Set for Kathryn -- Vietas and proof.tex/Library/TeX/texbin/pdflatex: getcwd: Operation not permitted
>>>> 
>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> 2. I tried to make a new file. When I hit the typeset button, I received the following message:
>>>> 
>>>> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
>>>> restricted \write18 enabled.
>>>> entering extended mode
>>>> (./Test.tex/Library/TeX/texbin/pdflatex: getcwd: Operation not permitted
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> TeXShop Version 3.04 (3.04)
>>>> ...
>>> Where are the files stored? Are they on an external drive or the Cloud? It sounds like you don't have write permissions on that location.
>> 
>> Is this related to
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/511617/error-with-pdftex-after-updating-to-mac-os-catalina
>> where the same kind of error message occurred?
>> 
>> I also notice the old version of TeXShop (3.04 against the current 4.70), which may be an issue.
>> 
>> John Collins
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> I think John has hit the nail on the head!
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> herbs at wideopenwest.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 19:27:02 +0000
> From: Richard Koch <koch at uoregon.edu>
> To: TeX on Mac OS X <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
> Message-ID: <B7582C63-C56D-43D7-9B0E-649F6B228185 at uoregon.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> John and Herbert,
> 
> I suspect you both found the solution. I wrote a preliminary note privately to Asaro, but got no response. 
> 
> Often users are frustrated, write to us, and then take the rest of the day off. Understandable. But a little frustrating for the rest of us, because we all jump in to help and then have to wait a couple of days to see what worked.
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:07:43 -0400
> From: Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com>
> To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu
> Cc: Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 5
> Message-ID: <8319ED8B-11C1-4D96-93D8-2F20B425B1F8 at pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:29:34 -0500
>> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>> Message-ID: <86BC68A5-9216-4499-8F5F-31B56E6A5AA2 at wideopenwest.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Where are the files stored? Are they on an external drive or the Cloud? It sounds like you don't have write permissions on that location.
>> 
>> Can you copy a file to your Desktop, open it there and typeset it?
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> herbs at wideopenwest.com
> 
> HI, Herb. I don't use the Cloud. I have always used my desktop. I back everything up to a hard drive periodically using time machine.
> 
> I realized after reading Bill's message below that I probably have copies if everything on time machine. The strangeness happened this morning after I did my most recent backup to TimeMachine. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications unless something is corrupted.
> 
> Best -- Cat
> 
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:41:56 -0500
>> From: William Slough <wslough at gmail.com>
>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<CAJJwOzezXPOvQJzDk81PGEYaNZ8dxQ1w__w5YBhJWYH4rmwDjg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Catherine,
>> 
>> Has something recently been changed on your computer? Perhaps a MacOS
>> update? Which version of MacOS are you running?
>> 
>> To confirm your collection of files has the content you expect (and not
>> empty), can you open a terminal window, move to one of the
>> folders/directories  (with an appropriate "cd" command) in question and
>> "cat" one of the .tex files? This should at the very least provide some
>> reassurance if you can see the content.
>> 
>> It sounds like you are experiencing some type of Unix-style permissions
>> problem ... which might be related to a MacOS update you recently performed?
>> 
>> By the way, once you get this problem resolved, you should investigate
>> using TimeMachine or some other similar backup mechanism to protect against
>> disasters.
>> 
>> Bill
> 
> Bill, I'm stupid for panicking. I do use TimeMachine! In fact, this happened just after I backed up my computer. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, though, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications.
> 
> Best -- Cat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:16:15 -0400
> From: Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com>
> To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu
> Cc: Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 5
> Message-ID: <C3A16452-11CB-4BFB-990B-C162ECA7CA10 at pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
> I was able to get it to work, at least enough. TexShop works now, and my files are there (whew!). TexWorks is misbehaving, but I don't need it. I still need to check the backup drive and Time Machine to make sure nothing is damaged there, but I'm going to take my time with that, to make sure I don't cause any other problems.
> 
> Thanks everyone for your help.
> 
> Best -- Cat
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:29:34 -0500
>>> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>>> Message-ID: <86BC68A5-9216-4499-8F5F-31B56E6A5AA2 at wideopenwest.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Where are the files stored? Are they on an external drive or the Cloud? It sounds like you don't have write permissions on that location.
>>> 
>>> Can you copy a file to your Desktop, open it there and typeset it?
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> 
>>> Herb Schulz
>>> herbs at wideopenwest.com
>> 
>> HI, Herb. I don't use the Cloud. I have always used my desktop. I back everything up to a hard drive periodically using time machine.
>> 
>> I realized after reading Bill's message below that I probably have copies if everything on time machine. The strangeness happened this morning after I did my most recent backup to TimeMachine. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications unless something is corrupted.
>> 
>> Best -- Cat
>> 
>>> 
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:41:56 -0500
>>> From: William Slough <wslough at gmail.com>
>>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 	<CAJJwOzezXPOvQJzDk81PGEYaNZ8dxQ1w__w5YBhJWYH4rmwDjg at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Catherine,
>>> 
>>> Has something recently been changed on your computer? Perhaps a MacOS
>>> update? Which version of MacOS are you running?
>>> 
>>> To confirm your collection of files has the content you expect (and not
>>> empty), can you open a terminal window, move to one of the
>>> folders/directories  (with an appropriate "cd" command) in question and
>>> "cat" one of the .tex files? This should at the very least provide some
>>> reassurance if you can see the content.
>>> 
>>> It sounds like you are experiencing some type of Unix-style permissions
>>> problem ... which might be related to a MacOS update you recently performed?
>>> 
>>> By the way, once you get this problem resolved, you should investigate
>>> using TimeMachine or some other similar backup mechanism to protect against
>>> disasters.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> 
>> Bill, I'm stupid for panicking. I do use TimeMachine! In fact, this happened just after I backed up my computer. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, though, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications.
>> 
>> Best -- Cat
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 18:06:13 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 5
> Message-ID: <EF3AE2B8-9D80-4961-B485-657E6D2D96F3 at wideopenwest.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I was able to get it to work, at least enough. TexShop works now, and my files are there (whew!). TexWorks is misbehaving, but I don't need it. I still need to check the backup drive and Time Machine to make sure nothing is damaged there, but I'm going to take my time with that, to make sure I don't cause any other problems.
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for your help.
>> 
>> Best -- Cat
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:29:34 -0500
>>>> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>>>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>>>> Message-ID: <86BC68A5-9216-4499-8F5F-31B56E6A5AA2 at wideopenwest.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>>>> 
>>>> Where are the files stored? Are they on an external drive or the Cloud? It sounds like you don't have write permissions on that location.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you copy a file to your Desktop, open it there and typeset it?
>>>> 
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> 
>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>> herbs at wideopenwest.com
>>> 
>>> HI, Herb. I don't use the Cloud. I have always used my desktop. I back everything up to a hard drive periodically using time machine.
>>> 
>>> I realized after reading Bill's message below that I probably have copies if everything on time machine. The strangeness happened this morning after I did my most recent backup to TimeMachine. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications unless something is corrupted.
>>> 
>>> Best -- Cat
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:41:56 -0500
>>>> From: William Slough <wslough at gmail.com>
>>>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 	<CAJJwOzezXPOvQJzDk81PGEYaNZ8dxQ1w__w5YBhJWYH4rmwDjg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>> Catherine,
>>>> 
>>>> Has something recently been changed on your computer? Perhaps a MacOS
>>>> update? Which version of MacOS are you running?
>>>> 
>>>> To confirm your collection of files has the content you expect (and not
>>>> empty), can you open a terminal window, move to one of the
>>>> folders/directories  (with an appropriate "cd" command) in question and
>>>> "cat" one of the .tex files? This should at the very least provide some
>>>> reassurance if you can see the content.
>>>> 
>>>> It sounds like you are experiencing some type of Unix-style permissions
>>>> problem ... which might be related to a MacOS update you recently performed?
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, once you get this problem resolved, you should investigate
>>>> using TimeMachine or some other similar backup mechanism to protect against
>>>> disasters.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> Bill, I'm stupid for panicking. I do use TimeMachine! In fact, this happened just after I backed up my computer. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, though, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications.
>>> 
>>> Best -- Cat
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> If TeXworks is opening instead of TeXShop when you double click a .tex file there is a very easy fix. Select any .tex file and do a File->Get Info? (Cmd-I) in Finder. There is an `Open with:' item. Click on the popup menu and select TeXShop.app from the list and then click on the `Change All?' button and answering yes in the dialog box. From then on all .tex files will open in TeXShop when Double Clicked.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> herbs at wideopenwest.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 23:27:00 +0000
> From: Ross Moore <ross.moore at mq.edu.au>
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Cc: Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 5
> Message-ID: <7EDC5115-E2C3-439B-B4AE-34918DB3063C at mq.edu.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hello Catherine,
> 
> Perhaps TimeMachine had not actually fully finished when you tried to typeset a document?  
> 
> I sometimes find that the icon has changed back to normal, but if you click on it, then it still can say `Cleaning up ? ?.
> This affects me mostly when I want to disconnect the backup disk, before taking the laptop from home to Uni.
> 
> All the best.
> 
>   Ross
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2022, at 6:09 am, Catherine Asaro <asaro at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ? > Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:29:34 -0500
>>> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>>> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
>>> Message-ID: <86BC68A5-9216-4499-8F5F-31B56E6A5AA2 at wideopenwest.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Where are the files stored? Are they on an external drive or the Cloud? It sounds like you don't have write permissions on that location.
>>> 
>>> Can you copy a file to your Desktop, open it there and typeset it?
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> 
>>> Herb Schulz
>>> herbs at wideopenwest.com
>> 
>> HI, Herb. I don't use the Cloud. I have always used my desktop. I back everything up to a hard drive periodically using time machine.
>> 
>> I realized after reading Bill's message below that I probably have copies if everything on time machine. The strangeness happened this morning after I did my most recent backup to TimeMachine. Before I start messing within anything on the computer or backup drive, I'd like to figure out what's happening so I don't inadvertently do any more damage. Making a time machine backup shouldn't mess with my TexShop applications unless something is corrupted.
>> 
>> Best -- Cat
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 08:54:34 +0100
> From: Luis Fernando Sequeira <lfsequeira at gmail.com>
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
> Message-ID: <12AD39CC-86BC-456F-A5E9-0610B8B4AC6F at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
>> 2. I tried to make a new file. When I hit the typeset button, I received the following message:
>> 
>> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
>> restricted \write18 enabled.
>> entering extended mode
>> (./Test.tex/Library/TeX/texbin/pdflatex: getcwd: Operation not permitted
>> 
>> 3. I closed the file I was working on and tried to reopen it and retry typset. When I did that, I got a file with nothing in it but the following message:
>> 
>> Can someone help me?
>> 
>> This is the info it gives me for the version of TexShop that I use:
>> 
>> TeXShop Version 3.04 (3.04)
>> TeXShip is produced under the GPL public license. Coordination by
>> 
>> Rochard Koch
>> 
>> Code by [long list of coders]
>> 
>> Open Source Framewords and Classes
>> 
> What is your mac model and macOS version?
> 
> You are using a very old version of TeXShop (3.04), and a modern latex (texlive 2021).
> 
> LS
> 
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