[OS X TeX] BibLaTeX and archival (a la jurabib)

Peter Pagin peter.pagin at philosophy.su.se
Wed Dec 17 14:22:33 CET 2008

Just to add my two cents to this: I switched to BibLaTeX from natbib  
about a year and a half ago. With the manual, no formal training in  
programming and about two days of effort I managed to roll my own  
style (humanities, author-date). After minor debugging it worked well  
and I have used it since. Things that had to be taken care of by work- 
arounds in natbib are now features of the style.

17 dec 2008 kl. 09.36 skrev Simon Spiegel:

> On 17.12.2008, at 09:23, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>> Hi,
>> since i started this row some month ago (no response on the list  
>> then) I'd like to elaborate a  bit what I'd expect.
>> Actually the "problem" is still present, I am currently still using  
>> jurabib, basically for two reasons: I know how this particular  
>> package works … – no modifications of the really complicated code –  
>> some things I have not been able to accomplish like a better manage  
>> of the archival-type entries.  The other reason is that my  
>> references (kept in BibDesk) are set up for jurabib.
> Just to make you feel more at easy: I also moved from jurabib to  
> biblatex and I also use BibDesk, so the transition certainly can be  
> done.
>> Simon and Dominik have promised that many things are easier to  
>> accomplish, like multibib-functionality and formatting of  
>> references. Furthermore since jurabib is not developed any more  
>> this is a dead end. I do believe them but…  1) setting things up is  
>> a lot of work (learning, changing the references (field and such  
>> alike) testing 2) most important learning to write a NEW entry-type  
>> (archival) which I believe is not trivial. So I am still shying  
>> away from that huge effort.
>> In fact, I rather like the manual to be 175pages (but so far the  
>> manual I have seen was much much shorter?!) I just recently  
>> installed and updated TexLive2008 (wow that was easy!) and as far  
>> as I know BibLaTeX was not part of this (hint hint: please include  
>> this  as the beta could be kept updated easily with the new package- 
>> Manager!!) so maybe I missed the long long manual. I have to admit  
>> I am not the programmer- or mathematical inclined type, writing  
>> macros is too much for me. So I ultimately don't know if I will be  
>> able to achieve my goal here – in the end it is to finish my thesis  
>> – not be perfect with LaTeX/Bibtex/BibLaTeX/jurabib etc.
> The latest version of biblatex (0.8b) does indeed come with a 175  
> page manual, so you might want to check your version. As for the  
> inclusion of biblatex into TL: Philipp Lehmann has specifically  
> asked distributors *not* to bundle biblatex at this point. I think  
> who wants to wait until version 1.0.
> As for your specific needs. Do you actually need a new document type  
> for this or can this be done with 'unpublished'? Or can you post a  
> tpyical example and how it should look like so I can wrap my head  
> around it?
> If you really can't do it with 'unpublished', it might be a good  
> idea to post a feature request on http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=244752 
>  . Philipp has been very responsive to user requests.
> simon
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