[OS X TeX] updated packages

Victor Ivrii vivrii at gmail.com
Mon Feb 6 22:07:48 CET 2006


On 2/6/06, Gerben Wierda <Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl> wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2006, at 18:34, Victor Ivrii wrote:
>
> > I suspect that without Gerben we will not be able to find an
> > explanation.
>
> Probably not. Here is what I can say about it:
>
> My strategy:
> - texmf.gwtex contains stuff that is not in texmf.tetex. This also
> means it contains dfifferent stuff when you install 2003 (teTeX2)
> versus 2004-2005 (teTeX3). It even used to be that you had the teTeX
> beamer (3.01)when you installed 2004-2005 and the gwtex beamer (3.06)
> when you installed 2003, so 2003 got you a *newer* beamer than
> 2004-2005.

This explains everything

> - I follow teTeX in texmf.tetex because I can't do everything.

You do ***almost everything***.

> If
> there are problems in teTeX (e.g. outdated stuff) I try to get Thomas
> Esser to make a new release.
> - Some extras are installed in texmf.local (e.g. the ConTeXt updater,
> MusixTeX, etc) so they can be installed/uninstalled easily.

I see a problem with you installing into texmf.local: who normally
should uninstall?
If I intall some package into texmf.local, I am aware of this and if
it becomes outdated
I either replace it by a new version or just simply delete it if the
new version comes
to texfm.tetex or texfm.gwtex. However if i-installer puts some staff
here, I am not aware and it will take precedence over newer packages
installed later by i-installer into  texfm.tetex or texfm.gwtex.

>
> Currently, it is becoming clear that teTeX is dead and won't be
> updated anymore. So, it is getting more and more out of date. This is
> presenting me with a serious problem in terms of maintenance.
> Currently, I already replace some stuff in teTeX3 with other stuff
> (i.e. Latin Modern fonts) but this is against my strategy so it is
> really an exception. Another exception is that I do now install
> beamer in texmf.gwtex even if it is part of texmf.tetex. Again,
> against the clean strategy, but a result from the slowly worsening
> situation.

Is it now with TL2005 or was it only with earlier versions?
>
> The fact that teTeX seems to have died makes the problem worse over
> time. Most likely outcome: i will have to find another source for my
> main texmf tree (now texmf.tetex). One option: build my own (ugh),

It would amount to the cruel and unusual punishment (but no good deed
is going unpunished anyway)

> another option: use MikTeX when it becomes avaiilable for Unix. I
> have no idea yet what the outcome will be, but for the time being I
> will probably first move to patching texmf.tetex / adding stuff to
> texmf.gwtex.

It would be nice to have a  complete install logsaying: these packages
were installed in tetex tree, these were installed in gwtex tree,
these were installed in the local; those were deleted without
replacement
>
> The state of the TeX i-package is also the result of having
> experimented with trying to build TeX on various platforms. Hence the
> difference between *EXPERIMENTAL* and the rest. I will probably fix
> that soon as I have decided to drop 10.2 support.
>
> I hope to release an update soon, but the real work will foollow
> after that. If there is a volunteer to build an updated texmf.tetex,
> you're welcome.
>
> G
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           Thanks again
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