[OS X TeX] Various TeX programs on Mac

[Bruno Voisin]

Le 8 mai 04, à 09:08, m a écrit :

>> You run LaTeX once on your .tex or .ltx file to produce a .aux file, 
>> then BibTeX on the .aux file. Based on the data in this file, BibTeX 
>> takes out the relevant bibliographic data out of the .bib file and 
>> generates a .bbl file which contains but the thebibliography 
>> environment to be included in the .tex or .ltx file. Running LaTeX a 
>> second time on this .tex or .ltx file produces the desired output.
>
> Hm, I don't know what to say, because I don't understand how this 
> works, e.g., *how* do you "run BibTeX on the .aux file"? :)
>
> How do TeXShop an iTeXMac handle this right now?

 From the man page, in case BibTeX is used from the command line:

        bibtex [ -min-crossrefs=number ] [ -terse ] [ auxname ]

        BibTeX reads the top-level auxiliary (.aux) file that was output 
during
        the running of latex(1) or tex(1) and  creates  a  bibliography  
(.bbl)
        file  that will be incorporated into the document on subsequent 
runs of
        LaTeX or TeX.  The auxname on the command line must  be  given  
without
        the .aux extension.  If you don't give the auxname, the program 
prompts
        you for it.

 From TeXShop: open the .tex file, then Typeset/BibTeX (Cmd-Shift-B). 
This supposes a text editor has been used to write the .bib file 
beforehand.

 From iTeXMac: can't say, I'm not using it.

> I believe that for beginners, it would be far better to either give 
> them focus on the *output* (because that's what they want to create), 
> or rather give them a mixed focus on both source *and* output (because 
> it's what they want to create AND how they create it).

I disagree with you here: you cannot give beginners a focus on the 
output, when they need to write some input in the first place in order 
to get output created. Or are you considering that beginners will work 
from templates only, never writing a .tex file from scratch?

Please go ahead with your idea, as we just have two very different 
points of view and there's not point in trying to reconcile them, 
probably.

> By using one window, with an initially empty output view, users can 
> *see* that something will be created. Look at iMovie and the black 
> "movie screen". Even though you're not editing the movie itself (as in 
> "click on the movie, draw on it"), your focus IS the movie. Everything 
> else in that window -- timeline, clips, sound, effects, etc. -- is 
> what you're working on, just like the TeX-source.

I can't say: not having any camera, either digital or not, I do not use 
iPhoto, iMovie or iDVD.

>> <ftp://ftp.legi.hmg.inpg.fr/pub/public/voisin/entete.pdf>
>
> needs a password. ;)

login: anonymous
password: (can be anything, or empty)

However there seems to be a problem with the ftp server (I'm indeed 
using PASV):

	Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ ftp ftp.legi.hmg.inpg.fr
	Connected to legilnx6.hmg.inpg.fr.
	220 (vsFTPd 1.1.3)
	Name (ftp.legi.hmg.inpg.fr:brunovoisin): anonymous
	331 Please specify the password.
	Password:
	230 Login successful. Have fun.
	Remote system type is UNIX.
	Using binary mode to transfer files.
	ftp> dir
	500 Unknown command.
	227 Entering Passive Mode (194,254,66,213,80,61)
	200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.

	421 Service not available, remote server timed out. Connection closed

I'll notify the administrator next week.

Bruno Voisin
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