[lucida] [cbandh at usinter.net: Re: Lucida Greek in Java runtime?]

Karl Berry karl at freefriends.org
Mon May 17 01:19:20 CEST 2010

In short: using the Lucida fonts from Java (or MacOSX) with TeX
is indeed ok.  That's nice.

Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:59:39 -0400
From: Charles Bigelow <cbandh at usinter.net>
To: karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
Subject: Re: Lucida Greek in Java runtime?

Hi Karl,

Antonis's simple solution is OK according to the B&H-Sun license
of Lucida fonts for Java.

Assuming that someone got the Lucida fonts with Java software,
by downloading the Java runtime environment, for example,
the fonts can then be used for whatever someone wants with any
application, so no problem with use with TeX or other apps,
provided the fonts are acquired properly.

Mac users can even do this, because OSX includes the Java RE and
and the Lucida fonts, but the fonts are stuck into subdirectories
far from the OSX font folders. Occasionally some enterprising person
finds and uses them on OSX. That's permitted by the license.

The Lucida-Sun license restriction is that the fonts may not be distributed
without being attached or bundled with or associated with Java software,
now Oracle Java software. As an example, Sun can distribute the Lucida
Java fonts with the Java runtime environment, and a Sun licensee can
distribute the fonts when it distributes the Java runtime environment,
and Sun could distribute them with some other Sun software. Now Oracle
can do the same.

What is prohibited by the stipulations in the basic license is somebody
just redistributing the fonts themselves or combining with some non-Sun
software and redistributing them. Also, Sun and its licensees aren't
supposed to modify the fonts without B&H's permission.

-- Chuck

>Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:47:45 +0300
>From: Antonis Tsolomitis <antonis.tsolomitis at gmail.com>
>To: Karl Berry <karl at freefriends.org>
>CC: nikosv01 at gmail.com, lucida at tug.org
>Subject: Re: [lucida] Lucida Greek
>Well..., there is a simpler solution to this. Download and install jre
>(java from Sun).
>This brings in your system lucida which includes Greek.
>Then use the fonts with xelatex.
>Isn't this legally OK?

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