Generating bibtex entry from a URL: zotero, zbib and TooBib.

[Mike Marchywka]

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:05:44PM +0100, Jonathan Fine wrote:
>    Hi Mike
>    You wrote:
> 
>      I went back to this,
>      [https://zbib.org/]https://zbib.org/
>      and pasted this link into the blank,
>      [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7305589_Menadione_is_a_metabolite_of_oral_vitamin_K]https://www.researchgate.n
>      et/publication/7305589_Menadione_is_a_metabolite_of_oral_vitamin_K
>      There was a big red error notice on the page.
>      This link is useful but the bib entry is a skeleton,
>      [https://zbib.org/0e5ac456090d4969af45b8b33b4e3619]https://zbib.org/0e5ac456090d4969af45b8b33b4e3619
> 
>    Well, I repeated the experiment and reproduced your result. It's only my successful generation of the associated
>    [http://zbib.org/]zbib.org bibliography that prevents me doubting my previous success.
>    I'm grateful to you, Mike, for joining me in these investigations. At this point I think the next step for me is to raise
>    an issue with zotero, and see what they say.
>    with best regards

Well, I know research gate had changed their html not long ago and seems a bit adversarial. I was going to
include a comment on relationship in the entry- intended usage, scraped, adversarial, synthesized etc. 
I've actually even got a flag in some code to add a header in the request admonish_webmaster if their
bibtex is too inacccessible. This was a concen I have had for a while - that is, updating in response
to capricous sites. An "update on fail" or automated failure report would probably be good- I
would have thought Zotero would routinely look at failed look ups and start fixing it
right away.  Having all the logic local is great though and the template is probably
reusable- any time you are hacking something that you expect to be a one-off you can just
add to the hack list in case you need it again :)

Again, I like this c++ code for data structures and logic with the fully accessible bash
utilities and possible dynamic library loads etc. Although right now 
it is probably of most interst to developer-authors.   

Personally I'd like to see all sites including news sites that can make good citations include bib info.
My other interest right now is citing a person with enough of a bib entry to disambiguate the
name and provide some terse relevant biographical information ( city and work or education or notable
publications or whatever )- you may be talking about some other "Bill Gates" lol. 
Perhaps a larger commercial interest for everyone though is BomTex or creating a bill of materials
for the topic of the work that could be the basis for author impact assessment or payments.





>    Jonathan

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