[texhax] Questions about flowfram

Thu Oct 20 20:48:47 CEST 2011

Ok, there are two problems with my example (attached again).  If you comment
out the last paragraph or two of the "Lorem ipsum ..." text, the problems
are:

1) The first letter has a second (blank) page, even though there's no
overflowing text to go on it, and
2) The first page of each letter after the first is blank.

I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions on how to overcome these
problems.

Thank you!

-pd

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com> wrote:

> Mine was a very simplified example, just to illustrate the problem of
> reusing page layouts.  In real life, each "letter" would be like an InDesign
> document, with multiple frames on a page, with text flowing from frame to
> frame on a page, and from page to page.  I'm trying to imitate the
> flexibility of InDesign layouts.  I'm pretty sure flowfram is the only
> package that provides that flexibility.
>
> But the problem here is one of turning frames on and off, in effect, so
> that the start of each letter has one set of frames, and pages 2-n have a
> different set.
>
> Thanks,
> -pd
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Uwe Ziegenhagen <ziegenhagen at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> From the template you gave I cannot see anything which couldn't be done
>> with scrlttr2.
>>
>>
>
>
>> Here a multi-page template, in German:
>>
>>
>> \documentclass[DIN,pagenumber=false,parskip=full,fontsize=12pt,fromalign=center,fromrule=aftername,fromfax=true,fromemail=true,fromphone=true,fromurl=true,numericaldate=true]{scrlttr2}
>> %pagenumber=false, bot, botright, botleft
>> %parskip=full,
>> %fontsize=12pt,10pt
>> %fromrule=aftername,afteraddress
>> \usepackage[german]{babel}
>> \usepackage[]{blindtext}
>> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
>> \setkomavar{customer}[Kunden-ID]{uz2002-2384757}
>> %\setkomavar{date}{04.09.2002}
>> \setkomavar{fromurl}{www.mustermann.de}
>> \setkomavar{fromemail}{hans at mustermann.de}
>> \setkomavar{fromfax}{030-123-4567}
>> \setkomavar{fromphone}{030-123-4568}
>> \setkomavar{fromname}{Hans Mustermann}
>> \setkomavar{fromaddress}{Musterweg 1 12345 Musterstadt}
>> \setkomavar{invoice}{HM-2002-123}
>> \setkomavar{myref}{HM020902/3}
>> \setkomavar{subject}{Rückerstattung Lohnsteuer}
>> \setkomavar{title}{Mahnung}
>> \setkomavar{yourmail}{02.09.2002}
>> \setkomavar{yourref}{müller2002}
>> \setkomavar{frombank}{Konto 12\,345\,678\\
>> bei der HansWurstBank\\
>> BLZ 876\,543\,21}
>>
>> \firstfoot{%
>> \parbox[t]{\textwidth}{\footnotesize
>> \begin{tabular}[t]{l@{}}%
>> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{Gesellschafter:}\\
>> Hugo Mayer\\
>> Bernd Müller
>> \end{tabular}%
>> \hfill
>> \begin{tabular}[t]{l@{}}%
>> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{Geschäftsführerin:}\\
>> Liselotte Mayer\\[1ex]
>> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{Gerichtsstand:}\\
>> Hinterdupfeldingen
>> \end{tabular}%
>> \ifkomavarempty{frombank}{}{%
>> \hfill
>> \begin{tabular}[t]{l@{}}%
>> \multicolumn{1}{@{}l@{}}{\usekomavar*{frombank}:}\\
>> \usekomavar{frombank}
>> \end{tabular}%
>> }%
>> }%
>> }
>>
>> \begin{document}
>> \begin{letter}{Finanzamt Musterstadt \\ Musterweg 2\\12345 Musterstadt}
>> \opening{Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,}
>>
>> hiermit bitte ich Sie letztmalig um Rückerstattung meiner gezahlten
>> Lohnsteuer für die Jahre 1995-2001.
>> \blindtext[10]
>>
>>
>> \vspace{1cm}
>> \encl{Anlage 1 \\ Anlage 2}
>> \closing{Mit freundlichen Grüßen}
>> \end{letter}
>> \end{document}
>>
>> 2011/10/20 Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com>
>>
>>>  I have an *almost* working version of this.  I'm attaching a short
>>> (though not minimal) example that outputs three letters of different
>>> lengths.  Each has a first page style which includes a logo in the upper
>>> left, and a later page style which has no logo and a larger text flowframe.
>>>
>>> The problem is that after the first letter, the other letters get a first
>>> page with a logo, but no text.  Then subsequent pages of the 2nd and 3rd
>>> letters look ok.  Any clues about how to fix this would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -pd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I think I'm close to solving this problem.  I think the approach is
>>>> to define a macro like:
>>>>
>>>> \newcommand{\newletter}{%
>>>> \finishthispage%
>>>> \setallflowframes{pages=none}%
>>>> \setflowframes*{logo,address,firpagetext}{pages=\thepage}%
>>>> \setflowframes*{laterpagetext}{pages={>\thepage}}}
>>>>
>>>> Then I just output that at the start of each letter.  I haven't tested
>>>> this yet, but it seems about right based on my other experiments.  NOTE: I
>>>> changed the staticframes for logo and address to flowframes here for
>>>> simplicity.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -pd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Uwe.  No, the pages will all print on the same paper.  Only the
>>>>> layout will vary between the first page and subsequent pages.  But
>>>>> 1) I need the flexibility of flowfram, and
>>>>> 2) all the letters will be in one document, so it may go something
>>>>> like:
>>>>>
>>>>> page 1: letter 1, first page
>>>>> page 2: letter 1, second page
>>>>> page 3: letter 2, first page
>>>>> page 4: letter 3, first page
>>>>> page 5: letter 3, second page
>>>>> page 6: letter 3, third page
>>>>> page 7: letter 4, first page
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So pages 1, 3, 4 and 7 will use one layout, and the remaining pages
>>>>> will use another.  The difficulty with using flowfram with this is that I
>>>>> don't know in advance how many pages each letter will require.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -pd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Uwe Ziegenhagen <
>>>>> ziegenhagen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So the paper itself is different for the different pages? If not the
>>>>>> scrlttr2 class from the KOMA bundle has settings which differentiate between
>>>>>> different page layout for the first and subsequent pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uwe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 20.10.2011 um 01:14 schrieb Peter Davis <pfd at pfdstudio.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, let me try this another way.  Suppose I'm creating a document
>>>>>> which is really a bunch of letters that will get mailed out.  The first page
>>>>>> of each letter should appear to be on letterhead stationery ... with logos,
>>>>>> return address, etc.  The second an subsequent pages will be just plain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So when I define frames, I might do something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> \newstaticframe[1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{logo}
>>>>>> \newstaticframe[1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{address}
>>>>>> \newflowframe[1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{firstpagetext}
>>>>>> \newflowframe[>1]{width}{height}{x}{y}{laterpagetext}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, that's all well and good for one single letter.  But what if I
>>>>>> want to do multiple letters of different lengths, one after another in one
>>>>>> document?  Some are 1 page, some 2 and some 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any way to set the pages keyword for these frames to get them
>>>>>> in the rightplaces?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions, pointers, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -pd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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