{How we move(d) on with math} {Hans Hagen} {Given the amount of time I spend on Lua\TeX\ and \ConTeXt\ I occasionally ask myself if it really makes sense to do that. The answer to that question is determined by several factors. Probably the most important factor is the user base: what are their demands, how do they like to code, what control do they want, and therefore, where can these tools be of help? Another factor is relevance: can this combinations do certain things better than other tools? One area that has always drawn users is math typesetting. So, how up to date is \TeX\ in that respect? Can we still claim victory there? Did we evolve well? Can we survive?}