Paper sizes

[paul]

Dominic,

To formally set the page size in YandYTeX, you must first ue a printer that
supports 6x9 pages.  Most printers do not suopport this and setting up a custom
page generally does not work.  For this example, I have set it as a Linotronic
630

Here are the steps that I use for generating Printer ready page.

1) I installed the printer as a Linotronic 630.  In Dviwindo I set went to the
printer setup and created a custom page size of 6by9.   I selected the custom as
my page size.

2) I did NOT select a page size under Dviwindo>preferences, I simply left it as
letter size.  Do not select any paper size otherwise it will mess up the page
size in Distiller.

3) I went into Distiller and under job options, I set up a new page to be 6 by
9.  I did not change any of the default parameters of Distiller other than allow
PostScript to override job options as stated earlier.

4) I distilled the PostScript file, voila, all is done.

I did not have to fool around with any dvipsone parameters.

Attached as an example of the single page I generated using the steps above.


Personally, I generate PDF files on a larger page (and increase the hoffset and
voffset of the page) than is otherwise necessary.  That way, I can use acrobat
to Crop the page to exact specifications.   Printer that Ideal with prefer that
pages be larger by 1/2" so as to account for drift; that is if you are using
page bleeds.

Good Luck,
Paul Mailhot



John Hodgson wrote:

> Dear Dominic
>
> My experience (we produce PDFs for publishers ready for press which have to
> have an identical physical and logical page size -  which I think Dominic is
> aiming for if I've understood him) is that settings within LaTeX seem to
> have no effect, neither \page nor \paper settings seem to have any effect
> when the file hits the PDF process. The only way we've been able to achieve
> the correct is by using the -l parameter in dvipsone (I've never used the
> -*P parameter).
>
> Have you checked your settings in Distiller? There is an option to allow the
> PostScript file to override Distiller settings somewhere, and you can adjust
> the default page size. (This is true of v6.0, I've forgotten it this applies
> to earlier versions, I assume it does).
>
> Do you want to send over a sample DVI file to see if we can get it to work?
>
> Best wishes
>
> John
> HWA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Support for users of Y&Y's TeX system [mailto:YANDYTEX at LISTS.UCC.IE]
> On Behalf Of Ganz, Frank, SV USA
> Sent: 07 October 2004 17:37
> To: YANDYTEX at LISTS.UCC.IE
> Subject: Re: Paper sizes
>
> Dear Dominic,
>
> Are you actually saying that the text is cropped? In other words, the text
> isn't positioned correctly after cropping?
>
> If so, there are two ways of going about it:
>
> [1] c:\yandy\dvipsone\dvipsone -l=432*638 -x=<x> -y=<y> sample.dvi
>
>     where <x> and <y> could be determined by simply
>     measuring how much the text must be moved to get
>     the margins according to specs. They will most
>     likely be negative values.
>
> [2] Declare 6" x 9" as a papersize:
>
>         \DeclareOption{booktrim}
>            {\setlength\paperheight {9in}%
>             \setlength\paperwidth  {6in}}
>         \ExecuteOptions{booktrim}
>         \endinput
>
> You would want [2] to appear in a file you might call 6x9.sty and call it
> with a \usepackage{6x9}. The class file you are using usually defines paper
> sizes. You wouldn't want to override any of the standard class and style
> files.
>
> Hope this works for you.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: aqua [mailto:aqua at dlink.org]
> >Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:07 AM
> >To: YANDYTEX at LISTS.UCC.IE
> >Subject: Re: Paper sizes
> >
> >
> >Dear John,
> >
> >Thanks for your email.
> >
> >I tried the same and I am getting the same results. But my actual page
> >was placed in a bigger paper size.
> >
> >  In PDF Output:
> >  _______________
> >  |XXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
> >  |XXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
> >  |XXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
> >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
> >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
> >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
> >  |  6 x 9 in  |----------|--> visible in PDF2.667 x 4.778")
> > |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
> > |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|----> Bigger size (8.6 x 13.7 inches)  |_______
> > |______|
> >
> >Here MMM is my actual Pg size. But my paper size is "XXX".
> >
> >If needed I can send you a sample PDF file.
> >
> >Regards
> >Dominic
> >
> >   -------Original Message-------
> >   > From: John Hodgson <john at HWA.TO>
> >   > Subject: Re: Paper sizes
> >   > Sent: 04 Oct 2004 11:31:20
> >   >
> >   >  Dear Dominic
> >   >
> >   >  I use
> >   >
> >   >  dvipsone -d=destinationfile.ps -l=442*663 dvifile.dvi
> >   >
> >   >  The -l parameters here are for a UK book size 234x156 mm
> >   >
> >   >  This produces a postscript file which I then distill in Acrobat
> >Distiller;
> >   >  it comes out exactly the correct size
> >   >
> >   >  Or have I misunderstood your question??
> >   >
> >   >  Best wishes
> >   >
> >   >  John
> >   >
> >   >  John Hodgson
> >   >  HWA Text and Data Management Ltd
> >   >  12 Mount Ephraim
> >   >  Tunbridge Wells TN4 8AS
> >   >  United Kingdom
> >   >
> >   >  Tel: (+44)(0) 1892 678698
> >   >  Fax: (+44)(0) 1892 678697
> >   >
> >   >  Email john at hwa.to
> >   >
> >   >  -----Original Message-----
> >   >  From: Support for users of Y&Y's TeX system
> [mailto:YANDYTEX at LISTS.UCC.IE]
>    >  On Behalf Of aqua
>    >  Sent: 05 October 2004 11:32
>    >  To: YANDYTEX at LISTS.UCC.IE
>    >  Subject: Paper sizes
>    >
>    >  Hello Group,
>    >
>    >  I have placed the following messages in TUGIndia, regarding the Page
> Sizes
>    >  of LaTeX job. They have suggested me to write to Y&Y support directly.
>    >  Kindly advice me on this.
>    >
>    >  I have to get a PAGE SIZE of 6 x 9 inches. If I make the ps like this,
>    >
>    >    c:\yandy\dvipsone\dvipsone -l=432*638 -*P=432*638 sample.dvi
>    >
>    >  it is giving on bigger paper size (in PS 8.667 x 13.778 inches), and
> in the
>    >  PDF generation it is croping on right and top, and showing 6 x 9
> inches
>    >  exactly.
>    >
>    >
>    >  In PDF Output:
>    >  _______________
>    >  |XXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
>    >  |XXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
>    >  |XXXXXXXXXXXXXX|
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
>    >  |  6 x 9 in  |----------|--> visible in PDF2.667 x 4.778")
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|
>    >  |MMMMMM|XXXXXX|----> Bigger size (8.6 x 13.7 inches)
>    >  |_______ |______|
>    >
>    >
>    >  whereas as, I require only page size to be 6 x 9 inches without any
> cropped
>    >  areas in PDF. How to get this page size exactly.
>    >
>    >  Thanks in advance.
>    >
>    >  with regards,
>    >  Dominic
>    -------Original Message-------