font problems
Angela Partain
apartain at TRUEVINE.NET
Wed Apr 14 16:22:37 CEST 2004
Thanks so much, Christina! I'll go through all the information you sent and
will let you know if I can get this working.
All the best,
Angela
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Thiele" <cthiele at CCS.CARLETON.CA>
To: <YANDYTEX at LISTS.UCC.IE>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: font problems
> Angela Partain writes:
> >
> > Hello,
> > My problem has gone from bad to worse! I now realize that since I =
> > purchased the Y&Y Upgrade, I have been unable to typeset symbols that I
=
> > was previously able to typeset. They show up as blank spaces or =
> > Courier, so I have probably turned in several papers with incorrect =
> > symbols! For example, I always type a \square after each Proof, and now
=
> > it's leaving a blank there.=20
> >
> > I purchased the MathTime version of Y&Y, not the CM version. Does =
> > MathTime not include many of the symbols such as \square, \leqslant, =
> > (the list goes on and on of all the symbols I am unable to use)? Or did
=
> > I do something wrong in the installation? Do I need to purchase =
> > additional fonts to be able to type calligraphic letters or the \mathbb
=
> > (or \Bbb) fonts? The most puzzling thing about this is that I was able
=
> > to use most (or all) of the symbols before (not the calligraphic =
> > letters, however), but now I am not.=20
> >
> > Your assistance is very appreciated.
> > Best,
> > Angela
> >
>
>
> Hi, Angela. I'm going to take a few stabs here ;-)
>
> 1. You mention that this is an upgrade -- do you still have the
> previous installation CD? If yes, then go exploring and comparing
> with the newer one. You may well have the old CM fonts on hand.
>
> 2. I know that in the new CD there are some mathtime-related problems
> of files/packages that don't get properly installed/copied. They're
> on the CD but don't make it over to the yandy tree.
>
> I'm going to append three messages/texts which contain bits and pieces
> I've accummulated over time, to compensate for the glitches which have
> been accruing. See if there's anything in them that helps you out.
>
> The first is my own collection, the next two are collections of
> messages posted to the old support list, before yandytex.
>
> Ch.
>
> P.S. I'm _not_ going to do these as attachments, as I hate it
> when I can't see things right away in a mail message. It'll make
> this particular message messy but ...
>
> ====
>
> ** Collection #1 **
>
>
> ==== installation bugs with 2.2.8
>
> Bugs in current Y&YTeX install CD (CT experiences):
> =================================
>
> 1. During the final installation segment (to add additional packages
> from CTAN), an error message box pops up, complaining that the
> boites package cannot be found. This is because the package no
> longer exists on CTAN but the installation script for writing
> Y&YTeX CDs hasn't been updated and thus still wants to copy the
> file off the CD. A benign message -- just hit <return> and
> installation will finish.
>
>
> 2. DVIWindo's TeX menu is missing a `LaTeX' entry. To remedy, two
> edits (using an ASCII editor) must be made to the dviwindo.ini
> file, which resides in either c:\winnt or in c:\windows -- make
> sure to have your machine set up to display all (hidden) files and
> their extensions in order to locate the file.
>
> a. In the [Environment] section, add the following line:
>
> LATEX=c:\yandy\texinput;c:\yandy\tex\latex\\;c:\yandy\tex\base\\
>
> This is usually just above the BIBINPUT lines. This sets the
> path for LaTeX to find all its input files.
>
> b. In the [Applications] section, add the following line:
>
> LaTeX|F8=C:\YANDY\YANDYTEX\TEX.BAT +latex @.tex
> ^^
> This adds an entry in the TeX menu that you can pull down to
> process a LaTeX file. Make sure there is no duplication of
> F-key assignments ;-)
>
>
> c. If you want to also have access to old LaTeX 2.09, then add
> these two lines, to the two respective sections of the .ini
> file:
>
> i.
LPLAIN=c:\yandy\texinput;c:\yandy\tex\base\\;c:\yandy\tex\latex209\\
> ii. LaTeX 2.09|F7=C:\YANDY\YANDYTEX\TEX.BAT +lplain @.tex
> ^^
>
>
> 3. There are multiple locations for two different versions of the
> docstrip files:
>
> a. Docstrip.dtx ..\tex\latex\base 8/7/00
> b. Docstrip.ins ..\tex\latex\base 8/30/00
> c. docstrip.dtx ..\tex\latex\unpacked 8/7/00
> d. docstrip.ins ..\tex\latex\unpacked 8/30/00
> e. docstrip.tex ..\tex\latex\unpacked 9/5/00
> f. docstrip.tex ..\texinput 1/8/98
> g. docstrip.tex ..\yandytex\tex\texinput 1/8/98
>
> Delete all 1998 versions before processing any .ins files that
> require the docstrip package.
>
> [Robin, that the .ins and .dtx files don't have the same day in AUG
> 2000 is not important ... is it?]
>
>
> 4. The /graphics subfolder is incomplete. Locate:
>
> d:\CTAN\LaTeX\required\graphics
>
> and copy graphics.ins into
>
> c:\yandy\tex\latex\required\graphics
>
> Now process this file (`latex graphics.ins') watch it generate all
> the necessary files for graphics-related work.
>
>
> 5. In the same \graphics folder, again using an ASCII editor, create
> two config. files:
>
> a. graphics.cfg
> b. color.cfg
>
> The contents of both should be the following single line:
>
> \ExecuteOptions{dvipsone}
>
> As mentioned, these two files should be installed in
>
> c:\yandy\tex\latex\required\graphics
>
>
> 6. There are some left-over files from the BibTeX upgrade:
>
> a. bibtex.exe (172kb) is duplicated in c:\yandy\utils -- delete,
> once you've confirmed that it is also in the proper location of
> c:\yandy\bibtex
>
> b. if you need Acm.bst, you'll find it in texinput\bstinput; for
> ease of use, please move to bibtex\bst. The \bibtex\bstinput and
> bibtex\bibinput contents are otherwise identical to the old
> folders which may still be present in c:\yandy\texinput.
>
> ===== end of bug reports/fixes
>
> ======================================================================
>
> ** Collection #2 **
>
> ====
>
> >From Techsupport-owner at yandy.com Thu Feb 5 10:36:12 2004
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> Subject: Re: Further questions, and More installation trouble with WinXP
> To: Techsupport at yandy.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:32:19 -0500 (EST)
> In-Reply-To:
<Pine.GSO.4.05.10402040904280.13266-100000 at dracula.eng.buffalo.edu> from
"Jochen Autschbach" at Feb 04, 2004 09:23:58 AM
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> Jochen Autschbach writes:
> >
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > I found a number of other problems with the WinXP installation.
> > Basically, none of the packages in /yandy/tex/latex/required were
> > installed except for "Tools". Therefore, the times package could not be
> > found, among others. I had to manually copy the respective directories
> > "babel", graphics", "psnfss", "cyrillic", and "amslatex", from the CD
and
> > run latex on the *.ins files.
>
> ======================================================================
>
>
> ** Collection #3 **
>
>
>
> >From Techsupport-owner at yandy.com Mon Feb 2 17:39:35 2004
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> In-Reply-To:
<Pine.GSO.4.05.10402021608410.25301-100000 at ming.eng.buffalo.edu> from
"Jochen Autschbach" at Feb 02, 2004 04:25:12 PM
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>
> Oh, the 'famous' `corrupted NFSS' message ;-((
>
> I'm afraid I can only give you copies of mail which discuss this
> problem and its solution -- I'm kind of pressed for time right
> now. But the problem has come up, and has been solved.
>
> Please read the appended large collection of messages (4 in all but my
> goodness, when I reply, I don't do it economically, I'm afraid!).
>
> Anyways, there are bits and pieces throughout the messages which
> should get you unstuck.
>
> What I'd really really like is if someone -- or perhaps even you ;-)
> -- could weed through all the verbiage and perhaps come up with a
> step-by-step instruction set on how to get things straightened out.
>
> I've recently put out a call for such collating/collapsing of
> techsupport messages, to come up with new FAQs.
>
> If you're so inclined, please post here -- we're got a great bunch of
> people on techsupport who can probably test out your steps and
> confirm/adjust where necessary.
>
> I'm going to leave your message intact, here, and then at the end of
> it, I'll add the other four.
>
> As for a techsupport archive of mail ... unfortunately, no. We don't
> have it set up that way. At least, not yet. We're in touch with
> someone about possibly getting a proper LISTSERV list going, and
> getting all past mail messages sorted into something searchable.
>
> But for now, this is the best I can do. Sorry ...
>
> Ch.
>
> ======== Here's Jochen's message for help:
>
> Jochen Autschbach writes:
> >
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > I hope someone out there knows how to fix these problems:
> >
> > I just installed YandY's MathTime "Complete" Tex system on my Windows XP
> > system for the first time. I did _not_ install ATM.
> >
> > It doesn't seem to work. There are a number of (probably related)
> > problems. When I try to view the MathTime example
> > c:\yandy\texinput\hello_MT.dvi with DVIWindo I get an error box titled
> > "WINANAL" saying "Can't get TeX metrics at byte 452".
> >
> > I copied the LateX file "hello_MT.tex" to "test.tex", loaded it into
> > WinEdt and tried to generate the DVI. The output is listed at the end of
> > this email.
> >
> > If I try to LaTeX any of my own files, or even a small test LaTeX file
> > with just one word (no math), DVIWindo complains about missing fonts.
This
> > seems to be the same problem as was address earlier today by Roger
Cooke.
> >
> > Presumably something went wrong with the installation. But what?
> >
> > Is there an archive of this mailing list available somewhere?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jochen
> >
> > C:\yandy\TEXINPUT
> > C:\yandy\yandytex\tex.bat +latex "test.tex"
> > Y&Y TeX 2.2.4 2001 Sep 14 07:07:38 SN 5046
> > Copyright (C) 1993--2001 Y&Y, Inc. http://www.YandY.com
> > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Y&Y TeX 2.2.4)
> > (test.tex
> > LaTeX2e <2000/06/01>
> > (c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/article.cls
> > Document Class: article 2000/05/19 v1.4b Standard LaTeX document class
> > (c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/size10.clo))
> > (c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/fontenc.sty
> > (c:/yandy/tex/latex/contrib/supported/psnfssx/ly1/ly1enc.def)
> >
> > LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `LY1/ptm/m/n' undefined
> > (Font) using `LY1/ptm/m/n' instead on input line 96.
> >
> > ! Corrupted NFSS tables.
> > wrong at fontshape ...message {Corrupted NFSS tables}
> > error at fontshape else
let
> > f...
> >
> > c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/fontenc.sty(96) : ...t
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------
> > Dr. Jochen Autschbach
> >
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Chemistry
> > University at Buffalo
> > State University of New York
> > 312 Natural Sciences Complex
> > Buffalo, NY 14260-3000
> >
> > EMail : jochena at buffalo.edu
> > Phone : (+01)-716-645-6800 ext. 2086
> > FAX : (+01)-716-645-6963
> > WWW : http://www.chem.buffalo.edu/Autschbach
> > http://www.nsm.buffalo.edu/~jochena
> > -----------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> ======== Here are the 4 messages about `corrupted NFSS...':
>
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> Subject: Re: cmr and mt problems under Win2k
> To: Techsupport at yandy.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:17:38 -0400 (EDT)
> In-Reply-To: <3F537053.5000105 at usc.edu> from "Dan Erwin" at Sep 01, 2003
09:14:11 AM
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> Dan Erwin writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I took delivery on a full TeX with Mathtime system and installed it
> > under Windows 2000 Professional. (CD volume label YandY_MTX, serial
> > number 5010, invoice number 3808). This order was several months ago --
> > I stopped trying to use it after sending essentially this email to
> > support at yandy.com and getting no reply. Now I'm trying again.
>
> Glad you tried again. The address `support at yandy.com' has pretty much
> been phased out even though the documentation still carries it in
> various places. The outside cover of your manuals should have a
> sticker with the new address, though.
>
> Now, one thing that's really different in `techsupport' for Y&Y
> products is that where `support at yandy.com' used to go to just one
> in-house person (so it was ok to include serial and invoice numbers
> then), mail sent to `techsupport at yandy.com' goes to a mailing list of
> subscribed users -- not in-house at all. So we'll just all ignore that
> info that you sent out ;-)
>
> There's a small core of support people like myself you try to answer
> questions, but we only know so much. The rest of the users out here
> have tons of experience in a lot of areas where we often don't go
> ... like generating pdf files, or inserting fantastic numbers of
> graphic files, or whatever. So it's a collective help group you've got
> here on-line.
>
>
> Now, this very problem you describe came up in early June with someone
> on this list, and I've just gone through the mail again to see what
> the causes were. The error messages were so familiar ...
>
>
> > First, the installation scripts are not quite in sync with what's on the
> > CD, so if you try to have the Latex installer copy all the packages to
> > the hard drive, it aborts because it tries to copy
> > ctan\latex\contrib\other\boites\boites.sty, which is not on the CD.
>
> Yes, we've encountered this one before. The boites package is
> available on CTAN, so if you need it, you can find it there. The
> package name apparently is not in the installation/CD-writing script
> that's used (for whatever reason, it's missing) and so the
> installation spits out that error message during the CTAN portion of
> the installation routine we go through.
>
> Oh, by the way, when I encountered this, and got to the end of my
> installation, I found that there was no `LaTeX' entry in my DVIWindo
> TeX menu (you know, the pull-down menu that also lists which function
> keys will do what). Anyways, check that it has a `LaTeX' entry,
> usually tied to the F8 key. If yes, then that niggle isn't yours ;-)
> If not, let us know and we'll send you the necessary info to fix it.
>
> > Second, I find that the plain old cmr files are not installed, and in
> > fact don't appear anywhere on the installation CD. So I can latex
> > "hello_cm.tex" but cannot preview it.
>
> Yes, well ... the CM fonts have to be explicitly specified and
> purchased. Is it possible you didn't request them? If you have them
> from a previous Y&YTeX version, then locate your old CD, and install
> AS PER INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE NEW VERSION (I emphasise, because
> installation instructions are quite different between Win95/98/NT and
> Win2000/XP.
>
> > Third, and most important (since it is really MT that I want), I cannot
> > latex "hello_mt.tex" because of corruption errors in NFSS (TeX output
> > appears below).
>
> Yes, the error message you describe is known. Here's what needs to be
> done. First, plop that CD back into your machine and have Explorer
> ready to look at both its contents and those in c:\yandy.
>
> > So for the moment I am dead in the water and would appreciate any
> > suggestions you might have. If the problems will be fixed with a current
> > install CD, you might drop one in the mail to me -- I can be trusted to
> > return the old one should you wish it.
>
> The fixes take less time than the mail ;-) So here goes. This is taken
> from mail from early June on what the other user did. I've going to
> use double >>, to distinguish his text from yours:
>
> >> Could not find the mathtime.sty or times.sty, so went to the CD
> >> ROM:\MATHPLUS\PSNFSS directory, copied everything to my
> >> C:\YANDY\TEX\LATEX directory and ran Latex on mathtime.ins. This
> >> created additional files, but not a times.sty, which appeared to be
> >> the only missing file according to latax's complaints. This, I found
> >> in the yyadd.zip file in the demo directory of the CD-ROM (search
> >> reported it was in the PSNFSS directory, but this did not exist on the
> >> ROM and crashed explorer when I tried to copy the found file -
> >> strange). Anyway, with these files in place the file compiles and can
> >> be viewed by dviwindo. The remaining odd part is the numerous warning
> >> messages in the log file, as sample of which is:
> >>
> >> (c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/fontenc.sty
> >> Package: fontenc 2000/08/30 v1.91 Standard LaTeX package
> >> (C:/YANDY/TEX/LATEX/ly1enc.def
> >> File: ly1enc.def 1997/03/21 v0.3 Y\&Y's texnansi encoding (DPC))
> >> LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for LY1+ptm on
> >> input line 96.
> >> (C:/YANDY/TEX/LATEX/ly1ptm.fd
> >> File: ly1ptm.fd 1997/01/26 LY1/ptm (Times Roman) with Adobe file
> >> names. (DPC) )) (C:/YANDY/TEX/LATEX/mathtime.sty
> >> Package: mathtime 1997/10/10 v1.0e mathtime font support (FMi/DPC)
> >> LaTeX Font Warning: Encoding `OT1' has changed to `LY1' for symbol font
> >> (Font) `operators' in the math version `normal' on input
line 73.
> >> LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `operators' in version
> >> `normal' (Font) OT1/cmr/m/n --> LY1/ptm/m/n on
> >> input line 73.
> >> LaTeX Font Warning: Encoding `OML' has changed to `MY1' for symbol
> >> font (Font) `letters' in the math version `normal' on
> >> input line 74.
>
> and so on and so forth.
>
> Note that the above are ONLY warning messages -- that is,
> informational. They do not stop processing, which is what error
> messages do. The best reference I've found on understanding error and
> warning messages is Kopka and Daly's _A Guide to LaTeX2e_ (2nd
> ed). However, there's now a 3rd edition (so it may not even have that
> `2e' appended to `LaTeX' anymore) which obviously is a newer version
> to acquired. Anywys, it's got a section on font error messages and
> another on font warnings. I think the upshot is that OT1 get converted
> to LY1, which is the Y&Y encoding. But the font-savvy on this list
> will know much better -- and corrections to anything idiotic I say
> will come swiftly ;-) So we'll both learn ...
>
> Now, back to locating potentially missing materials. Here's more on
> the fonts, again the text with wedges ( >> ) in front are the user, and
> my replies at that time are prefixed with ++ signs:
>
> >> Now for font locations. I did a search for mtex and found the
> >> following:
> >> mtex.pfb and mtex.pfm both in c:\WINNT\Fonts
> >> mtex.tfm in c:\yandy\fonts\nontext\tfm-mt
> >> the c:\winnt\fonts directory has all of the .pfm fonts that are on
> >> the installation disk, but I noticed it does not have any of the
> >> .pfb files that are on the installation disk. However, it sounds
> >> like these are not needed.
>
> ++ Oh, I do believe they _are_ needed. On p.4 of the Technical Addendum
> ++ (the bigger manual), I find this:
> ++
> ++ On the Windows Platform, a Type 1 font consists of two files:
> ++
> ++ PFB ...
> ++
> ++ PFM ...
> ++
> ++ So now that we know you need 'em, maybe the problem is that they're in
> ++ a place dviwindo.ini doesn't know about. It's Sunday morning ... I'm
> ++ supposed to be doing family stuff not this. So this is about all I cal
> ++ do right now. But have a read through some of this fonts stuff and
> ++ check that your .pfbs are in a place that dvipsone can find them.
> ++
> ++ But it does sound like we're making progress, overall ... a bit, no?
> ++ Perhaps? ;-))
>
> >> Is the "corrupted NFSS tables." message in the YANDYTEX DOS box
> >> during texing significant? There was an initial problem with my
> >> CD-ROM CTAN installation, but I was sent a new CD-ROM with this
> >> fixed. This may be unrelated but could be a piece of the puzzle.
>
> ++ Maybe. I'd like to defer this part of your query to Robin, as he's
> ++ more familiar with nfss things than I.
>
> >> Thanks again.
>
> ++ And thank you for your patience!
>
> =====
>
> If there are any updates or further information anyone has to pass on
> to Dan, I'm sure he'd really appreciate it.
>
> Ch.
>
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> Subject: Re: LaTeX - lucidabr
> To: alpaydin at boun.edu.tr
> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:05:25 -0500 (EST)
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> Looks what happens when you're pressed ;-( You forget to append stuff.
>
> Anyways, here's the 2 Sept reply I was trying to pass on.
>
> Ch.
>
> ====
>
> [...]
>
> From: Christina Thiele <cthiele at ccs.carleton.ca>
> [...]
> Subject: Re: cmr and mt problems under Win2k
> To: Techsupport at yandy.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:17:38 -0400 (EDT)
> [...]
>
>
> Dan Erwin writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I took delivery on a full TeX with Mathtime system and installed it
> > under Windows 2000 Professional. (CD volume label YandY_MTX, serial
> > number 5010, invoice number 3808). This order was several months ago --
> > I stopped trying to use it after sending essentially this email to
> > support at yandy.com and getting no reply. Now I'm trying again.
>
> Glad you tried again. The address `support at yandy.com' has pretty much
> been phased out even though the documentation still carries it in
> various places. The outside cover of your manuals should have a
> sticker with the new address, though.
>
> Now, one thing that's really different in `techsupport' for Y&Y
> products is that where `support at yandy.com' used to go to just one
> in-house person (so it was ok to include serial and invoice numbers
> then), mail sent to `techsupport at yandy.com' goes to a mailing list of
> subscribed users -- not in-house at all. So we'll just all ignore that
> info that you sent out ;-)
>
> There's a small core of support people like myself you try to answer
> questions, but we only know so much. The rest of the users out here
> have tons of experience in a lot of areas where we often don't go
> ... like generating pdf files, or inserting fantastic numbers of
> graphic files, or whatever. So it's a collective help group you've got
> here on-line.
>
>
> Now, this very problem you describe came up in early June with someone
> on this list, and I've just gone through the mail again to see what
> the causes were. The error messages were so familiar ...
>
>
> > First, the installation scripts are not quite in sync with what's on the
> > CD, so if you try to have the Latex installer copy all the packages to
> > the hard drive, it aborts because it tries to copy
> > ctan\latex\contrib\other\boites\boites.sty, which is not on the CD.
>
> Yes, we've encountered this one before. The boites package is
> available on CTAN, so if you need it, you can find it there. The
> package name apparently is not in the installation/CD-writing script
> that's used (for whatever reason, it's missing) and so the
> installation spits out that error message during the CTAN portion of
> the installation routine we go through.
>
> Oh, by the way, when I encountered this, and got to the end of my
> installation, I found that there was no `LaTeX' entry in my DVIWindo
> TeX menu (you know, the pull-down menu that also lists which function
> keys will do what). Anyways, check that it has a `LaTeX' entry,
> usually tied to the F8 key. If yes, then that niggle isn't yours ;-)
> If not, let us know and we'll send you the necessary info to fix it.
>
> > Second, I find that the plain old cmr files are not installed, and in
> > fact don't appear anywhere on the installation CD. So I can latex
> > "hello_cm.tex" but cannot preview it.
>
> Yes, well ... the CM fonts have to be explicitly specified and
> purchased. Is it possible you didn't request them? If you have them
> from a previous Y&YTeX version, then locate your old CD, and install
> AS PER INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE NEW VERSION (I emphasise, because
> installation instructions are quite different between Win95/98/NT and
> Win2000/XP.
>
> > Third, and most important (since it is really MT that I want), I cannot
> > latex "hello_mt.tex" because of corruption errors in NFSS (TeX output
> > appears below).
>
> Yes, the error message you describe is known. Here's what needs to be
> done. First, plop that CD back into your machine and have Explorer
> ready to look at both its contents and those in c:\yandy.
>
> > So for the moment I am dead in the water and would appreciate any
> > suggestions you might have. If the problems will be fixed with a current
> > install CD, you might drop one in the mail to me -- I can be trusted to
> > return the old one should you wish it.
>
> The fixes take less time than the mail ;-) So here goes. This is taken
> from mail from early June on what the other user did. I've going to
> use double >>, to distinguish his text from yours:
>
> >> Could not find the mathtime.sty or times.sty, so went to the CD
> >> ROM:\MATHPLUS\PSNFSS directory, copied everything to my
> >> C:\YANDY\TEX\LATEX directory and ran Latex on mathtime.ins. This
> >> created additional files, but not a times.sty, which appeared to be
> >> the only missing file according to latax's complaints. This, I found
> >> in the yyadd.zip file in the demo directory of the CD-ROM (search
> >> reported it was in the PSNFSS directory, but this did not exist on the
> >> ROM and crashed explorer when I tried to copy the found file -
> >> strange). Anyway, with these files in place the file compiles and can
> >> be viewed by dviwindo. The remaining odd part is the numerous warning
> >> messages in the log file, as sample of which is:
> >>
> >> (c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/fontenc.sty
> >> Package: fontenc 2000/08/30 v1.91 Standard LaTeX package
> >> (C:/YANDY/TEX/LATEX/ly1enc.def
> >> File: ly1enc.def 1997/03/21 v0.3 Y\&Y's texnansi encoding (DPC))
> >> LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for LY1+ptm on
> >> input line 96.
> >> (C:/YANDY/TEX/LATEX/ly1ptm.fd
> >> File: ly1ptm.fd 1997/01/26 LY1/ptm (Times Roman) with Adobe file
> >> names. (DPC) )) (C:/YANDY/TEX/LATEX/mathtime.sty
> >> Package: mathtime 1997/10/10 v1.0e mathtime font support (FMi/DPC)
> >> LaTeX Font Warning: Encoding `OT1' has changed to `LY1' for symbol font
> >> (Font) `operators' in the math version `normal' on input
line 73.
> >> LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `operators' in version
> >> `normal' (Font) OT1/cmr/m/n --> LY1/ptm/m/n on
> >> input line 73.
> >> LaTeX Font Warning: Encoding `OML' has changed to `MY1' for symbol
> >> font (Font) `letters' in the math version `normal' on
> >> input line 74.
>
> and so on and so forth.
>
> Note that the above are ONLY warning messages -- that is,
> informational. They do not stop processing, which is what error
> messages do. The best reference I've found on understanding error and
> warning messages is Kopka and Daly's _A Guide to LaTeX2e_ (2nd
> ed). However, there's now a 3rd edition (so it may not even have that
> `2e' appended to `LaTeX' anymore) which obviously is a newer version
> to acquired. Anywys, it's got a section on font error messages and
> another on font warnings. I think the upshot is that OT1 get converted
> to LY1, which is the Y&Y encoding. But the font-savvy on this list
> will know much better -- and corrections to anything idiotic I say
> will come swiftly ;-) So we'll both learn ...
>
> Now, back to locating potentially missing materials. Here's more on
> the fonts, again the text with wedges ( >> ) in front are the user, and
> my replies at that time are prefixed with ++ signs:
>
> >> Now for font locations. I did a search for mtex and found the
> >> following:
> >> mtex.pfb and mtex.pfm both in c:\WINNT\Fonts
> >> mtex.tfm in c:\yandy\fonts\nontext\tfm-mt
> >> the c:\winnt\fonts directory has all of the .pfm fonts that are on
> >> the installation disk, but I noticed it does not have any of the
> >> .pfb files that are on the installation disk. However, it sounds
> >> like these are not needed.
>
> ++ Oh, I do believe they _are_ needed. On p.4 of the Technical Addendum
> ++ (the bigger manual), I find this:
> ++
> ++ On the Windows Platform, a Type 1 font consists of two files:
> ++
> ++ PFB ...
> ++
> ++ PFM ...
> ++
> ++ So now that we know you need 'em, maybe the problem is that they're in
> ++ a place dviwindo.ini doesn't know about. It's Sunday morning ... I'm
> ++ supposed to be doing family stuff not this. So this is about all I cal
> ++ do right now. But have a read through some of this fonts stuff and
> ++ check that your .pfbs are in a place that dvipsone can find them.
> ++
> ++ But it does sound like we're making progress, overall ... a bit, no?
> ++ Perhaps? ;-))
>
> >> Is the "corrupted NFSS tables." message in the YANDYTEX DOS box
> >> during texing significant? There was an initial problem with my
> >> CD-ROM CTAN installation, but I was sent a new CD-ROM with this
> >> fixed. This may be unrelated but could be a piece of the puzzle.
>
> ++ Maybe. I'd like to defer this part of your query to Robin, as he's
> ++ more familiar with nfss things than I.
>
> >> Thanks again.
>
> ++ And thank you for your patience!
>
> =====
>
> If there are any updates or further information anyone has to pass on
> to Dan, I'm sure he'd really appreciate it.
>
> Ch.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From Techsupport-owner at yandy.com Mon Nov 17 04:53:08 2003
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> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:46:22 +0200
> From: Ethem Alpaydin <alpaydin at boun.edu.tr>
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> Subject: Re: LaTeX - lucidabr
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> Christina,
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> 1. I created a new directory lucidabr under yandy\tex\latex
> 2. I copied all the files from cdrom:\lucidabr\psnfss to this new
directory
> 3. LaTex'd lucidabr.yy in this new directory
>
> and now it works.
>
> -Ethem
>
> Christina Thiele wrote:
>
> > I see this problem hasn't yet had a response. The NFSS corrupted bit
> > was so familiar, however, that I've gone back through old mail to find
> > it. In early Sept., a member of the techsupport forum posted a similar
> > problem, and my reply was to forward a commented reply that I'd sent
> > to someone else earlier on ;-)
> >
> > So, as I'm pressed -- and you haven't had a reply -- here's that Sept
> > reply. I hope you can sift through the various levels of replies.
> >
> > Ch.
> >
> > P.S. I'm cc'ing this to you directly, in case you aren't yet a member
> > of the forum. All replies normally only go to the techsupport
> > forum, to not only let others know how a problem's been solved,
> > but also to act as a kind of resource archive. So, if you aren't
> > yet subscribed to techsupport, please do so! And let us know if
> > the suggestions work!
> >
> > ======
> >
> > Ethem Alpaydin writes:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have Y&Y Tex 2.2 CM + lucida that I have just bought and installed on
> >>my Windows 2000.
> >>
> >>When I LaTeX hello_lb.tex, I get the error message I quote below. I have
> >>no problem with TeX or LaTeX 2.09 and can use lucida with them without
> >>any problem, by \input'ing lcdlatex. I have no problem when I LaTeX
> >>hello_cm either.
> >>
> >>I'll appreciate your help.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>-Ethem
> >>
> >>The error message is:
> >>
> >>This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Y&Y TeX 2.2.4)
> >>(C:/texinputs/hello_LB.tex
> >>LaTeX2e <2000/06/01>
> >>(c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/article.cls
> >>Document Class: article 2000/05/19 v1.4b Standard LaTeX document class
> >>(c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/size10.clo))
> >>(c:/yandy/tex/latex/unpacked/fontenc.sty
> >>(c:/yandy/tex/latex/contrib/supported/psnfssx/ly1/ly1enc.def)
> >>
> >>LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `LY1/ptm/m/n' undefined
> >>(Font) using `LY1/ptm/m/n' instead on input line 96.
> >>
> >>! Corrupted NFSS tables.
> >>wrong at fontshape ...message {Corrupted NFSS tables}
> >> error at fontshape else
> >>let f...
> >>l.96 \fontencoding\encodingdefault\selectfont
> >>
> >>?
> >>
> >>---
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ===============
> > ===============
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> >From Techsupport-owner at yandy.com Mon Nov 17 09:03:15 2003
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> To: Techsupport at yandy.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:59:57 -0500 (EST)
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> Ethem Alpaydin writes:
> >
> > Christina,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >
> > 1. I created a new directory lucidabr under yandy\tex\latex
> > 2. I copied all the files from cdrom:\lucidabr\psnfss to this new
directory
> > 3. LaTex'd lucidabr.yy in this new directory
> >
> > and now it works.
> >
> > -Ethem
>
> I'm absolutely delighted to hear this!
>
> And I see that your instructions are sooo much more succinct than mine
> ;-) Now that your reply is here in techsupport, it'll be part of
> everyone's `collection' of mail, as it were, so we can refer to it in
> future.
>
> Many thanks for having replied with the details of what you did. It
> will be a great help for the next person who posts about corrupted
> NFSS stuff ;-)
>
> Ch.
>
>
> >
> > > ...
>
> P.S. I'm cc'ing this to you directly, as I don't know if you're a
> forum member yet or not.
>
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> "corrupt nfss tables" seem in all these cases to be because
>
> -- times/ly1 encoding is defined as default ("error") font
> -- times/ly1 is selected as current text font
> -- latex looks for ly1ptm.fd so it can use the text font
> -- latex can't find it: this is an error, so it tries to select the
> error font, but it can't do that either -- this is "corruption"
>
> the solution is presumably to find ly1ptm.fd somewhere and stick it with
> ly1enc.fd on your hard disc. there are copies, on my disc, in
>
> /mnt/cdrom/mathplus/PSNFSS/ly1ptm.fd
> /mnt/cdrom/mathtime/PSNFSS/ly1ptm.fd
>
> (sorry, i've stuck my cd in a unix machine -- /mnt/cdrom is the cd
> drive)
>
> give it a try and see if it solves the problem.
>
> robin (who ought to have spotted this before...sorry, folks)
>
>
> >From cthiele Mon Feb 2 21:38:39 2004
> Subject: Re: installation trouble, WinXP
> To: Techsupport at yandy.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 21:38:39 -0500 (EST)
> In-Reply-To:
<Pine.GSO.4.05.10402021850440.25301-100000 at ming.eng.buffalo.edu> from
"Jochen Autschbach" at Feb 02, 2004 07:12:25 PM
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> Jochen Autschbach writes:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the replies so far. Following some of the advice I copied the
> > content of the directories /mathtime/PSNFSS and mathplus/PSNFSS on the
CD
> > to c:\yandy\TEX\LATEX\PSNFSS and latex'ed mathtime.ins.
> > At least now I can latex the example c:\yandy\TEXINPUT\hello_MT.tex.
>
> Well, that's one down ;-)
>
> > However, I still don't get DVIWINDO to show anything because it always
> > comes up with the already mentioned errors. I could not find any .pfm or
> > .pfb files in c:\yandy\ except for FONTS/PFM/mh2scr__.pfm.
> > The MathTime .pfm files are in c:\WINDOWS\Fonts. Perhaps the problem is
> > due to missing information from the .pfb files?
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> Did you install the MathTime fonts from the CD's mathtime folder? That
> is, the PSNFSS stuff is one issue, but the fonts are another. If you
> do a search on your c-drive (not just c:\yandy), you should find the
> .pfb and .pfm files under c:\windows if installation went ok.
>
> Next thing: check your dviwindo.ini file, which is in the c:\windows
> folder. Check that you've got all the paths set up -- look in the
> smaller manual and the technical addendum for details on a lot of the
> lines that you'll find in the .ini file.
>
> And of course, you can always reboot to see if that sorts things out
> ;-)
>
> Finally ... while it's not clear why this works, more than one person
> on this list has reported that re-installing Y&YTeX itself sometimes
> gets things sorted out. Not the fonts, just Y&YTeX.
>
> But I'd first check my c:\windows folder for the .pfb and .pfm files;
> and then check the CD to confirm that there's a mathtime folder, and
> that it's the one you accessed via the Control Panel to install the MT
> fonts.
>
> Ch.
>
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