MSAM/MSBM fonts [was: Re: font installation in Windows 2000]

[LMS journals]

WOW!!!

I'll have to do some detective work, so don't worry if you don't hear from
me for a bit (deadlines also looming again), but thanks a million for all
that.  I WILL give you some feedback when I have it.

Thanks again and all the best

Sue

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Techsupport-owner at yandy.com
> [mailto:Techsupport-owner at yandy.com] On Behalf Of Christina Thiele
> Sent: 30 September 2003 01:34
> To: Techsupport at yandy.com
> Subject: MSAM/MSBM fonts [was: Re: font installation in Windows 2000]
>
>
> Sorry for the delay in getting back with some info.
>
> Here's the info that I've been gathering from some other
> members of the support team. I figured I'd try to consolidate
> the details in one message, so here goes. Any errors or other
> mis-steps will be swiftly fixed, I'm sure ;-)
>
>
> The MSAM/MSBM fonts are available either in public or commercial
> forms: from Y&Y, they're included in the `AMS' folder that
> you have on your CD, provided you bought them.
>
> If you didn't buy the AMS fonts, then you have some other
> choices: either use a workaround from the amsfonts package,
> or acquire public versions of the missing sizes ... but you
> should check that their quality matches that of your
> Y&Y-purchased fonts. You didn't mention in your initial post
> where you'd acquired the MSAM/MSBM files from ... If the
> Bakoma set, see below for comments.
>
>
> 1. The amsfonts package has an option to cope with the absence of
>    several sizes: the amsfonts.dtx file mentions the psamsfonts
>    option. This option assumes the presence of only msam<5,7,10> (and
>    similarly for msbm and the regular and bold euler fonts*).
>    However, it may give different line and page breaks if it's
>    invoked after something has been run with all sizes of the fonts
>    rather than just the 5, 7, and 10pt versions scaled as needed. That
>    is, if it's used, it should be used from the very beginning.
>
>    *Page 254 of the revised chap8 to _The Companion_, near the end of
>     section 8.6.6, describes the amsfonts package (as well as
>     amssymb, which loads amsfonts). It says that it:
>
>       ... defines the \mathfrak and \mathbb commands and sets up the
>       fonts msam (extra math symbols A) and msbm (extra math symbols
>       B), eufm (Euler Fraktur), extra sizes of cmmib (bold math italic
>       and bold lowercase Greek), and cmbsy (bold math symbols and bold
>       script), for use in mathematics.
>
>    All these packages recognise the [psamsfonts] option, which will
>    use the Y&Y/Blue Sky Research version of the AMSFonts collection
>    (which is freely available on CTAN).
>
>
> 2. You can acquire the public BlueSky fonts (Type 1) but they don't
>    contain several of the ms* font sizes -- 6, 8 and 9pt. The
>    [psamsfonts] workaround can deal with that. You can get the fonts
>    from CTAN but you should take the whole .zip file and then pull out
>    the relevant files:
>
>       fonts/amsfonts/ps-type1/amsps-pc.zip
>
>    The fonts are of course also available directly from the AMS
>    website -- see here for details:
>
>       http://www.ams.org/tex/amsfonts.html
>
>
> 3. There is another Type 1 collection that includes the ms* fonts at
>    all sizes -- Bakoma -- but there are some issues to consider:
>       - there are restrictions on using it commercially (this
>         includes publication of journals by scientific societies)
>       - the quality isn't as good as the BlueSky/Y&Y versions
>
>    The general feeling seems to be that, if it's the case that your
>    MSAM/MSBM font files came from the bakoma collection, you'd be
>    better off deleting them before you proceed with adding the other
>    versions.
>
>
> So it's not a matter of re-installing Y&YTeX but simply a
> fonts issue. Or so it sounds ;-)
>
> Ch.
>
>
>
>
>
> LMS journals writes:
> >
> > Dear All
> >
> > I've been watching the recent comments on font
> installation, having at
> > last had a chance to come back to "housekeeping" (as distinct from
> > "firefighting"...), and also now trying to use JUST the 2K machine,
> > and not my steam-driven '95.
> >
> > Last week I needed MSAM8 and MSAM9, also MSBM5, MSBM8 and
> MSBM9 for a
> > paper. I have fetched the PFM and PFB files, and installed
> the fonts
> > using the "Control panel" route (i.e., not just drag-and
> drop).  The
> > "installing fonts" progress bar worked fine. I have also
> put TFM files
> > for the fonts in the directory where my other AMS fonts TFM
> files are
> > (c:\yandy\fonts\tfm\nontext\tfm-ams). They have the same
> date-stamp as
> > the TFMs for my existing AMS fonts (including other sizes
> of the same
> > fonts). I couldn't, however, find any AFM files for the new
> font sizes
> > on the CTAN site.
> >
> > The new fonts now show up in c:\winnt\fonts, with all the
> rest (only
> > difference is that their names are in lower-case; the fonts
> that are
> > "happy" are in upper-case; I tried renaming them in case
> something was
> > case-specific, but wasn't allowed to do it by Windows). I have got
> > "Ignorebadinstall=1" in my .ini file.
> > I have run "setupttf".
> >
> > The new fonts do NOT show up on the list of fonts in dviwindo, so I
> > can't use  "Write AFM". I get a Courier substitute on-screen in
> > DVIWindo, and constant "pings" if I switch on "Complain missing
> > fonts". BUT they print out fine!!!  I get a warning message "no
> > ATMREG.ATM" (which I always get, and was told at some point earlier
> > not to worry about because of having 2K -- see below), and an error
> > message for each of the new fonts: "expecting number not `dup'".
> > Nevertheless, the printing goes through.
> >
> > Which is a relief when it comes to sending author proofs
> and pubishing
> > the papers, but a massive bind for editing/proofreading...
> >
> > I don't have any sort of version of ATM -- my understanding
> was that
> > it is not needed for 2K.
> >
> > The difference from the successful installation of xypic a
> couple of
> > months ago seems to be the AFM files, which I managed to
> find in that
> > case -- or is there something else I'm missing here???
> >
> > ??????????
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Sue
> >
> >
> >
>