More from Antoniou: That Win2000 font problem

[Christina Thiele]

Below is my reply to a message Antoniou sent yesterday. I'm
re-inserting the opening portions (to which I had no comments, but
which are needed here for completeness).

Ch.

====   the deleted opening portion of Antoniou's message:

> Christina,
>
> 1. Following your above email, I have changed the PATH entry for Type
> 1 fonts in file dviwindo.ini to read as follows:
>
> PSFONTS=C:\WINNT\Fonts
>
> 2.  I have dragged the fonts in E:\psfonts (the installation CD) to
>
> C:\WINNT\Fonts
>
> The pfm files are installed (the icons of these font show a red "a", I
> guess, for Adobe, as opposed to two superimposed T's for TrueType).
> When you click on a TrueType font icon, Windows 2000 will list the
> font, as you know.  However, if I click on the icon of a Type 1 pfm
> font, nothing happens.  Strangely, these fonts are accessible by other
> applications, e.g., Illustrator 10.  See sample file attached.
>
> NOTE: The pfb fonts will NOT install when I dragged them from the
> installation CD into the fonts folder.  Windows considers them to be
> corrupt and I get a diagnostic to that effect.  I think pfb files are
> not acceptable in the fonts folder.
>

Then carry on with my reply to him on points 3 to 5. I had also come
to the same question: if ATM isn't needed for font installation with
v.2.2, what role does it play/must it play after installation?

Ch.

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Forwarded message:
> From cthiele Thu Mar 27 11:18:09 2003
> Subject: Re: That Win2000 font problem
> To: aantoniou at shaw.ca (Andreas Antoniou)
> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:18:09 -0500 (EST)
> Cc: techsupport at yandy.com (techsupport)
> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030326130401.034fada0 at shawmail.gv.shawcable.net> from "Andreas Antoniou" at Mar 26, 2003 02:14:56 PM
> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5]
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>
> Andreas Antoniou writes:
> >
> > ...
> > >(3) It should be possible to install the fonts properly without ATM
> > >     using either the item on the pop-up menu from the CD --- or using
> > >     "Start > Settings > Control Panel > Fonts" and then "File >
> > >     Install Fonts" (It is best to just let it copy the files to the
> > >     "fonts" folder under the "windows" folder).
> > >
> > >(4) You *cannot* "install" fonts by copying them to some random folder
> > >     (such as c:\psfonts). Key to proper font installation is the
> > >     creation of appropriate entries in the registry. This happens when
> > >     you (i) use the installation procedure on the CD, or (ii) when you
> > >     use the above mentioned "Start > Settings > Control Panel > Fonts"
> > >     etc. method or (iii) if you use ATM 4.1
> > >
> > >(5) Be careful with the font folder. It is a so-called active folder.
> > >     For example, when you look at it from say "My Computer" you do
> > >     *not* see what files are in it --- instead you see information
> > >     constructed from the registry.  Again: do not try and manipulate
> > >     this folder -- or font files --- directly.  Always use proper
> > >     installation procedures (of which three alternatives are outlined
> > >     above).
> >
> > Christina,
> >
> > 1. Following your above email, I have changed the PATH entry for Type 1
> > fonts in file dviwindo.ini to read as follows:
> >
> > PSFONTS=C:\WINNT\Fonts
>
> OK. Good.
>
>
> > 2.  I have dragged the fonts in E:\psfonts (the installation CD) to
>
> `Dragged' the fonts? I'm leery of that, Andreas. Could you do it via
> the install menu that pops up when you insert the Y&YTeX CD? There's a
> menu item for installing the fonts. I'm not sure that dragging is
> quite the right method ...
>
> > ...
> >
> > The pfm files are installed (the icons of these font show a red "a",
> > I  guess, for Adobe, as opposed to two superimposed  T's for
> > TrueType).   When you click on a TrueType font icon, Windows 2000 will list
> > the font, as you know.   However, if I click on the icon of a Type 1 pfm
> > font, nothing happens.  Strangely, these fonts are accessible by other
> > applications, e.g., Illustrator 10.  See sample file attached.
> >
> > NOTE:  The pfb fonts will NOT install when I dragged them from the
> > installation CD into the fonts folder.  Windows considers them to be
> > corrupt and I get a diagnostic to that effect.  I think pfb files are not
> > acceptable in the fonts folder.
>
> The pfb files aren't supposed to be dragged, from what I understand of
> this fonts installation business. There's an install option that's
> supposed to be used:
>
> a. Via Explorer, highlight the CD and then right-click on it. The
>    install menu will come up. On mine, the first font-related option
>    reads:
>
>       [1a]  Install fonts in Windows2000 Pro
>
> b. Try installing the fonts via this route, rather than dragging files
>    around.
>
> In addition, on my CD, I find a folder t1install, and in there, a file
> called t1install.txt.  a quick look to see if there's anything there
> that you recognise as happening on your machine.
>
> > 3.  This is my personal diagnosis of the situation which may, of course, be
> > total speculation:  The DVIWindo previewer is looking for Type 1 fonts in
> > pfb format but it cannot find them.  So it substitutes whatever it can get,
> > possibly TrueType fonts with the wrong encoding.
>
> Probably. Now, I've seen this happen when PCTeX has been on a machine
> -- PCTeX uses TrueType fonts. And the only solution is to purge then
> from the path that Y&YTeX and DVIWindo are using to process, display
> and print TeX files. One option is to create a tfm folder within
> c:\winnt, and stow them all safely there. Any programs that need to
> access them should have their paths adjusted (I believe that just
> doing c:\winnt\\ -- the \\ says `and search all subfolders as well').
>
> That allows you to keep TT fonts around, but separate from the T1s.
>
>
> > 4. I have not tried ATM 4.1 but I am not sure what ATM can do for Windows
> > 2000.  After all Windows 2000, as far as I understand the situation, has a
> > built in ATM-like program to deal with fonts.  Since I might be endangering
> > a host of other software that is running perfectly on my computer, I'd
> > better not tamper with ATM 4.1.
>
> Well, the instructions say that ATM has to be out of the loop while
> Y&YTeX is being installed. I haven't seen anything explicitly
> describing what you do after an install, so I'm going to ask exactly
> that question.
>
> > 5.  If the computer guru at your side can think of something, I might try
> > it but, otherwise, I'd better continue with MikTex.  Drop me a note, if you
> > someone can think of something.  This is the biggest software mystery I
> > have ever encountered in my long career.
>
> Well, if it's a case of TT and T1 trying to co-exist, then we should
> be able to sort things out.
>
> > Thank you for trying anyway.
>
> I'll keep plugging away at it. I won't move any of your mail into
> `techsupport-done' until it's truly solved, so I'll have your messages
> to remind me each time I go through and check what's left to work on
> ;-)
>
> Now, something you may be interested in. We've finally made the change
> in support procedures and you can find all the details on some updated
> pages at the Y&Y website, www.yandy.com, under the News and Support
> links.
>
> > Andreas
> >
> > ...
> >