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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hello Zdeněk,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">thank you for your hints. What a wonderful book!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ll take the TeX code of your tools package as a start and experiment with it. Maybe I will need to adopt to mark the latin characters and not rely on automatic switching
between latin LtoR and Arabic RtoL.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hartmut<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner@gmail.com>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 11. Juni 2024 12:22<br>
<b>An:</b> XeTeX (Unicode-based TeX) discussion. <xetex@tug.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Niemann, Hartmut (SMO RS LMC EN LM CCI FT) <hartmut.niemann@siemens.com><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [XeTeX] Typesetting arabic and european mix encoded in utf8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have not used Arabic but Urdu which uses a modified Arabic script. I have a book written in Czech with just small parts in Hindi and Urdu and I do it in XeLaTeX with the polyglossia package. A very small sample of the book is here:
<a href="http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz/bharat.php">http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz/bharat.php</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The page contains a link to the presentation of typesetting the book. The slides are in Czech because it was a national conference but slide #10 shows that the line break in the Urdu text is correct although the main language of the paragraph
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<p class="MsoNormal">Zdeněk Wagner<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.zdenek-wagner.eu/" target="_blank">https://www.zdenek-wagner.eu/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">út 11. 6. 2024 v 12:07 odesílatel Niemann, Hartmut via XeTeX <<a href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>> napsal:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">In my current project I use XeLaTeX to typeset PDF files from texts in different languages held in a separate database.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">(This is done with a generator that is language-unaware, generating lines like</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">\long\def\msgtext{</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">عطل</span><span lang="EN-US">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">في</span><span lang="EN-US">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">التهيئة</span><span lang="EN-US">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">البنيوماتية</span><span lang="EN-US"> GS}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Into a .inc file and a manually written, language dependent, frame document that defines \msgtext{}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I typeset a (mostly) Arabic document using XeLaTeX and \usepackage{arabxetex}[utf]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Arabxetex supports encoding Arabic in ASCII, and this interferes with the fact, that our texts have latin characters, like English abbreviations, location IDs
and such.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">The documented solution would be enclosing these latin characters which are to be typeset verbally into \text{LR}, which is rather hard if the text comes from
a database.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Does anybody how to switch off arabxetex’s ASCII-to-arabic conversion completely?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Or is there a package that supports Arabic (with Arabic typographic conventions) but made for pure Unicode sources?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">With best regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Hartmut Niemann</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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