Hi, just to point out that there is interesting effect if the very first \smash. is simply replaced by an x \hrule $$ \hbox{$\left)\vbox to15pt{}\right.$}_{x} % or also _{\hbox{x}} \hbox{$\left)\vbox to15pt{}\right.$}_{\smash.} \hbox{$\left)\vbox to15pt{}\right.$}_{\smash.} $$ \hrule Jean-François