[XeTeX] babel

[Zdenek Wagner]

Only ञ is a part of ज्ञ but it seems to me that the index filed lists
characters that may be used as a heading in the index. Thus ञ should not be
listed.

Zdeněk Wagner
http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz

2016-03-23 23:29 GMT+01:00 BPJ <bpj at melroch.se>:

> > characters] ङ  and ञ are not used in Hindi, they should be removed from
> index
>
> Aren't they used in conjuncts either?
>
> /bpj
>
>
> onsdag 23 mars 2016 skrev Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Javier,
>>
>> I am copying my reply to the cstex list because I am not autoritative for
>> Slovak and maybe I will not be precise enough. I am giving my commnents to
>> Czech (cs.ini), Slovak (sk.ini), and Hindi (hi.ini). Some comments are
>> common for all.
>>
>> I do not understand the meaning of the encoding field. T1 and OT1 are
>> font encodings for use with 8-bit TeX, XeTeX is able to use UTF-8 or UTF-16
>> and such fonts are available. IL2 (in Czech) was historically used in
>> cslatex. It is preserved for legacy documents but deprecated, unsupported
>> in babel and should be deleted. I know nothing about LY1. Before Unicode
>> there existed many private encodings for Devanagari, many web pages used it
>> and it was necessary to install a special font. Such fonts can still be
>> found but IMO there is no sense to support them.
>>
>> I understand hyphenchar (should be the same as in English in all
>> mentioned languages) but do not understand the other hyphen* fields.
>>
>> The minus sign in both Czech and Slovak should be –
>>
>> The quotes in both Czech and Slovak are „ and “ (the closing quote has
>> its codepoint in Unicode but is rarely present in fonts, it is better to
>> use English opening quote which has the same shape).
>>
>> In Czech (and maybe also in Slovak) the time separator is a period, in
>> sport results and time tables a colon is used.
>>
>> Slovak: characters Ä Ď Ô Ť in index look strange to me, it should be
>> proved by a native Slovak speaker.
>>
>> Hindi
>> ====
>>
>> See the note on the encoding above
>>
>> A few misprints and missing items in the captions
>> bib = संदर्भ-ग्रन्थ (or संदर्भ-ग्रंथ)
>> contents - the version you have is one of the alternatives suggested by
>> Anshuman Pandey but most books I have bought in India contain अनुक्रम
>> part = खण्ड (or खंड)
>> page = पृष्ठ
>> proof = प्रमाण
>> glossary = शब्दार्थ सूची
>>
>> cc, encl, and headto make no sense, I am probably the only man who writes
>> business e-mails in Hindi...
>>
>> I have never seen abreviated months (a native Hindi speaker should help).
>> The only abbreviations for days of week I have seen at the Aligarh railway
>> station are:
>> Monday = सो॰, Tuesday = मं॰, Wednesday = बु॰, Thursday = बृह॰, Friday =
>> शुक॰ (or शुक्र॰, the plate was not clearly readable), Saturday = शनि॰,
>> Sunday = रवि॰. I would not be surprized if the ॰ punctuation were omitted.
>>
>> [characters] ङ  and ञ are not used in Hindi, they should be removed from
>> index
>>
>> frenchspacing – I am afraid that it has no sense in Hindi as well as
>> other Indic languages. The proper spacing was implemented in GNU Freefont
>> (at least for Hindi) and is activated automatically by language switching.
>> The rules are explained (in Hindi only, links to other languages switch to
>> a different text) at
>>
>> https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81
>>
>> punctuation: danda । and double danda ॥ should be listed as the most
>> important punctuation
>> quotes: either English double quotes or English single quotes are used
>> (depends on the preference of an author and/or a publisher)
>>
>> number: Both Devanagari and Arabic digits are used, it is hard to say
>> which one should be he default
>>
>> counters: the way how list items are numbered does not conform to the
>> LaTeX system. I have a normative document how it should be done, it is
>> written in Marathi and I probably have also a Hindi version. Unfortunately
>> I have not found time to implement it so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Zdeněk Wagner
>> http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
>> http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz
>>
>> 2016-03-23 19:31 GMT+01:00 Javier Bezos <listas at tex-tipografia.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm working on a new version of babel, with a new way to define
>>> languages in a descriptive way, more than in a programmatic one (of
>>> course, the latter won't be excluded because it's still necessary).
>>>
>>> The idea is to create a set of ini file like those you can find on
>>>
>>>
>>> https://latex-project.org/svnroot/latex2e-public/trunk/required/babel/locales/
>>>
>>> They are tentative and some of them are incomplete. I'm working on the
>>> code to read and 'transform' their data, but in the meanwhile I'd like
>>> to improve the ini files. The first step in the roadmap is to provide
>>> real utf-8 strings for captions and dates with current styles so
>>> that they can be useable even without fontenc.
>>>
>>> Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> [Crossposted to xetex and luatex lists.]
>>>
>>> Javier
>>>
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