[XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

[Dominik Wujastyk]

Frank Liang's Patgen algorithms allow for ranking of hyphenation points, if
I recall correctly, but that information is thrown away by TeX.

Dominik

On 24 October 2010 09:45, John Was <john.was at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  I'm afraid the hyphenation rot had set in well before 1996.  Any
> publisher that can list bio|graph|ic|al and biog|raphy in adjacent entries
> to its published dictionary of hyphenation points (The Oxford Colour
> Spelling Dictionary) clearly needs to be treated with caution on such
> matters!   (The second two in 'biographical' are marked as less preferable,
> and I used to dream of a system which would allow ranking of hyphenation
> points, though it's a pretty immense task; the solitary one in biography' is
> surely unacceptable.)
>
> The old conventions as delineated in the latest editions of Hart were much
> safer, allowing much less less leeway for inflexional breaks and for the
> 'feel' of how words are pronounced nowadays (or however they would like to
> express it) and sticking to a finite number of quite easily grasped rules
> that had essentially been in place since the inception of type and (in view
> of the prevalence of classical learning at that time) are recognizable
> adaptations of Latin/Greek rules (essentially: take over a single consonant,
> split a group of consonants, though it isn't that straightforward of
> course).
>
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
> *To:* Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <xetex at tug.org>
> *Sent:* 23 October 2010 17:51
> *Subject:* Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly
> community
>
> On 23 October 2010 16:20, John Was <john.was at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>>
> Getting back to TeX-related matters, the hyphenation patterns available in
>> XeTeX (even to 'plain' users like myself) are an enormous help, even if I
>> disagree with the English at frequent points
>>
> [...]
>>
>
> Phil Taylor, Graham Toal, and I were involved in making the British English
> hyphenation patterns for TeX.  They were based on a really good tape of
> UK-English-hyphenated words supplied to me by OUP themselves in 1996 (with
> full permissions to release the results to the TeX community).  When you say
> you disagree with the English break points quite often, are you using the US
> or the UK patterns?  They're very, very different.
>
> It's hard to get good public info on British English hyphenation.  American
> dictionaries routinely include hyphenation points, but British one's
> routinely don't. The OUP tape was a godsend.
>
> Dominik
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