[XeTeX] Font problem with publisher --- help!!!

Jonathan Kew jfkthame at googlemail.com
Fri Sep 11 15:42:36 CEST 2009

On 11 Sep 2009, at 14:28, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:

> What do you think about converting all text to outlines? That'll  
> solve the problem, but I don't know if it has "collateral damages...

I think you shouldn't be doing any of this.

If something about the actual text needs to be changed, the publisher  
should tell you what, so you can change it and regenerate the PDF. (If  
you convert it to outlines, they can't edit it anyway.)

And if they want to add something to the pages without actually  
touching your text (e.g., their logo, ISBN, etc), then they should be  
"placing" the PDF page (or an EPS copy) intact, complete with its  
embedded fonts, not trying to open it in Illustrator for editing.

In either case, it sounds like they're currently going about things in  
completely the wrong way.


> Thanks,
> Nicolas
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicolas Vaughan <nivaca at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Dear all,
> Thanks for your advices. I will be meeting today with my publisher  
> again, and I'm carrying with me a host of PDFs with your suggestions.
> In the end, I did as William suggested: export all the pages into  
> EPS and placed them in a INDD file.... let's wait to see what they  
> say now.
> Best wishes!
> Nicolas
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:59 AM, William Adams  
> <will.adams at frycomm.com> wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:
> The problem persists, though. I think my publisher is trying to open  
> the PDF in Adobe Illustrator, in order to do something with the text  
> block (don't know why!). But when he tries to do that, AI reports  
> that KP-etc. fonts are not available. And they aren't available to  
> the OS (and to AI) since they are LaTeX fonts only.
> Any ideas?
> If they want to do something other than edit text, they can open  
> your .pdf in Adobe Acrobat Professional, save out the pages which  
> they wish to change as .eps files, then place (not open) those .eps  
> files in Adobe Illustrator (or better still Adobe InDesign) and add  
> whatever additional elements need to be added (they'll need to set  
> up the page properly to match trim, bleed &c.) --- of course if the  
> text needs to be edited, then they'll need for you to do that as  
> previous respondents have noted.
> Or they could purchase Enfocus PitStop and use it for any such .pdf  
> editing.
> Adobe Illustrator is _not_ a general purpose .pdf editor and has to  
> translate all elements of a .pdf into its own internal format which  
> can result in marked changes in appearance or text formatting and  
> then creates the need to proof the edited file character for  
> character, line for line, graphic for graphic.
> William
> -- 
> William Adams
> senior graphic designer
> Fry Communications
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.

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