[XeTeX] again russian, german, english...

Martin Henning martin at easy2design.de
Wed Feb 15 13:53:27 CET 2006

hi Jonathan, finally some sort of internet again - 300B/s but better  
than nothing *g*

On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Kew wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2006, at 1:59 pm, Martin Henning wrote:
>> Yes, i get everything in Charis SIL and table of contents etc. in  
>> russian, but: Hyphenation doesn't seem to work properly. I looked  
>> at all kinds of russian texts, there is seems to be ok, though i  
>> sometimes get overlong lines, where it simply doesn't break the  
>> word earlier or put it on the next line - don't know why...
> In your example last week, I saw some instances of long words  
> separated by slashes, e.g, современные/ 
> передовые. Note that the slash here will (by default)  
> inhibit hyphenation. You might want to use LaTeX's \slash instead  
> (which permits a line-break after the slash); or if you want to  
> allow hyphenation of the words each side of the slash, then you  
> need to introduce some (zero-width) glue.

This was just for me - just didn't know, yet, which word i was going  
to use. The zero-width glue thing is unfortunately as far away as  
chinese for me :')

>> English hyphenation doesn't seem to function at all, because i  
>> found (among right things...) stuff like "art-icle", which for my  
>> understanding is wrong.
> Yes, that seems odd. Can you provide a sample file that  
> demonstrates such errors?

yep. trying to upload it :)

>> it seems to me that i don't understand the overall system here... :)
> Nor do I -- Babel is something of a mystery!

oh, yes...

> The rules for \baselineskip, \lineskip, and \lineskiplimit are a  
> little tricky. With a sufficiently negative \lineskiplimit, you'll  
> get lines spaced according to \baselineskip all the time (which  
> your LaTeX class will set up according to its wishes). With  
> OpenType/TrueType fonts in XeTeX, and without a negative  
> \lineskiplimit, you'll often find you're actually setting the lines  
> "solid" (according to the font metrics, which are usually larger  
> than the actual glyph sizes), and the \baselineskip that LaTeX  
> wanted to set is effectively being ignored.

ok, so with -5 a get nice line spacing - as long i don't have  
superscripted figures etc. as soon as the index of a footnote  
appears, the whole line jumps down back to huge spacing :) that is...  
hmm... bad :)
i'll try to include that in the example file, too!

need to get back to actually working on the document - just 13 days  

thanx again,

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