<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">Hi members,<br>
</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">Jonathan Fine made
a request </p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm"> Hi Joseph and Jay</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">Would it be in
order
for me to post the message below to uk-tug-announce?</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">Jonathan</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">===</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">Hi</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">UK-TUG has provided
a place for TeX users in the UK to meet and talk. UK TUG has about
80
members. Here's a list of the continuations I know about. They
mostly
each have about 7 members. I set up the first four, and Simon
Dales
the fifth. I look forward to both cooperation and rivalry.</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm"><font
color="#000080"><span lang="en-GB"><u><a
href="https://groups.google.com/g/uk-tex-users">[</a>5
URL’s snipped ] JH</u></span></font></p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">I'm confident that
both Simon and myself would appreciate comments, feedback and
questions from ordinary members. Perhaps one of you would like to
briefly review these continuations.</p>
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm">with kind regards</p>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
<p>I asked JF what thread it should go under. He replied it needed a
new thread.
I said it was off topic for the SGM. <br>
</p>
<p>Jonathan Fine wrote:
I ask the Chair to reconsider the decision, that my post on
"Social and
technical continuations of UK-TUG" is off-topic during the voting
period of
the SGM.</p>
Perhaps my initial reply was too terse.<br>
<p><br>
</p>
I now reconsider: <font style="font-size: 10pt" size="4">What
criteria should I apply to JF’s proposed posting?</font>
<p><span lang="en-GB">Is it relevant to a </span><span lang="en-GB">specific
</span><span lang="en-GB">motion?</span> <br>
</p>
<p><span lang="en-GB">Is </span><span lang="en-GB">instead r</span><span
lang="en-GB">elevant to the </span><span lang="en-GB">general </span><span
lang="en-GB">meeting </span><span lang="en-GB">t</span><span
lang="en-GB">heme, Dissolution? <br>
</span></p>
<p><span lang="en-GB"></span>
<span lang="en-GB">Is it within the </span><span lang="en-GB">chairing
</span><span lang="en-GB">guidelines developed by the committee
before the meeting?</span> <br>
</p>
<p><span lang="en-GB"> The guidelines permit continuation to be
discussed in general terms, but it was felt that specifics of
continuation should not be discussed as they were not relevant
to dissolution and they they would distract from discussion of
dissolution. (There is other guidance. This piece seemed
relevant to me.)</span>
<font face="Liberation Mono, monospace"><font style="font-size:
10pt" size="2"><span lang="en-GB"><br>
</span></font></font></p>
<p><font face="Liberation Mono, monospace"><font style="font-size:
10pt" size="2"><span lang="en-GB">Does it risk disrupting the
meeting?</span></font></font> <br>
</p>
<p><span lang="en-GB">I judge that the posting as proposed is not
appropriate for the meeting </span><span lang="en-GB">according
to the criteria above. I no longer believe that rewording the
proposed posting will make it more acceptable.</span>
<span lang="en-GB">I </span><span lang="en-GB">do </span><span
lang="en-GB">believe </span><span lang="en-GB">the proposed
posting </span><span lang="en-GB">will fulfil its evident
purpose if posted after the voting is complete. </span><span
lang="en-GB">Calling the members to a different venue at that
stage might lead to a positive outcome such as a harmonious new
group which I would welcome.</span><br>
</p>
<p>
<span lang="en-GB">Jay Hammond</span></p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Email use <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jay@jjnr.uk">jay@jjnr.uk</a></pre>
</body>
</html>