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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I endorse Keiran’s comment below. UK TUG should live on but with a greatly simplified constitution so that we aren’t continually being exposed to these public, and often rancorous, angels-on-pinheads debates that I believe discourage engagement by members and service on the committee. Going forward TUG needs some simple and achievable aims that provide benefit to the membership and the wider TeX community, reflected in a constitution that encourages pragmatism within the committee.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My 2p.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Richard Gould <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> uktug-announce <uktug-announce-bounces+rhgould=rhgould.uk@tug.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keiran Harcombe<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 October 2021 09:12<br><b>To:</b> John Trapp <j.j.trapp.65@cantab.net>; UK-TUG Announce <uktug-announce@tug.org>; Jonathan Fine <jfine2358@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [UK-TUG] Continuation of a TeX community in the UK (and subscribing to TUG via UK-TUG)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Hi all,<br><br>I would be interested in keeping the community effort afloat. I believe we are in a unique position to help each other and other TeX users in the UK such as academic institutions. <br><br>It would be an absolute shame to see UK TUG dissolved and would urge anyone wishing to keep it afloat to reject the committees motion to dissolve. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Kind Regards,<br>Keiran Harcombe<i><br><em><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'> </span></em></i><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>On October 3, 2021, Jonathan Fine <<a href="mailto:jfine2358@gmail.com">jfine2358@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:solid #DFDEE1 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Hi<br><br>John Trapp asked what will happen for those like himself, who subscribe to TUG via UK-TUG (if dissolution happens). This is a good question.<br><br>I rejoined the committee at last year's AGM. In December I asked that the committee discuss the continuation of a TeX community in the UK (should dissolution happen). In January I asked the chair Jay Hammond to make advancing the objects of UK-TUG an agenda item.<br><br>Jay declined to place these items on the committee agenda, stating that "no other member of the committee has expressed an interest" and that "several members have privately suggested that the committee should discuss the bare minimum of topics."<br><br>Jay's correct. Other than myself, the committee is not concerned about the loss of a sense of community and other benefits that would result from dissolution. If you wish some of these benefis to continue then please speak up now, so we can set something up while this list still exists.<br><br>The continuation is up to the ordinary members. I'm in the process of setting up a uk-tex-users email forum. This will be low maintenance and all will be welcome to subscribe. There's already a handful of people interested.<br><br>Disclaimer: I'm not writing on behalf of the committee.<br><br>with best regards<br><br>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>