From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 08:51:06 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:21:06 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212011413230.1927-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

On previewing a even a small  formula, though preview render but I get
following error:

"(2) (error/warning)  Error in process filter:  (args-out-of-range [(1)
 (221750 1751 87)] 2 )"

I  also  get sometimes  duplicate  figures  of formula  i.e  graphical
rendering of formula twice in place of once.

I am using Xemacs version 21.1 and AFPL Ghostscript 7.04

-- 
H.S.Rai

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world.


From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 09:21:04 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Krishna?=)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:21:04 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] placing footnote
Message-ID: <20021201092104.26546.qmail@web8005.mail.in.yahoo.com>

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Hi all !

I have some doubts

1. How to place header & footer  for first page and footnote for corresponding pages.

2. How to place recto verso (running head left, right)
     \markboth{}{} it is appearing for right hand side only

thanks

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From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 10:31:28 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Anurag Sharma)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:31:28 +1100
Subject: [Tugindia] agsm.bst
Message-ID: <CGEHJPFAMNGCPCGENOLKAEHLCGAA.Anurag.Sharma@anu.edu.au>

Hi all,
I changed my \bibliographystyle from agsm to chicago. The result is that I
am getting references with enumeration. I reverted to agsm.bst but am still
getting the numbers in front of each reference. How do I remove them
(numbers)?
Thanks
anurag
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From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 11:21:29 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:21:29 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212011413230.1927-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212011121.gB1BLTih008768@localhost.localdomain>

H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in> writes:

> On previewing a even a small  formula, though preview render but I get
> following error:
> 
> "(2) (error/warning)  Error in process filter:  (args-out-of-range [(1)
>  (221750 1751 87)] 2 )"
> 
> I  also  get sometimes  duplicate  figures  of formula  i.e  graphical
> rendering of formula twice in place of once.
> 
> I am using Xemacs version 21.1 and AFPL Ghostscript 7.04

21.1 is pretty old, and various versions of it have various levels of
bugginess.  The earliest version people have reported to work
somewhat reliably is 21.1.14.  But it will still have several
issues.  The first version that is known not to cause display
problems is 21.4.8 under Windows and 21.4.9 under X11.

XEmacs users _definitely_ need to use the newest version of
preview-latex, version 0.7.5: earlier versions have a bad bug in
compatibility macros that will cause _other_ packages that happen to
be loaded before preview-latex to fail (Gnus is one such package).

preview-latex 0.7.5 has been reported _not_ to work with AFPL
GhostScript 7.04: please upgrade either to GNU or ESP GhostScript
7.05, or to AFPL GhostScript 8.0 (which has been released just a week
ago).

I apologize for all the inconvenience.  On the upside, for the
recommended versions no problems are known or reported.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 11:23:15 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:23:15 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] placing footnote
References: <20021201092104.26546.qmail@web8005.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200212011123.gB1BNFa0008775@localhost.localdomain>

Krishna <vgkrishn@yahoo.co.in> writes:

> I have some doubts
> 
> 1. How to place header & footer for first page and footnote for
>    corresponding pages.
> 
> 2. How to place recto verso (running head left, right)
>      \markboth{}{} it is appearing for right hand side only

Take a look at the fancyhdr package which is commonly used for that
purpose.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 13:11:12 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:41:12 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
In-Reply-To: <200212011121.gB1BLTih008768@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212011838340.3808-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:

> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:21:29 +0100
> From: David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de>
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
> To: tugindia@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.

> issues.  The first version that is known not to cause display
> problems is 21.4.8 under Windows and 21.4.9 under X11.
> XEmacs users _definitely_ need to use the newest version of
> preview-latex, version 0.7.5: earlier versions have a bad bug in

Dear Kastrup,
Is there any easy way that the 0.7.5 preview-latex be installed in XEmacs
(21.4 patch6) running under Windows XP?
regards
Baburaj

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Office:                                       Current Residence:         
F.M.Lab, Dept of Mech Engg,                     U68, IISc           
IISc, Bangalore, 560012                  Ph: 91 080 3942624,3942591,3600265  
Ph: 91 080 3942302                                
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From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 14:13:55 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:13:55 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212011838340.3808-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212011413.gB1EDtt7016917@localhost.localdomain>

"Baburaj A. Puthenveettil" <apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in> writes:

> On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:21:29 +0100
> > From: David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de>
> > Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
> > To: tugindia@tug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
> 
> > issues.  The first version that is known not to cause display
> > problems is 21.4.8 under Windows and 21.4.9 under X11.
> > XEmacs users _definitely_ need to use the newest version of
> > preview-latex, version 0.7.5: earlier versions have a bad bug in
> 
> Dear Kastrup,
> Is there any easy way that the 0.7.5 preview-latex be installed in XEmacs
> (21.4 patch6) running under Windows XP?

First I'd recommend upgrading to a newer XEmacs as mentioned above.
Apart from that, preview-latex 0.7.5 has been reported to install
right out of the box also under Windows XP.

If you want to use the autoconf-based installation, you need to have
the Cygwin tools or a similar set of Unix-like utilities installed.
There is a file outlining a manual installation procedure in case you
don't want to use that.  Your XEmacs does not need to be of the
Cygwin variety, nor does your TeX, and during normal operation no
Unix-like utilities are required.

Another point worth noting is that the installation tries looking for
GhostScript under the name "gs".  While preview-latex's Lisp code can
be configured to look for a different name, making an appropriate
link to what may be called gswin32 or similar is probably the easiest
way to achieve that.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 14:43:01 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:13:01 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
In-Reply-To: <200212011413.gB1EDtt7016917@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212012006120.4544-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:

> First I'd recommend upgrading to a newer XEmacs as mentioned above.
> Apart from that, preview-latex 0.7.5 has been reported to install
> right out of the box also under Windows XP.

	How do I do it? Any readme of how to install is available? The 
sourceforge net has tar.gz , so should I unzip it in linux first and then  
transfer to windows.

> If you want to use the autoconf-based installation, you need to have
> the Cygwin tools or a similar set of Unix-like utilities installed.
> There is a file outlining a manual installation procedure in case you
> don't want to use that.  Your XEmacs does not need to be of the
> Cygwin variety, nor does your TeX, and during normal operation no
> Unix-like utilities are required.
	
	Do you mean about the windows installation file for preview latex
at sourceforge net? More details? I presume that no automatic installation
file in the form of setup.exe is available for preview-latex for windows
xemacs?
regards
Baburaj
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________________________________________________________________________________
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Office:                                       Current Residence:         
F.M.Lab, Dept of Mech Engg,                     U68, IISc           
IISc, Bangalore, 560012                  Ph: 91 080 3942624,3942591,3600265  
Ph: 91 080 3942302                                
Fax: 91 080 3600648 
email: apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in, apbraj@rediffmail.com
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From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec  1 15:14:12 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 01 Dec 2002 16:14:12 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212012006120.4544-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <x57ketojp7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

"Baburaj A. Puthenveettil" <apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in> writes:

> On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> > First I'd recommend upgrading to a newer XEmacs as mentioned above.
> > Apart from that, preview-latex 0.7.5 has been reported to install
> > right out of the box also under Windows XP.
> 
> 	How do I do it? Any readme of how to install is available?

Certainly.  Just unpack it.

> 	The sourceforge net has tar.gz , so should I unzip it in linux
> first and then transfer to windows.

AFAIK, the WinZIP utility should have no problem unpacking a tar.gz
file.

> > If you want to use the autoconf-based installation, you need to
> > have the Cygwin tools or a similar set of Unix-like utilities
> > installed.  There is a file outlining a manual installation
> > procedure in case you don't want to use that.  Your XEmacs does
> > not need to be of the Cygwin variety, nor does your TeX, and
> > during normal operation no Unix-like utilities are required.
> 	
> 	Do you mean about the windows installation file for preview latex
> at sourceforge net? More details?

I suggest that you unpack the archive, read through the available
docs, and _then_ ask any questions that remain open.  We have
invested a lot of time and work in making good documentation.  Please
don't ignore it.  When you have any problems with the documentation,
of course feel free to report them and ask questions.  But take a
look at the documentation first.

> I presume that no automatic installation file in the form of
> setup.exe is available for preview-latex for windows xemacs?

Until such time as anybody does this: correct.  It should also be
reasonably simple (and probably more appropriate) to make an official
XEmacs package for XEmacs' package system for preview-latex (the
installation procedure pretty much does something like generating such
a package and installing it manually AFAICS), but unless some
volunteer does so and submits it, this will not happen.  I don't use
XEmacs myself.

I am copying this mail to preview-latex-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
maybe somebody there knows better about what would be involved.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec  2 12:30:13 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Manjusha Joshi)
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 18:00:13 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] placing footnote
References: <20021201092104.26546.qmail@web8005.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DEB5255.80105@vsnl.com>

Krishna wrote:

> Hi all !
>
> I have some doubts
>
> 1. How to place header & footer  for first page and footnote for 
> corresponding pages.
>
> 2. How to place recto verso (running head left, right)
>      \markboth{}{} it is appearing for right hand side only
>
\markboth works very well when you use \documentclass{book}, since in 
book class, latex can bifurcate between
odd page and even page, which i suseful  to put left head and right head.
For more types of header and footer can use style file "fancyheadings.sty"

with best wishes,
Manjusha


> thanks
>
> Krishna
>


From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec  2 13:24:47 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manoj=20Kummini?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:24:47 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] agsm.bst
In-Reply-To: <CGEHJPFAMNGCPCGENOLKAEHLCGAA.Anurag.Sharma@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20021202132447.46027.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Anurag Sharma <Anurag.Sharma@anu.edu.au> wrote: 

> I changed my \bibliographystyle from agsm to chicago. The result is
> that I
> am getting references with enumeration. I reverted to agsm.bst but
> am still
> getting the numbers in front of each reference. How do I remove
> them
> (numbers)?

I may be naive to raise this question: did you run bibtex after
reverting to agsm.bst? It is this step that generates the labels of
one's bibliographic items. The correct procedure to compile your
source file after a change in stuff related to bibtex is this:
1. latex/pdflatex source.tex (to generate the recent source.aux)
2. bibtex source (to generate source.bbl; this contains the way
citations are printed)
3. latex/pdflatex source.tex
4. latex/pdflatex source.tex (the fourth step is required only if the
labels in the .bbl file have changed. Such a change will be
recognised only at the end of step 3.

Hope this solves your problem.

With regards,
Manoj.

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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec  2 22:55:53 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Anurag Sharma)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:55:53 +1100
Subject: [Tugindia] agsm.bst
In-Reply-To: <20021202132447.46027.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CGEHJPFAMNGCPCGENOLKGEHOCGAA.Anurag.Sharma@anu.edu.au>

Hi manoj,

I have managed to solve my problem. Actually while downloading chicago.bst,
I downloaded a folder which contained natbib.cfg which I believe had the
settings for enumerated references. I deleted it and now everything is fine.

anurag

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From: tugindia-admin@tug.org [mailto:tugindia-admin@tug.org]On Behalf Of
Manoj Kummini
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:25 AM
To: tugindia@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tugindia] agsm.bst


 --- Anurag Sharma <Anurag.Sharma@anu.edu.au> wrote:

> I changed my \bibliographystyle from agsm to chicago. The result is
> that I
> am getting references with enumeration. I reverted to agsm.bst but
> am still
> getting the numbers in front of each reference. How do I remove
> them
> (numbers)?

I may be naive to raise this question: did you run bibtex after
reverting to agsm.bst? It is this step that generates the labels of
one's bibliographic items. The correct procedure to compile your
source file after a change in stuff related to bibtex is this:
1. latex/pdflatex source.tex (to generate the recent source.aux)
2. bibtex source (to generate source.bbl; this contains the way
citations are printed)
3. latex/pdflatex source.tex
4. latex/pdflatex source.tex (the fourth step is required only if the
labels in the .bbl file have changed. Such a change will be
recognised only at the end of step 3.

Hope this solves your problem.

With regards,
Manoj.

=====
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http://www.geocities.com/kummini/index.html
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec  3 04:22:38 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:52:38 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] cross references.
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448EE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>

Hi,
I want to change the way the crossreference to figures,tables, equations
etc work. Suppose we 
have a label \label{myfig}.  If I refer to it elsewhere with \ref{myfig}
I would like latex 
to put just the corresponding figure number(as it happens now)  if the
the \ref occurs in the same page as the
one in which the figure appears. In addition, if the reference appears
in a different page I want latex to
say some thing like `<figurenumber> on page number <pagenumber>'.  Right
now,
I use \pageref command after finalising the manuscript. Is this
possible?
Venkataraman


From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec  3 06:41:13 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manoj=20Kummini?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:41:13 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] Inserting Tab in Output Stream.
Message-ID: <20021203064113.88900.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello All,

I was looking for a method to insert <TAB> (ASCII Code 0x09) in a
output stream generated by a macro. I tried using 

\write\t@gfile{#1^^09\jobname.tex}

and

\write\t@gfile{#1^^I\jobname.tex}

where \t@gfile has been opened by \newwrite and \openout. I see only
a space where the TAB is intended. Then I tried ^^J, and found that
LF is inserted. There is a line in latex.ltx which changes the
catcode of ^^I to 10 (blank). I changed it to 11, but that doesn't do
what I meant. Is there any other way of inserting a TAB?

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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec  3 09:26:40 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:26:40 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] cross references.
References: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448EE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <200212030926.gB39Qe2P003293@localhost.localdomain>

"S. venkataraman" <svenkat@ignou.ac.in> writes:

> I want to change the way the crossreference to figures,tables, equations
> etc work. Suppose we 
> have a label \label{myfig}.  If I refer to it elsewhere with \ref{myfig}
> I would like latex 
> to put just the corresponding figure number(as it happens now)  if the
> the \ref occurs in the same page as the
> one in which the figure appears. In addition, if the reference appears
> in a different page I want latex to
> say some thing like `<figurenumber> on page number <pagenumber>'.  Right
> now,
> I use \pageref command after finalising the manuscript. Is this
> possible?

varioref.sty is par of the standard LaTeX tools.

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec  3 09:29:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:29:07 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Inserting Tab in Output Stream.
References: <20021203064113.88900.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200212030929.gB39T7m8003303@localhost.localdomain>

Manoj Kummini <kummini@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hello All,
> 
> I was looking for a method to insert <TAB> (ASCII Code 0x09) in a
> output stream generated by a macro. I tried using 
> 
> \write\t@gfile{#1^^09\jobname.tex}
> 
> and
> 
> \write\t@gfile{#1^^I\jobname.tex}
> 
> where \t@gfile has been opened by \newwrite and \openout. I see only
> a space where the TAB is intended. Then I tried ^^J, and found that
> LF is inserted. There is a line in latex.ltx which changes the
> catcode of ^^I to 10 (blank). I changed it to 11, but that doesn't do
> what I meant. Is there any other way of inserting a TAB?

^^I is a non-printable character.  TeX will always write it out as
^^I unless you create your own TCX file (you could start with
cp8bit.tcx as a base) in which ^^I has been declared printable and
use TeX's -translate-file option.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec  5 10:50:19 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (R. Sreekumar)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:20:19 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Converting from dvi to pdf.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0211261713300.2956-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212051617500.19766-100000@trinetra.ncb.ernet.in>

Hello all,

When I try to convert my .dvi file to .pdf using 'dvipdf', I'm getting an
error message saying "This document uses Type 3 fonts - some text may not
be correctly displayed".  Actually, no texts are displayed.

Please help me to sort out the problem.

Thanks in advance,

Regards,
Sreekumar


From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec  5 11:06:03 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:06:03 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Converting from dvi to pdf.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212051617500.19766-100000@trinetra.ncb.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212051106.gB5B63MN008522@localhost.localdomain>

"R. Sreekumar" <shree@ncb.ernet.in> writes:

> Hello all,
> 
> When I try to convert my .dvi file to .pdf using 'dvipdf', I'm getting an
> error message saying "This document uses Type 3 fonts - some text may not
> be correctly displayed".  Actually, no texts are displayed.
> 
> Please help me to sort out the problem.

<URL:http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=dvips-pdf>

But there are quite more entries in the FAQ that are of interest for
your problem.

So after reading this entry, getting to the table of contents for the
FAQ and looking up other relevant entries might be a good idea.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec  5 11:18:32 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Kapil Hari Paranjape)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:48:32 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Converting from dvi to pdf.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212051617500.19766-100000@trinetra.ncb.ernet.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0211261713300.2956-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212051617500.19766-100000@trinetra.ncb.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021205111832.GE19655@imsc.res.in>

Dear Sreekumar,

> When I try to convert my .dvi file to .pdf using 'dvipdf', I'm getting an
> error message saying "This document uses Type 3 fonts - some text may not
> be correctly displayed".  Actually, no texts are displayed.

It might help if you tell us what system you are using.

On Debian GNU/Linux Version 3.0
with teTeX Version: 1.0.7
when viewing with xpdf Version: 1.01

it all works fine.

Kapil.
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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec  5 12:19:16 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manoj=20Kummini?=)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:19:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] Order of \caption & \label
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0211201855380.1535-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021205121916.99238.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in> wrote: 
> I find that while
> 
> \caption{MyCaption}
> \label{MyLabel}
> 
> works fine in all respect, but on changing order of these two lines
> in
> table environment, writes nothing, where it should write the number
> of
> table at  the place  where label  is referred,  while table  number
> is
> written correctly for the table along with its caption.

\label uses \@currentlabel, which is not set by \begin{<float>}, but
by the \caption inside the <float>. To be precise, it is set while
the <float> counter is incremented. Sectioning commands like
\section, \subsection etc increment their corresponding counters and,
while doing that, set \@currentlabel. That is why we can give a
statement like \section{My Section}\label{sec:mysec}.

Hope this answers your question.

With regards,
Manoj.


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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec  5 17:18:27 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dileep=20Padinjarae=20Vengasseri?=)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:18:27 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] Converting from dvi to pdf.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212051617500.19766-100000@trinetra.ncb.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021205171827.68299.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

Can you not try dvips -Ppdf foo.dvi -o foo.ps and then
ps2pdf foo.ps? Initially I had problems with this
conversion. But once I updated my tetex, this works
perfectly fine.

Conversion of dvi to pdf had always been a regular
discussion in the group!

With best regards,

Dileep

> Hello all,
> 
> When I try to convert my .dvi file to .pdf using
> 'dvipdf', I'm getting an
> error message saying "This document uses Type 3
> fonts - some text may not
> be correctly displayed".  Actually, no texts are
> displayed.


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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec  6 09:55:24 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:25:24 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
In-Reply-To: <200212011413.gB1EDtt7016917@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212061512510.5938-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:

Dear Kastrup,

> First I'd recommend upgrading to a newer XEmacs as mentioned above.
> Apart from that, preview-latex 0.7.5 has been reported to install
> right out of the box also under Windows XP.

	The current version that I have seems to be lates XEmacs for
windows at sourceforgenet.

> If you want to use the autoconf-based installation, you need to have
> the Cygwin tools or a similar set of Unix-like utilities installed.
> There is a file outlining a manual installation procedure in case you
> don't want to use that.  Your XEmacs does not need to be of the
> Cygwin variety, nor does your TeX, and during normal operation no
> Unix-like utilities are required.

	I have MSYS on the system. I downloaded latex preview, and put all 
the files in 
 
C:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\preview-latex-0.7.5

Tried running configure from this directory. It didnt detect XEmacs. So 
copied the files to 
  
C:\Program Files\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.6\i586-pc-win32

.ie, the directory where xemacs.exe is kept. Xemacs and AuCtex was deteted 
now but not ghostview. The following error is seen.

checking for gs... NONE
configure: error: gs not found!  Aborting!
You must install Ghostscript for preview to work

> Another point worth noting is that the installation tries looking for
> GhostScript under the name "gs".  While preview-latex's Lisp code can
> be configured to look for a different name, making an appropriate
> link to what may be called gswin32 or similar is probably the easiest
> way to achieve that.

	What you say above seems to be the problem. If I change the
following line in config.ini

AC_PATH_PROG_REQUIRED(GS, gs, [gs not found!  Aborting!  
You must install Ghostscript for preview to work.])

to detect gswin32.exe will it work? How do I give a link to gswin32.exe. 
My path for gs is C:\gs\gs7.03\bin 

regards
Baburaj

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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec  6 10:30:49 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 06 Dec 2002 11:30:49 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212061512510.5938-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <x5wumnl9ra.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

"Baburaj A. Puthenveettil" <apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in> writes:

> On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> Dear Kastrup,
> 
> > First I'd recommend upgrading to a newer XEmacs as mentioned above.
> > Apart from that, preview-latex 0.7.5 has been reported to install
> > right out of the box also under Windows XP.
> 
> 	The current version that I have seems to be lates XEmacs for
> windows at sourceforgenet.

I use neither XEmacs nor Windows, yet the information pertaining to
that is so readily available at XEmacs' download site
(URL:http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/) or mirrors that I am
surprised you should not be able to find it even after being told
your Emacs is outdated.

I quote from there:

    XEmacs and Supporting Libraries and Programs for Windows
    Netinstall Binaries

    XEmacs 21.4.10 "Military Intelligence (Windows)"

        You may install either a cygwin or native windows version from
        one of our world-wide mirrors closest to you, by just clicking
        on setup.exe.

[...]

    InstallShield Binaries
    Disclaimer

    Currently these InstallShield binaries are significantly behind
    latest versions for stable, gamma, and beta releases. Please use
    the Netinstaller Binaries instead (see above), which can also
    install a native windows version of XEmacs.

> > If you want to use the autoconf-based installation, you need to have
> > the Cygwin tools or a similar set of Unix-like utilities installed.
> > There is a file outlining a manual installation procedure in case you
> > don't want to use that.  Your XEmacs does not need to be of the
> > Cygwin variety, nor does your TeX, and during normal operation no
> > Unix-like utilities are required.
> 
> 	I have MSYS on the system. I downloaded latex preview, and put all 
> the files in 
>  
> C:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\preview-latex-0.7.5

Why would you do that?  This is a directory _internal_ to XEmacs.
The installation should be unpacked somewhere else, such as in
c:\tmp\preview or whatever.  In course of the installation, the
proper files will get transferred to XEmacs' appropriate directories.

> Tried running configure from this directory. It didnt detect
> XEmacs.

Which probably means that you don't have it in your PATH.  If you
don't want to put it there, configure needs to see the option
--with-xemacs="c:/Program Files/XEmacs/bin/xemacs.exe"
or similar.  I am not entirely sure this will work due to the space
in the path, which could be problematic.  It will probably be easier
to add XEmacs to your PATH.

> So copied the files to
>   
> C:\Program Files\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.6\i586-pc-win32
> 
>  .ie, the directory where xemacs.exe is kept.

Good gracious, don't clutter up your directories like that.  See above.

>  Xemacs and AuCtex was deteted
> now but not ghostview.

GhostScript, you mean.

> The following error is seen.
> 
> checking for gs... NONE
> configure: error: gs not found!  Aborting!
> You must install Ghostscript for preview to work
> 
> > Another point worth noting is that the installation tries looking for
> > GhostScript under the name "gs".  While preview-latex's Lisp code can
> > be configured to look for a different name, making an appropriate
> > link to what may be called gswin32 or similar is probably the easiest
> > way to achieve that.
> 
> 	What you say above seems to be the problem. If I change the
> following line in config.ini
> 
> AC_PATH_PROG_REQUIRED(GS, gs, [gs not found!  Aborting!  
> You must install Ghostscript for preview to work.])
> 
> to detect gswin32.exe will it work?

The above line is just a check: GhostScript is not needed during the
installation.  You can delete it completely if you know what you are doing.

> How do I give a link to gswin32.exe. 

Well, it is supposed to be just point and click or something in your
explorer or such.  Sorry, since I switched away from Microsoft before
Windows-1.0 was released, I really have no clue.  You should have
more experience in that regard than I have.

> My path for gs is C:\gs\gs7.03\bin 

Sigh.  An outdated version of AFPL GhostScript, to boot.  We have had
a problem report with AFPL GhostScript 7.04, so I would guess that
7.03 would probably be equally affected.  Upgrade to either GNU
GhostScript 7.05 or AFPL GhostScript 8.0.

If you do the latter, after fudging the install as above (but I
really would recommend creating that link, it can't be so hard) you
would have to do
M-x load-library RET preview RET
M-x customize-variable RET preview-gs-command RET
enter your GhostScript executable name and Save for Future Sessions.

But I would rather make sure that you can call GhostScript just by
saying gs: this could save you trouble with other packages and
upgrades later on.

By the way: the bug reporting address for preview-latex is, as
mentioned in the docs, preview-latex-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net.
Once you have installed a basic set,
M-x load-library RET preview RET
M-x preview-report-bug RET
can be used for submitting bug reports.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec  6 13:33:08 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (tugindia@tug.org)
Date: Fri,  6 Dec 2002 19:03:08 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] dvips
Message-ID: <20021206133308.6DAC27E0E@chn3.vsnl.net.in>

Will "dvips -Pcmz -Pamz my.dvi -o" help ?

Satheesh

David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup)
 wrote
"R. Sreekumar" <shree@ncb.ernet.in> writes:

> Hello all,
> 
> When I try to convert my .dvi file to .pdf using 'dvipdf', I'm getting an
> error message saying "This document uses Type 3 fonts - some text may not
> be correctly displayed".  Actually, no texts are displayed.
> 
> Please help me to sort out the problem.

<URL:http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=dvips-pdf>

But there are quite more entries in the FAQ that are of interest for
your problem.

So after reading this entry, getting to the table of contents for the
FAQ and looking up other relevant entries might be a good idea.

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec  3 17:44:27 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (E. Krishnan)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 23:14:27 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] cross references.
In-Reply-To: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448EE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212032312110.1138-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, S. venkataraman wrote:

> Hi,
> I want to change the way the crossreference to figures,tables, equations
> etc work. 

Use the package varioref. Some explanation about its usage is given in the 
tugindia tutorial (the chapter on cross references).


-- 
Krishnan



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec  7 07:34:43 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Dr. Dinesh Karia)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:04:43 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Re: Indica-TeX
References: <20021202113508.78281.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901c29dc3$949e96c0$d527c5cb@default>

Dear Udayanbhai,
    Thanks for your reply. Let me brief you about the current development
taking place in India on the front of TeX. You must be aware of the
International Conference in Trivendrum. As a follow up, the ITUG (Indian TeX
User Group) is developing the enhancement in TeX, namely the Indian Language
support in TeX. Presently, the Devnagari is available. Some of the members
have developed a South Indian Language support. Being a part of the new
team, I was in search of some Gujaratis in the Group to form the local
chapter and develop the Gujarati. Unfortunately, there seems no Gujarati in
the group. So, I requested others. And Yoga gave your name.
    Now, about my knowledge of TeX/ LaTeX.

    I have been using LaTeX (MikTeX distribution) extensively. The self
study with the help of Indian TUG has enhance my knowledge to understand how
TeX works. As a result, I have primary knowledge of modifying classes and
style files. Still I have not written any class or style file of my own. As
far as other components, viz the font-design, tfm, type 1 fonts etc are
concerned, I am a novice. So, I too have to learn and develop the things so
that we can develop Gujarati fd, tfm etc.

    I guess you are not a member of the TeX user group. The group is run
really on Sahana Vavatu.... concept. So, I request you to join the group and
join me in, first understanding and then developing the Gujarati support in
TeX/LaTeX.

    In this regard when I posted my message to the group, H.S. Rai (a senior
group member) replied as follows. So, let us start from this point itself. I
am also posting the same message to both the groups (one for user the other
for advanced user). Let us see if some more resources are available.

**** Part of my request*********

>    So, once again I request the group members to give me the outline
>   of the project.

**** A reply from HSR*********
See if following mail by Frederick Noronha give you some information.

http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/prc/2002-December/000033.html

This mail give you article entitled:

  " THE  PENGUIN'S  MANTRA: Efforts are  on  to  find Indian  language
    solutions to GNU/Linux in the subcontinent that matters  "

At the end of this *long* mail you may find following link:

Pango http://www.pango.org
Graphite http://www.sil.org/computing/graphite/
Li18nux http://www.li18nux.org
Free Standards Group http://www.freestandards.org/
Mandrake http://www.mandrake.com
http://www.parabaas.com/Parabaas_Axar/index.html  (Bangla  editor  for
Linux, Java-based, runs on all platforms)

--
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--- [ a version of Murphy's law ] :-

If things seem to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

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Q. How can you drop a raw egg onto a concrete floor without cracking it?

A. Concrete floors are very hard to crack!

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mr Udayan Prajapati
  To: Dr. Dinesh Karia
  Cc: yoga@math.iisc.ernet.in
  Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 5:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Indica-TeX




  Dear Dineshbhai Karia,

  How are you? Hope fine. Yes I want to cooperate to u for the Gujarati
fonts and packages as a part of Indic-TeX. Explain the job which i should
do. I will inform Dr. Yoga. Sorry for late informing.

   "Dr. Dinesh Karia" <dineshjk@earth.planet.net.in> wrote:

    Dear Udayanbhai,

    How are you? Hope fine. By now you must have received a mail from Yoga
    (I guess he is the same Prof. Yogananda associated with INMO) about the
    development of Gujarati fonts and packages to be included as a part of
    Indic-TeX. If you are interested in joining the hands, please do write
to me
    with a copy to yoga@math.iisc.ernet.in By the way, how are the things
going
    on? You might be preparing for Rajkot GGM conference. I was also
supposed to
    be there and handle the business of the New UGC-syllabus panel
discussion
    but The UGC committee is visiting our university during 12-15, November
so,
    I could not come. Even A.B. Patel is not coming. (A first time that one
of
    the secretaries of GGM is not in the annual body!).

    Convey my regards to Mrs. Prasanna. She was telling me that she would be
    coming to VV Nagar during vacation for some reference work in our NBHM
    regional Library.

    Since I did not have your email address until now, today I am enclosing
    the copy of first News Letter of our Regional Library also.

    With regards,

    Sincerely yours

    Dinesh Karia

    > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/msword name=NBHM News Letter 1.doc




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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec  9 05:00:00 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Somendra M Bhattacharjee)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:30:00 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] New version of bangtex (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212091029100.1780-100000@polymer.ac.iopb.res.in>



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:04:49 -0500 (GMT)
From: Palash B Pal <pbpal@theory.saha.ernet.in>

Subject: New version of bangtex


I have just released a new version of bangtex. It contains the mathbang
package for using bangla in math mode, plus some other changes. Please
visit the bangtex page under my homepage (URL given below) for further
details.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Palash B Pal
Professor
Theory Group, Saha Institute of Nuclear Physics
1/AF Bidhan-Nagar, Calcutta 700064
http://tnp.saha.ernet.in/~pbpal
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec  9 16:55:21 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:25:21 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
In-Reply-To: <x5wumnl9ra.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212092137230.21452-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

Dear Kastrup,

On 6 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:

> (URL:http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/) or mirrors that I am
> surprised you should not be able to find it even after being told
> your Emacs is outdated.
	
	Sorry about that. I have now upgraded to XEmacs21.4.10. Ran the
configure with the XEmacs path as you suggested, after deleting the GS
check lines from configure.ini, as below

$ configure --with-xemacs="c:/XEmacs/XEmacs-21.4.10/i586-pc-win32/xemacs.exe"

The same error as earlier is encountered as shown below.

checking for install-info... /bin/true
checking for gs... NONE
configure: error: gs not found!  Aborting!
You must install Ghostscript for preview to work.

Seems like deleting that two lines from configure.ini doesnt help. There 
is a whole paragraph in configure, checking for GS, lines 1897 to 1943. 
Should I delete that too and run configure?

	Could you enlighten me as to what this link is supposed to do? Do 
you mean to say that a link(shortcut in windows slang) to gswin32.exe by 
the name gs would do the trick? If you could tell me what the function of 
this link I may be able to figure out what to do. If its easy that might 
be better to do that fudging the configure file.


> M-x load-library RET preview RET
> M-x customize-variable RET preview-gs-command RET
> enter your GhostScript executable name and Save for Future Sessions.
	
	If understand properly, this is all if the configure skips over 
the GS check...which is not happening now.

> But I would rather make sure that you can call GhostScript just by
> saying gs: this could save you trouble with other packages and
> upgrades later on.

	I will see how that is done in windows, as of now I dont know. 
Maybe copy gswin32.exe to gs.exe!?

> By the way: the bug reporting address for preview-latex is, as
> mentioned in the docs, preview-latex-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net.
> Once you have installed a basic set,
> M-x load-library RET preview RET
> M-x preview-report-bug RET
> can be used for submitting bug reports.

	I thought  you are asking me to write to that address... and 
had hence written there maybe two days back. 
with regards
Baburaj
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IISc, Bangalore, 560012                  Ph: 91 080 3942624,3942591,3600265  
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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec  9 19:23:32 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 09 Dec 2002 20:23:32 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212092137230.21452-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <x5ptsb574b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

"Baburaj A. Puthenveettil" <apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in> writes:

> $ configure --with-xemacs="c:/XEmacs/XEmacs-21.4.10/i586-pc-win32/xemacs.exe"
> 
> The same error as earlier is encountered as shown below.
> 
> checking for install-info... /bin/true
> checking for gs... NONE
> configure: error: gs not found!  Aborting!
> You must install Ghostscript for preview to work.
> 
> Seems like deleting that two lines from configure.ini doesnt help. There 
> is a whole paragraph in configure, checking for GS, lines 1897 to 1943. 
> Should I delete that too and run configure?

configure is generated from configure.in if you run ./autogen.sh.

> 	Could you enlighten me as to what this link is supposed to do? Do 
> you mean to say that a link(shortcut in windows slang) to gswin32.exe by 
> the name gs would do the trick?

Yes.

> If you could tell me what the function of this link I may be able to
> figure out what to do.

Having a command "gs" available at the command prompt.

> If its easy that might be better to do that fudging the configure
> file.

It should be very easy.  In Unix, you'd do

cd /usr/bin
ln -sf gswin32c gs

or something like that.

> > But I would rather make sure that you can call GhostScript just by
> > saying gs: this could save you trouble with other packages and
> > upgrades later on.
> 
> 	I will see how that is done in windows, as of now I dont know. 
> Maybe copy gswin32.exe to gs.exe!?

Sure, that should be one way.  But making a link would avoid the disk
space for that.

> 	I thought  you are asking me to write to that address... and 
> had hence written there maybe two days back. 

Not with the same info I received now.  I am struggling to keep up
with maintaining both preview-latex and AUC TeX and answering feature
requests and bug reports and coordinating releases.

I am sorry if at times I don't answer personally things which should
be as easy as to be answered by other people on the list which have
experience with Windows.

Making some sort of Link is a Windows problem, and I am probably one
out of ten persons that does not use Windows at all.

Is there nobody else indeed here that would know how to make one
command accessible under another name under that operating system?

I find that surprising.  And it should be in your documentation
somewhere.  This is really not much of a preview-latex problem.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 10 16:04:15 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Ganesh shenoy)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:34:15 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] [tug2003@tug.org (TUG 2003 conference)] TUG 2003 news, November 22, 2002
Message-ID: <01C2A093.E4195FA0@GANESH1>


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Hello,

My PC was formatted last week. I lost all my TeX installation.
I have TUG live CD with me.
Please let me know how can I install Texnicenter.


-Ganesh.

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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 10 17:20:37 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:50:37 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Ganesh: Installation
In-Reply-To: <01C2A093.E4195FA0@GANESH1>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212102243350.1042-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 9:34pm +0530 Ganesh shenoy wrote:

>   I have TUG live  CD with me Please let me know  how can I install.
>   Texnicenter                                                      .

IIRC,  TeXnicenter is  not  there  in TUG  live  CD. You  may need  to
download it from internet.

-- 
H.S.Rai

For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction.


From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 11 10:45:06 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Manjusha Joshi)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:15:06 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] [tug2003@tug.org (TUG 2003 conference)] TUG 2003 news, November 22, 2002
References: <01C2A093.E4195FA0@GANESH1>
Message-ID: <3DF71732.6020203@vsnl.com>

Ganesh shenoy wrote:

>Hello,
>
>My PC was formatted last week. I lost all my TeX installation.
>I have TUG live CD with me.
>Please let me know how can I install Texnicenter.
>
>
>-Ganesh.
>
> Part 1.2
>
> Content-Type:
>
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>
> base64
>
>
GOTO : www.ToolsCenter.org

And download it. Just few min.s. And it is of size 3.2 MB.

with best wishes,

Manjusha Joshi




From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 13 15:23:31 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Radhakrishnan CV)
Date: 13 Dec 2002 20:53:31 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] ["daudkhan ismail" <daudkhan@lycos.com>] fwd
Message-ID: <m3k7ieymbw.fsf@danube.river-valley.com>

Please dont use the word 'help' in the subject line, Mailman will
think that the subscriber wants help on list usage and will forward
the mail to tugindia-request@tug.org instead of to tugindia@tug.org.

Radhakrishnan

To: tugindia-request@tug.org
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:42:59 +0530
From: "daudkhan ismail" <daudkhan@lycos.com>
Subject: help
Cc: tugindia-admin@tug.org

Good Morning. Here is my doubt:

I want to make all lower case greek characters to upright shape
(generally it appears in itshape, and Upper case greek character are
flexible).

Pls. reply me at the earliest which sty file location i can choose to
modify or the command is avaible as we change upper case greek
characters to upright or itshape through the command mathnormal etc.

your descriptive reply would be more helpful to me.

Aslo I am using mathtime.sty along with my base font file. All the
greek characters i am getting in mtmi font only, though my base font
is different. Is it okey? or we have any option to change the greek
characters in desired font (ex: my base font is minion, but greek
characters are in MTMI).


Thanks in advance

kind regard

I. Khan

From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 08:28:50 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Nikhil Joshi)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 13:58:50 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Latex... some doubts ...
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141355170.734-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Hi!

I'm new member of this list.

I recently submitted my proj synopsis, over which the examiner was not at 
all impressed (spacing,indentation,et al...)

We had done the thing in Microsoft Word format ( I used Star Office while 
my colleagues Microsoft Office )

I researched a little and found out that groff and Latex are great doc
formatting (typesetting ?) tools. Also I discovered that mostly Latex is
preferred over groff. Now I've learnt Latex a little. However the pdf file
I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat
reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal?

Most probably we would print the project on a Windows machine ( i guess
very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ). One of my friends told me
that pdf files do not print quite well as compared with Microsoft Word
files. Is this correct?  I'm in a fix. I'm beginning to like Latex. But at
the same time I would not like to face problems with the printing and
stuff.

Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any
other good doc formatting system?  Please guide

Thx 
Nikhil



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 09:16:00 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:46:00 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Latex... some doubts ...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141355170.734-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141422300.2386-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 1:58pm +0530 Nikhil Joshi wrote:

>   I'm new member of this list.

Welcome Nikhil.

>   Most probably we would print the  project on a Windows machine ( i
>   guess very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ).

You can  prepare document in in  "ps" or "pdf" format  either on Linux
machine or  on M$ win machine. You  can take its print  on any PC. See
these are independent of operating system and computer architecture.

>   One of my friends  told me that pdf files do  not print quite well
>   as compared with Microsoft Word files. Is this correct?

He  is  ignorant or  M$  may  be paying  him. A  number  of books  and
technical journals by reputed publishers, are being processed with the
help of LaTeX.

>  I'm in a  fix. I'm beginning to like Latex. But at  the same time I
>  would not like to face problems with the printing and stuff.

Why you believe any one? Get a small document (may be one or two page)
printed and see  result your self. In case problem, come  to this list
or search FAQ on internet about LaTeX.

>   Has  anyone made  his/her  synopsis/report/article in  Latex ?  Is
>   there any other good doc formatting system?  Please guide

M.E. /  Ph.D thesis, books are  being composed in LateX. Even  you can
prepare presentation  with this. (What  your friends  will do  with M$
power point).

It is  good idea to  search archieve of a  mailing list or  use search
engine like "google.com". Also a good  subject line of your Email help
every one.

Here I quote  from a few previos  mails on this list as  a solution to
your problem:

============================================================

Can  you  not try  dvips  -Ppdf  foo.dvi  -o  foo.ps and  then  ps2pdf
foo.ps? Initially  I had  problems  with this  conversion. But once  I
updated my tetex, this works perfectly fine.

Dileep

===========================================================

Please visit:

http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=dvips-pdf

But there are quite  more entries in the FAQ that  are of interest for
your problem.

So after reading this entry, getting  to the table of contents for the
FAQ and looking up other relevant entries might be a good idea.

David Kastrup

=============================================================

Also visit:

http://www.tug.org/pipermail/tugindia/2002-November/001087.html

HTH

-- 
H.S.Rai

--- [ a version of Murphy's law ] :-

Left to themselves, things will go from bad to worse.






From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 12:31:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (A.Muthugopalakrishnan)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:01:07 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Hi.. Want to have the following in subsubsection
Message-ID: <3DFB248A.15AE7790@india.hp.com>

Hi,

I want to put the following in a \subsubsection, and I get
different characters (inverted question marks etc) for
the '>', '<' and '|' characters, running pdflatex in Linux.

Usage : abcd  <logFileName>  <append|trunc>

e.g.

\subsubsection{Usage : abcd  <logFileName>  <append|trunc>}

Any idea how to change the above to get the right display.

I am pretty novice with Latex, and this is my first document
in Latex.

Best REgards,
Muthugopalakrishnan A



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 14:00:06 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Nikhil Joshi)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 19:30:06 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Latex... some doubts ...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141422300.2386-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141855090.685-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, H S Rai wrote:

> Welcome Nikhil.

Thx :)

> Can  you  not try  dvips  -Ppdf  foo.dvi  -o  foo.ps and  then  ps2pdf
> foo.ps? Initially  I had  problems  with this  conversion. But once  I
> updated my tetex, this works perfectly fine.

when i gave the above commands i get following message from dvips:

dvips: warning: no config file for `pdf'

the version of dvips is : dvips(k) 5.86 
the version of tetex is : tetex-1.0.7-30
other relevant versions :
                          TeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159
                          kpathsea version 3.3.1


pls guide.
Thanks for your kind and considerate help

Regards
Nikhil



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 14:27:10 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 19:57:10 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Hi.. Want to have the following in subsubsection
In-Reply-To: <3DFB248A.15AE7790@india.hp.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141952360.1107-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 6:01pm +0530 A.Muthugopalakrishnan wrote:

>   I  want to  put  the  following in  a  \subsubsection,  and I  get
>   different characters  (inverted question  marks etc) for  the '>',
>   '<' and '|' characters, running pdflatex in Linux.

This is not a problem to put in \subsection only. In this way, you can
not put  any where. These are  "special" chracters and  demand special
treatment. Use in math mode i.e. with in $$, like:

$>$ some text $<$ then more text $|$

It is good to go through tutorial (online also available) and FAQ.

Happy TeXing,

-- 
H.S.Rai

Don't worry  that children never  listen to  you; worry that  they are
always watching you. - Robert Fulghum


From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 14:59:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:29:07 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Latex... some doubts ...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141855090.685-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212142027420.1807-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 7:30pm +0530 Nikhil Joshi wrote:

>   when i gave the above commands i get following message from dvips:
>
>   dvips: warning: no config file for `pdf'

Visit following:

http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/tugindia/2002-March/000280.html

HTH

-- 
H.S.Rai


--- [ a version of Murphy's law ] :-

If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it.





From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 15:17:51 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:47:51 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
In-Reply-To: <x5ptsb574b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141928440.23461-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

Dear Kastrup,
	
	Sorry to trouble you again. I could fix the link problem. Finally
I had to rely on ln command from of linux using msys. But there seems to
be some trouble with my TeXMF directory? Some files missing?

I ran configure with the following option m

 configure 
--with-xemacs="c:/XEmacs/XEmacs-21.4.10/i586-pc-win32/xemacs.exe" -
-with-texmf="d:/MiKTex/Local TeXMF"

My texmf directory is as shown in the command line option of 
configure(above)

checking for gs... ./gs
checking for latex... /d/MiKTeX/miktex/bin/latex
checking if LaTeX is installed 8-bit clean... yes
checking for tex... /d/MiKTeX/miktex/bin/tex
checking for texhash... no
checking for mktexlsr... no
checking for MakeTeXls-R... no
checking for makeinfo... makeinfo
checking for docstrip directory configuration... no
checking for TDS-compliant directory... ./configure: kpsepath: command not 
found
no
checking for TeX directory hierarchy... ./configure: kpsepath: command not 
found
no
checking for TeX input directory... ./configure: kpsepath: command not 
found
no
configure: error: Cannot find the texmf directory!  Please use 
--with-texmf=dir to specify where the preview tex files        go

There doesnt seem to be any program by name texhash and the other titles 
above in ..miktex/bin. Is this where these files should be? Is it 
that my MiKTeX installation is not complete?   
bye
regards
Baburaj


-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
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Office:                                       Current Residence:         
F.M.Lab, Dept of Mech Engg,                     U68, IISc           
IISc, Bangalore, 560012                  Ph: 91 080 3942624,3942591,3600265  
Ph: 91 080 3942302                                
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email: apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in, apbraj@rediffmail.com
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________________________________________________________________________________



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 16:00:20 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 21:30:20 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Latex... some doubts ...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141355170.734-100000@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141355170.734-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200212142130.20595.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

> We had done the thing in Microsoft Word format ( I used Star Office while
> my colleagues Microsoft Office )
 Well, naturally he wouldn't be impressed with the output because Word is not 
a typesetting tool.


> I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat
> reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal?
 That happens. What I found much better is to use pdflatex (pdflatex 
file.tex), which will directly give pdf output.

>
> Most probably we would print the project on a Windows machine ( i guess
> very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ). One of my friends told me

You can make a ps file (by dvips) and print it on any good laser printer 
supporting postscript by giving `type filename.ps > prn' , or by installing 
ghostscript on windows.  PDF is a very popular and good format, probably your 
friend doesn't have much idea about it.

>
> Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any
> other good doc formatting system?  Please guide
>
LaTeX is essential for all reports involving maths and any serious scientific 
publishing, so most theses and reports of Computer science, Maths etc. in 
IITs are written in LaTeX.  We are also using it for multilingual 
typesetting.

Amitabh

From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 16:03:41 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 21:33:41 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Hi.. Want to have the following in subsubsection
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141952360.1107-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141952360.1107-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212142133.41013.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

> This is not a problem to put in \subsection only. In this way, you can
> not put  any where. These are  "special" chracters and  demand special
> treatment. Use in math mode i.e. with in $$, like:
>
> $>$ some text $<$ then more text $|$
>
> It is good to go through tutorial (online also available) and FAQ.
 Thats important. You could try LaTeX in 90 minutes (lshort.dvi ) lying 
somewhere in your LaTeX installation or try the TUGIndia tutorials at our 
website, or buy Leslie Lamport's LaTeX book.

ATB,
Amitabh



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 16:08:08 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:08:08 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Hi.. Want to have the following in subsubsection
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141952360.1107-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212141608.gBEG88KN001246@localhost.localdomain>

H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in> writes:

> Today at 6:01pm +0530 A.Muthugopalakrishnan wrote:
> 
> >   I  want to  put  the  following in  a  \subsubsection,  and I  get
> >   different characters  (inverted question  marks etc) for  the '>',
> >   '<' and '|' characters, running pdflatex in Linux.
> 
> This is not a problem to put in \subsection only. In this way, you can
> not put  any where. These are  "special" chracters and  demand special
> treatment. Use in math mode i.e. with in $$, like:
> 
> $>$ some text $<$ then more text $|$
> 
> It is good to go through tutorial (online also available) and FAQ.

You'd better use \textless and \textgreater.  Or you can just specify
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
and have those characters available just by typing <>.

Or maybe you rather want $\langle$ and $\rangle$.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 16:31:10 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 14 Dec 2002 17:31:10 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141928440.23461-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <x5pts4imup.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

"Baburaj A. Puthenveettil" <apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in> writes:

> Dear Kastrup,
> 	
> 	Sorry to trouble you again.

I don't know how often I have to tell you to follow the bug reporting
instructions and mail to preview-latex-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net.  I
apologize to the list members of TUG India which must by now get tired
of this bug hunting sessions and copy this post to the bug list.

> 	I could fix the link problem. Finally I had to rely on ln
> command from of linux using msys. But there seems to be some trouble
> with my TeXMF directory? Some files missing?
> 
> I ran configure with the following option m
> 
>  configure 
> --with-xemacs="c:/XEmacs/XEmacs-21.4.10/i586-pc-win32/xemacs.exe" -
> -with-texmf="d:/MiKTex/Local TeXMF"

File names with spaces in them are asking for trouble.  I don't know
whether our configuration and installation scripts are as bomb-proof
as such paths demand.  But I would like them to be, so please do not
change this until we have worked out whether this may also be causing
problems.

> My texmf directory is as shown in the command line option of
> configure(above)

Had you followed installation instructions or taken a look at the
output of ./configure --help, you would have noticed that the option
is called --with-texmf-dir.

> checking for gs... ./gs
> checking for latex... /d/MiKTeX/miktex/bin/latex
> checking if LaTeX is installed 8-bit clean... yes
> checking for tex... /d/MiKTeX/miktex/bin/tex
> checking for texhash... no
> checking for mktexlsr... no
> checking for MakeTeXls-R... no
> checking for makeinfo... makeinfo
> checking for docstrip directory configuration... no
> checking for TDS-compliant directory... ./configure: kpsepath: command not 
> found
> no
> checking for TeX directory hierarchy... ./configure: kpsepath: command not 
> found
> no
> checking for TeX input directory... ./configure: kpsepath: command not 
> found
> no
> configure: error: Cannot find the texmf directory!  Please use 
> --with-texmf=dir to specify where the preview tex files        go

And this error message, I am afraid, is wrong about the option name.
Installation instructions, other documentation and usage info all have
the proper name, and you found the one location where it is still
spelled wrong.  Fixed in next release.

> There doesnt seem to be any program by name texhash and the other titles 
> above in ..miktex/bin. Is this where these files should be? Is it 
> that my MiKTeX installation is not complete?   

There must be some way to "refresh the file name database".  If you
tell us what it is, we might put it into future configure scripts.  If
you do this update yourself, things should work out, however, once you
use the correct option for specifying the texmf directory (in that
case, kpsepath should not get called, I think).


-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 14 21:02:32 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 02:32:32 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Indentations giving junk
Message-ID: <200212150232.32271.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

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Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,
 Seems something simple but I can't figure it out, and its causing  a lot=
 of=20
nuisance. loading the devnag package is causing my indentations (tabs) to=
=20
display junk characters, even in verbatim environment.
 What's happening?
 I am attaching the log and tex file.=20

Amitabh
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Content-Type: text/x-tex;
  charset="us-ascii";
  name="test.tex"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="test.tex"

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{dev}
\begin{document}

	Hello, how are you?
\end{document}

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Content-Type: text/x-log;
  charset="us-ascii";
  name="test.log"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="test.log"

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.7x) (format=latex 2002.11.18)  15 DEC 2002 02:27
**test.tex
(./test.tex
LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
Babel <v3.7h> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, ge
rman, ngerman, spanish, catalan, french, ukenglish, greek, italian, latin, russ
ian, ukrainian, loaded.
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo
File: size10.clo 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
\c@part=\count79
\c@section=\count80
\c@subsection=\count81
\c@subsubsection=\count82
\c@paragraph=\count83
\c@subparagraph=\count84
\c@figure=\count85
\c@table=\count86
\abovecaptionskip=\skip41
\belowcaptionskip=\skip42
\bibindent=\dimen102
)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/devanagr/dev.sty
File: dev.sty 1999/13/13 $Revision: 1.14 $. LaTeX2e macros to set up Velthuis D
evanagari font.
\dev@chnum=\count87
\itdim=\dimen103

(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/cite/cite.sty
Package: cite 2001/10/14  v 3.9
)

) (./test.aux)
\openout1 = `test.aux'.

LaTeX Font Info:    Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    ... okay on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    ... okay on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    ... okay on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    ... okay on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    ... okay on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    Checking defaults for U/dn/m/n on input line 3.
LaTeX Font Info:    Try loading font information for U+dn on input line 3.
 (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/devanagr/udn.fd
File: Udn.fd 1994/6/15
)
LaTeX Font Info:    ... okay on input line 3.
 [1

] (./test.aux) ) 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 331 strings out of 50534
 3173 string characters out of 1191948
 47528 words of memory out of 1500001
 3349 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+15000
 3640 words of font info for 14 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000
 256 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 23i,4n,19p,130b,162s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,1500p,200000b,5000s

Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 240 bytes).

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From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 15 09:29:44 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:59:44 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
In-Reply-To: <x5pts4imup.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212151454190.2090-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

On 14 Dec 2002, David Kastrup wrote:

> I don't know how often I have to tell you to follow the bug reporting
> instructions and mail to preview-latex-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net.  I
> apologize to the list members of TUG India which must by now get tired
> of this bug hunting sessions and copy this post to the bug list.

I am sorry, I had used the reply option forgetting Kastrups reminder.  
Please excuse me. I apologise to all the list members for the trouble
caused to them. 
with regards 
Baburaj

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
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IISc, Bangalore, 560012                  Ph: 91 080 3942624,3942591,3600265  
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Fax: 91 080 3600648 
email: apbabu@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in, apbraj@rediffmail.com
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________________________________________________________________________________




From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 15 14:24:11 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:54:11 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Indentations giving junk
In-Reply-To: <200212150232.32271.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212151950040.11163-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 2:32am +0530 Amitabh Trehan wrote:

>   ... loading the  devnag package is causing  my indentations (tabs)
>   to display junk characters, even in verbatim environment.

Never used devnag, so no  soution on that. But general observation. We
can not have indentations using  tabs. Spaces and Tabs are ignored and
\indent is required to do indentation.

But, it should not give junk in any case.

-- 
H.S.Rai

You work very hard.  Don't try to think as well.


From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 15 17:29:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:59:07 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Indentations giving junk
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212151950040.11163-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212151950040.11163-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212152259.07849.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

On Sunday 15 Dec 2002 7:54 pm, H S Rai wrote:
> Today at 2:32am +0530 Amitabh Trehan wrote:
> >   ... loading the  devnag package is causing  my indentations (tabs)
> >   to display junk characters, even in verbatim environment.
>
> Never used devnag, so no  soution on that. But general observation. We
> can not have indentations using  tabs. Spaces and Tabs are ignored and
> \indent is required to do indentation.
>
> But, it should not give junk in any case.
 I am sorry, I should clarify. The indentation is in the source file i.e. tab 
or similiar whitespace characters which are being read as ^^I by Latex.
As such, no indentation happens in the outpur but \Psi (i.e. the character Psi 
)  is printed whereever there was an indentation is in the source file. As 
you can now imagine, it'll look pretty poor for verbatimed text.
 If you could have a look at the log file, maybe it'll give some hint. 

regds,
Amitabh

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 15 19:06:17 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 00:36:17 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Indentations giving junk
In-Reply-To: <200212152259.07849.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212160032020.1209-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Amitabh Trehan wrote:

>   The  indentation  is in  the  source  file  i.e. tab  or  similiar
>   whitespace characters  which are being  read as ^^I by  Latex.  As
>   such,  no indentation  happens in  the outpur  but \Psi  (i.e. the
>   character Psi )  is printed whereever there was  an indentation is
>   in the source file. As you can now imagine, it'll look pretty poor
>   for verbatimed  text.  If you could  have a look at  the log file,
>   maybe it'll give some hint.

I could not find  any clue from log. Only I can  suggest you to filter
you source file, so that all tabs get replaced by 6 or 8 spaces as per
your requirement.

With regards,

-- 
H.S.Rai

Money can't  buy happiness,  but it can  make you  awfully comfortable
while you're being miserable. -- C.B. Luce


From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 16 04:29:48 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:59:48 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Error while previewing.
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A106E33D@ignou.ignou.ac.in>

> My texmf directory is as shown in the command line option of 
> configure(above)
> 
> checking for gs... ./gs
> checking for latex... /d/MiKTeX/miktex/bin/latex
> checking if LaTeX is installed 8-bit clean... yes
> checking for tex... /d/MiKTeX/miktex/bin/tex
> checking for texhash... no
> checking for mktexlsr... no
> checking for MakeTeXls-R... no
> checking for makeinfo... makeinfo
> checking for docstrip directory configuration... no
> checking for TDS-compliant directory... ./configure: kpsepath: command
> not 
> found
> no
> checking for TeX directory hierarchy... ./configure: kpsepath: command
> not 
> found
> no
> checking for TeX input directory... ./configure: kpsepath: command not
> 
> found
> no
> configure: error: Cannot find the texmf directory!  Please use 
> --with-texmf=dir to specify where the preview tex files        go
> 
> There doesnt seem to be any program by name texhash and the other
> titles 
> above in ..miktex/bin. Is this where these files should be? Is it 
> that my MiKTeX installation is not complete?   
	No, I don't think so.  Texhash is for updating(in lLinux) after
adding  new input files
	like .sty for .mf.  In miktex, this is done by initexmf (I have
forgotten the command line. You may have to look at the miktex manual
for that.)or  using start->Programs->mitex-> options -> update(or
whatever is appropriate for your installation.) . Kpathsea is also for 
	linux. If you want to update the files list you can use the
above route.  Things may work out fine. 
	Venkataraman

From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 16 11:32:13 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S.C.Phatak)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:02:13 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Latex... some doubts ...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212141355170.734-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0212161651020.10086-100000@phatak.ac.iopb.res.in>

On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Nikhil Joshi wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> 
> I researched a little and found out that groff and Latex are great doc
> formatting (typesetting ?) tools. Also I discovered that mostly Latex is
> preferred over groff. Now I've learnt Latex a little. However the pdf file
> I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat
> reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal?
>

I think you could generate ps file which you can print on most of the
printers. You can also view it with gv ( ghostview ). I think pdf is
useful if you have to send the file as it is smaller than ps file. 
 
> Most probably we would print the project on a Windows machine ( i guess
> very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ). One of my friends told me
> that pdf files do not print quite well as compared with Microsoft Word
> files. Is this correct?  I'm in a fix. I'm beginning to like Latex. But at
> the same time I would not like to face problems with the printing and
> stuff.
> 
ps files print very well on laser printers. If you are going to dtp guys
for just printing, ps file will do. If you want to make a large number of
copies, still a ps file printed on good laser printer is 'camera-ready'
and can be used for making an image for large scale printing.


> Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any
> other good doc formatting system?  Please guide
> 

Almost all reports, theses, manuscripts in physics ( and also mathematics
) are prepared by latex. Many publishers of journals as well as books now
want the manuscripts in latex with eps figures. If you ask me, nothing is
better for scientific publications.

Shashikant Phatak

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	Bhubaneswar 751 005  			email-	phatak@iopb.res.in


From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 16 11:58:03 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:28:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212161711100.1678-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

I installed and used "devnag" package to get output in Hindi, just out
of curiosity,  as it is not  my requirement. Though I have  never used
Hindi  or any  other  regional language,  but it  is  my feeling  that
"phonetic  based entry"  should be  bad as  compare to  normal way  of
typing because it seems un-natural to type Hindi in English. Anyhow, I
experimented little with dev and found it is very difficult to produce
what you want using preprocessor. Rather it is easier to type directly
in tex file and no need to use pre-processor.

I tries  to get my name  in Hindi. I failed to  get using preprocessor
after a large  number of trials, but  I could get it  while working in
tex file directly with much less number of trials.

"Hardeep Singh Rai" will be written in tex as "hrdFp Es\2G rAy"

What is the experience of other list members.

-- 
H.S.Rai

A computer program  will always do what  you tell it to  do but rarely
what you want to do.


From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 16 13:15:23 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Sumit Bhardwaj)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:45:23 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212161711100.1678-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212161711100.1678-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212161845.23195.bhardwajs@softhome.net>

Hi
I don't know about others but I, Prof. Wagish Shukla and Amitabh Trehan use 
devnag a lot and find it to be the best we can have. And in fact, I strongly 
believe that phonetic based entry is a practical way to get things done 
because since I speak five languages (3 scripts), I am not going to get 3 
keyboards.

Anyhow, I think "Sumit Bhardwaj" would be written as "sumIta bhAradvAja" with 
sanskrit mode in devnag  and "Hardeep Singh Rai" as "haradIpa siMha rAya".

You can get some consolation by the fact that devnag like tex has a learning 
curve and thus would take time.

Regards
Sumit

On Mon Dec 16 2002 17:28, H S Rai wrote:
> I installed and used "devnag" package to get output in Hindi, just out
> of curiosity,  as it is not  my requirement. Though I have  never used
> Hindi  or any  other  regional language,  but it  is  my feeling  that
> "phonetic  based entry"  should be  bad as  compare to  normal way  of
> typing because it seems un-natural to type Hindi in English. Anyhow, I
> experimented little with dev and found it is very difficult to produce
> what you want using preprocessor. Rather it is easier to type directly
> in tex file and no need to use pre-processor.
>
> I tries  to get my name  in Hindi. I failed to  get using preprocessor
> after a large  number of trials, but  I could get it  while working in
> tex file directly with much less number of trials.
>
> "Hardeep Singh Rai" will be written in tex as "hrdFp Es\2G rAy"
>
> What is the experience of other list members.

-- 
I am home from 12/18 18:00 IST to 01/06 18:00 IST. Please limit all electronic 
communication to the bare minimum during this period.
                                          - bhardwajs



From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 16 16:41:23 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Somendra M Bhattacharjee)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:11:23 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <200212161845.23195.bhardwajs@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212162107300.15128-100000@polymer.ac.iopb.res.in>

Hello,

In bangtex (for bangla) by P. B. Pal, (no preprocessor required)

Sumit Bharadwaj   --> su\*m*it bhorodWaj 
        (nonphonetic: suimt BrdWaj)     
Hardeep Singh Rai  -->  Hordiip \*s*iNNGH raI 
Somendra Bhattacharjee --> \*s*ea\*m*en/dRo bhoT/Tacar/JYo
                           (nonpho: esaemn/dR BT/Tacar/JY)

The problem, at least in Bangla, is that the way we spell a word  is not 
the way we write. (we say "me" of somen  as  "m e"  but write it as 
"e m" and "so" as  "e s a" !)
Juktakkhor (Bangla of ligature ) are written as built-in fractions, as one 
would in mathematics.
"o" is the unwriiten "o" sound.
(boson/to, bsn/t, boosoon/too all would give the same output, 
third one  useless, second one reduces the number of keystrokes, 
the first one makes the tex file readble.)
Similarly, bh may be replaced by B, but we are all biased by the existing
transliteration rules  for names (and that rule cannot depend on 
capitalization).    A few aapitals are special  like R, M, L and 
the independent vowles. 

There is definitely no harm is writing a noncomprehensible, yet 
processable, tex file but it pays to have a readable file. 
Also proofreading, changing, searching  etc becomes easier.

smb






From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 16 18:43:28 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (jayanta haldar)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:43:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Table
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212160032020.1209-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021216184328.57864.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I am Jayanta. I am a novice to this list. I have just
started learning LaTex with the help of one of my
friends who is also a member of this list. I could
generate my document by using LaTex and it really
looks very nice. 
 
Now I am facing some problems in tabular environments.
I want to have the width of one table same as the text
 width. From the net,  I could found that the
following commands will do the same.

\begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
......
\end{tabular*}

Though this environment make the table width same as
the textwidth, the contents inside the table is not
getting adjusted accordingly; thus making the table
ugly looking.

Could you please guide me in this regard?

Thanking you,

With best regards,

Jayanta.


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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 03:39:15 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:09:15 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <200212161845.23195.bhardwajs@softhome.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212161711100.1678-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in> <200212161845.23195.bhardwajs@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <200212170909.15507.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

On Monday 16 Dec 2002 6:45 pm, Sumit Bhardwaj wrote:
> Hi
strongly believe that phonetic based entry is a practical way to get things
> done because since I speak five languages (3 scripts), I am not going to
> get 3 keyboards.

> with sanskrit mode in devnag  and "Hardeep Singh Rai" as "haradIpa siMha
> rAya".
>

> > typing because it seems un-natural to type Hindi in English. Anyhow, I
> > experimented little with dev and found it is very difficult to produce
> > what you want using preprocessor. Rather it is easier to type directly
> > in tex file and no need to use pre-processor.
>

I agree with Sumit. We have used devnag extensively for 2 years now, and 
picking up the keyboard does not take more than maybe a day. The thing is, at 
least, the preprocessor based devnag keyboard is based on a good 
transliteration scheme, which respects the script construction as much as 
possible, therefore, if you know your stuff a bit like Sandhi, you can easily 
get on without the keybooard layout chart , after maybe a few sentences of 
typing.
 Rai, This maybe due to your major involvement with using TeX for maths!!! and 
at the lower level..

regds,

Amitabh


From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 04:01:32 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baskaran)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:31:32 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Table
Message-ID: <6FF5A3AAF796D61188A800D0B74780B30688E7@SPSDNS1>

Dear sir,

We can adjust column separation space by the command \tabcolsep

for example

{
\tabcolsep=8pt\begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
 ......
\end{tabular*}
}

Regards
baskaran nk

-----Original Message-----
From: jayanta haldar [mailto:multiheads@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:13 AM
To: tugindia@tug.org
Subject: [Tugindia] Table


Hello,

I am Jayanta. I am a novice to this list. I have just
started learning LaTex with the help of one of my
friends who is also a member of this list. I could
generate my document by using LaTex and it really
looks very nice. 
 
Now I am facing some problems in tabular environments.
I want to have the width of one table same as the text
 width. From the net,  I could found that the
following commands will do the same.

\begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
 ......
\end{tabular*}

Though this environment make the table width same as
the textwidth, the contents inside the table is not
getting adjusted accordingly; thus making the table
ugly looking.

Could you please guide me in this regard?

Thanking you,

With best regards,

Jayanta.


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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 04:30:27 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:00:27 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>

My experience was also similar.  I had typeset a form in that 
package.  I had a difficult time doing it.  For example, to get a halan
I had to use the path you adopted.
Let me reiterate what I have been saying before in this list.
I think Itrans is the best package for indian language typesetting.
The preprocessor is not tied to any language, but to a font. 

People working on windows
and  use
sanskrit can use Itranslator, a windows open source program written in
Delphi and
distributed by Omkarananda Ashram. You
to type in the text in one window and the sanskrit version appears on
the window below.
You can also insert Latex commands which it will ignore while carrying
out the transformation.
You can save the transliteration version, insert the latex commands, run
itrans and then
run latex to get the output. You can also save it as an RTF file and
open it and edit it in most 
of the word processing programmes like word, wordperfect, pagemaker etc.
It also generates html.
This program is widely used to convert the sanskrit documents in
www.alkhemy.com/sanskrit. 

As far as I know there is no such package for Linux.  Perhaps
the source code could be compiled using kylix, only experts who use
Kylix can tell.

Another route could be to create a package in elisp that converts the
text and shows in another 
window. May be something like preview-latex is better.
Venkataraman.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	H S Rai [SMTP:hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in]
> Sent:	Monday, December 16, 2002 5:28 PM
> To:	TugIndia
> Subject:	[Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
> 
> I installed and used "devnag" package to get output in Hindi, just out
> of curiosity,  as it is not  my requirement. Though I have  never used
> Hindi  or any  other  regional language,  but it  is  my feeling  that
> "phonetic  based entry"  should be  bad as  compare to  normal way  of
> typing because it seems un-natural to type Hindi in English. Anyhow, I
> experimented little with dev and found it is very difficult to produce
> what you want using preprocessor. Rather it is easier to type directly
> in tex file and no need to use pre-processor.
> 
> I tries  to get my name  in Hindi. I failed to  get using preprocessor
> after a large  number of trials, but  I could get it  while working in
> tex file directly with much less number of trials.
> 
> "Hardeep Singh Rai" will be written in tex as "hrdFp Es\2G rAy"
> 
> What is the experience of other list members.
> 
> -- 
> H.S.Rai
> 
> A computer program  will always do what  you tell it to  do but rarely
> what you want to do.
> 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 06:20:15 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:50:15 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171138001.1719-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 10:00am +0530 S. venkataraman wrote:

>   My experience was also similar. ...

Thanks to Sumit,  Somendra, Amitabh and Venkataraman  for sharing your
experience.

If information with  me is correct, then that imply  that some serious
work in  typesetting in Hindi is  done after about 10  year of release
"devnag" package. Now developer may not be  a heavy user, and if heavy
users are not there then package cannot be refined or developed.

Now which package is best? For this  the person who uses these package
are requested to have a chat  session among themselves and if possible
produce a comparative study to help others as well as to themselves.

IMHO, preprocessor technoque may be very beneficial, if you write some
thing to produce  right output in one language  (say Hindi). Then just
changing environment should produce  correct output for other language
i.e  then producing  output in  Punjabi, Gujrati,  Marathi, should  be
matter of changing environment. Is it so?

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 06:43:04 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Kapil Hari Paranjape)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:13:04 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
References: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <20021217064304.GA798@imsc.res.in>

Hello,

> As far as I know there is no such package for Linux.  Perhaps
> the source code could be compiled using kylix, only experts who use
> Kylix can tell.

You can always use emacs! In emacs you can type various
languages. With the appropriate buffer font (emacs21 is better here)
you can see the output on the screen while the underlying file has
some standard encoding.

I haven't typed much using this but it seems to work (upto the file
encoding part).

Regards,

Kapil.

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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 08:03:34 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:03:34 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
References: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <200212170803.gBH83Y0P009034@localhost.localdomain>

"S. venkataraman" <svenkat@ignou.ac.in> writes:

> Another route could be to create a package in elisp that converts
> the text and shows in another window. May be something like
> preview-latex is better.

preview-latex is ok for short quotes (though most preprocessor-based
schemes will need special support).  That is, it will be fine if I
write an English paper about the Indian language, or some Indian
literature.

But if the main matter is Indian, it would not really work
convincingly.  In that case, a better path to pursue would be to find
some Sanskrit screen fonts for Emacs, and use a system like cjk-enc
for writing out the transliterations on the fly.

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 08:31:59 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:01:59 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
Message-ID: <3DFEE0FF.2030908@vsnl.com>

Hi,

I am using miktex2.1 with windows 98. In my department everybody having 
epson LX-300 printers and they want to print dvi file with the printer 
from yap. From ghostview it is possible to print with same printer. But 
we want to setup it for yap which is dvi viewer.
I installed  wiondows driver for the printer, but still from 
yap->view->options->printer there is no option comes for LX-300.
Can anyone suggest with existing system how one can setup?

with best regards,

Manjusha Joshi


From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 10:57:23 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:27:23 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A1144903@ignou.ignou.ac.in>

Hi!
I do not use dotmatrix printer, but I have a small suggestion.
Set the printer mode in yap to an appropriate epson printer.  Then, try
again.
Best of luck,
Regards,
Venkataraman.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana [SMTP:bhaskara_p@vsnl.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:02 PM
> To:	tugindia@tug.org
> Subject:	[Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am using miktex2.1 with windows 98. In my department everybody
> having 
> epson LX-300 printers and they want to print dvi file with the printer
> 
> from yap. From ghostview it is possible to print with same printer.
> But 
> we want to setup it for yap which is dvi viewer.
> I installed  wiondows driver for the printer, but still from 
> yap->view->options->printer there is no option comes for LX-300.
> Can anyone suggest with existing system how one can setup?
> 
> with best regards,
> 
> Manjusha Joshi
> 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 14:33:02 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Nikhil Joshi)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:03:02 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212161711100.1678-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171951340.849-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, H S Rai wrote:

> what you want using preprocessor. Rather it is easier to type directly
> in tex file and no need to use pre-processor.

Hi!

Out of curiosity I too installed devnagiri pacakage and i was very much 
impressed with it. I mean I am a novice of tex ( its hardly a week since 
I've been using it :) ) and tell you what i've sent few mails using it in 
Marathi (my mother tongue)

Its a wonderful experience when you can express yourself in your own
mother tongue. Also I feel that typing Marathi in English is not much of a
bother after you get used to it.

There's a package called I-leap by CDAC but its commercial. I never 
thought I would be able to express myself in Marathi until I found 
devnagiri :)

Regards 
Nikhil




From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 16:02:31 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:31 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171951340.849-100000@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171951340.849-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200212172132.31728.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

> impressed with it. I mean I am a novice of tex ( its hardly a week since
> I've been using it :) ) and tell you what i've sent few mails using it in
> Marathi (my mother tongue)

wonderful. How did you send mails using it? (pdf attachments?).

Amitabh

From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 16:17:20 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:47:20 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171138001.1719-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171138001.1719-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <200212172147.20538.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

> If information with  me is correct, then that imply  that some serious
> work in  typesetting in Hindi is  done after about 10  year of release
> "devnag" package. Now developer may not be  a heavy user, and if heavy
> users are not there then package cannot be refined or developed.

 Thats completely true. In fact, my paper at the TUG conference highlighted 
this need. Here we've experimented with three packages - devnag, Sanskrit and 
ArabTeX. devnag is most  stable of the lost, it seems, but packages clash 
with each other. Seems like a language suite is required.  Wikner's Sanskrit 
is beautiful for the old look Sanskrit (bigger characters) and has an amazing 
range of diacritics.

>
> Now which package is best? For this  the person who uses these package

> thing to produce  right output in one language  (say Hindi). Then just
> changing environment should produce  correct output for other language
> i.e  then producing  output in  Punjabi, Gujrati,  Marathi, should  be
> matter of changing environment. Is it so?
 Can't say. But Anshuman Pandey is maintaining all these packages (devnag, 
gurmukhi etc etc.) and Itrans also (I believe).  It should not be too 
difficult to follow the same transliteration scheme for all languages with 
minor adjustments for 1 or 2 different characters. In fact, I am working on a 
common phonetic based encoding system for all indic scripts.

regds,
Amitabh


Amitabh

From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 01:18:25 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Nikhil Joshi)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 06:48:25 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <200212172132.31728.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Amitabh Trehan wrote:

> > I've been using it :) ) and tell you what i've sent few mails using it in
> > Marathi (my mother tongue)
> 
> wonderful. How did you send mails using it? (pdf attachments?).

yes i sent them as pdf attachments.
also i realized afterwards that if i convert pdf/ps files to jpg using 
ImageMagick's convert utility I need not worry whether the recipient has a 
Acrobat Reader or not.

Nikhil



From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 04:30:15 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:00:15 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Please help..
Message-ID: <002001c2a64e$2cbe8ae0$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Hello
I am in need of the details/documentation of the following packages :
-    prepicte.tex
- pictex.tex
- postpict.tex

Any suggestion about where I can get details/documentation of these
packages.
I confess! I am not an expert in LaTeX.. just a novice ! Please help.

Kind Regards,

Prabir




From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 04:45:27 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:15:27 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Installation of Gurmukhi font
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212181005440.2668-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Earkier I installed devnag package and font. I was successful (at
least it seems, as I was able to produce sample ouputs), but when
same procedure was repeated for Gurmukhi, I got error as given at
end. I installed like this:

1) Copy mf, tfm sty,fd files in /usr/share/texmf/gurmukhi and
softlinked it to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/RAI/gurmukhi

2) Executed texhash

Where I nedd to apply correction?

-- 
H.S.Rai

Errro I got:

================================================
Babel <v3.6Z> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman,
italian, portuges, russian, spanish, nohyphenation, loaded.
(gmmacs.tex
! Font \smallgm=grmk8 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
<to be read again>
                   \font
l.25 \font
          \ninegm=grmk9
?
! Emergency stop.
<to be read again>
                   \font
l.25 \font
          \ninegm=grmk9
================================================


From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 04:52:20 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:22:20 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <200212172147.20538.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212181017060.2668-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Yesterday at 9:47pm +0530 Amitabh Trehan wrote:

>    Thats completely true.

and then unforunate also :-(

>   In  fact,  my  paper  at  the  TUG  conference  highlighted  this
>   need. Here  we've  experimented  with three  packages  -  devnag,
>   Sanskrit  and ArabTeX.  devnag is  most  stable of  the lost,  it
>   seems, but packages clash with each other.

I  also find  similar problem  with other  packages. That mean,  there
should  strict guidelines  to write  packages and  developers need  to
follows  them also. (Let  us shift  it to  Indic-dev list,  if further
discussion in needed, I am posting it there also)

>   > thing to produce right output  in one language (say Hindi). Then
>   > just  changing environment  should  produce  correct output  for
>   > other language  i.e then  producing output in  Punjabi, Gujrati,
>   > Marathi, should be matter of changing environment. Is it so?
>
>    Can't say. But Anshuman Pandey  is maintaining all these packages
>   (devnag,  gurmukhi etc  etc.)  and Itrans  also  (I believe).   It
>   should not  be too  difficult to  follow the  same transliteration
>   scheme  for  all languages  with  minor  adjustments  for 1  or  2
>   different characters. In fact,  I am working on  a common phonetic
>   based encoding system for all indic scripts.

All the best

-- 
H.S.Rai

You work very hard.  Don't try to think as well.


From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 04:49:54 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:19:54 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A1144905@ignou.ignou.ac.in>

Hi,
Sorry, perhaps my earlier message was a bit cryptic and did not address
the issue.
  What I meant was that you 
should set the metafont mode for the correct epson dot matrix printer so
that
yap can create the .pk files necessary for printing an viewing.  In my
older version of
miktex(1.9), I found two Epson dot matrix printers, 
printers, 9 pin and 9pin landscape.  Try out the first one. It will
probably work.
 Regards,
Venkataraman

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana [SMTP:bhaskara_p@vsnl.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:02 PM
> To:	tugindia@tug.org
> Subject:	[Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am using miktex2.1 with windows 98. In my department everybody
> having 
> epson LX-300 printers and they want to print dvi file with the printer
> 
> from yap. From ghostview it is possible to print with same printer.
> But 
> we want to setup it for yap which is dvi viewer.
> I installed  wiondows driver for the printer, but still from 
> yap->view->options->printer there is no option comes for LX-300.
> Can anyone suggest with existing system how one can setup?
> 
> with best regards,
> 
> Manjusha Joshi
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia

From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 05:18:14 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dileep=20Padinjarae=20Vengasseri?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 05:18:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] multiple references under single entry.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171138001.1719-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021218051814.79261.qmail@web21414.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

There are some journals in Chemistry where multiple
references are put under single entry. Most of the
times this is done when there are some common criteria
among such references. Generally, in the bibliography,
It will be arranged as 1. a). First reference, b).
Seocnd reference etc. 
I would like to know how can I do such a referencing
in LaTex.


Manual modification of foo.bbl will do the job to a
certain extent so is the package mcite.sy ( I mean I
can put the references together). But, if I want to
cite only one of the grouped references somewhere else
in the text (for eg. say, 1b), I will not be able to
do that.

Please guide me.

Thanking you,

With best regards,

Dileep


 

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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 09:19:04 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Raj Singh)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:49:04 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Itranslator and Sanskrit
In-Reply-To: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212171256110.4049-100000@idg.ceeri.ernet.in>

> People working on windows and use sanskrit can use Itranslator, a windows
> open source program written in Delphi and distributed by Omkarananda
> Ashram. You can also save it as an RTF file and open it and edit it in
> most of the word processing programmes like word, wordperfect, pagemaker
> etc. It also generates html. This program is widely used to convert the
> sanskrit documents in www.alkhemy.com/sanskrit.

One can also use the fonts (sans98.ttf, ...) supplied with the programme
(itrans98) by Omkarananda Ashram directly in MS-Word -- but for that you
need to know the keyboard-to-font mapping. Needs a bit of practice.

I had showed itrans98 to C-DAC guys who had come to demo i-LEAP at our
institute about 3-4 years ago. They were quite impressed as they did not
have a equivalent of the on-the-fly transliteration/translation that
itran98 had as well as the Sanskrit support.

-- Raj

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From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 17 07:23:41 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Raj Singh)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:53:41 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Re: First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A11448FE@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212171218560.3918-100000@idg.ceeri.ernet.in>

> I installed and used "devnag" package to get output in Hindi, just out
> of curiosity, as it is not my requirement.

I have been using devnag package (on specific requirement basis) since
1991-92 period -- to get mixed Hindi-English or bilingual text output. I
found the devnag user's manual to be sufficient for getting my desired
output. One does need to experiment for complex ligature based words (e.g.  
"sraddhA, yaj~n, k.satriy, nak.satr, kak.sA, taMtr, yak.s). I found that
the matras (for i, I, e, E, o, O, au, ...) were better placed using devnag
than using Hindi fonts under MS-Word.

The example files of misspaal.dn, nehru.dn and song.dn also helped. As 
mentioned by some other users, after some time one gets used to typing the
required hindi words in romanised form quite easily.

> "Hardeep Singh Rai" will be written in tex as "hrdFp Es\2G rAy"

haradIp si.mh raay using devnag seems to be printing fine here.

-- Raj

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From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 06:46:32 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Satya)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:46:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tugindia] multiple references under single entry.
In-Reply-To: <20021218051814.79261.qmail@web21414.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021218051814.79261.qmail@web21414.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0212172244510.18242-100000@gort.cjb.net>

On Dec 18, 2002 at 05:18, Dileep Padinjarae Vengasseri wrote:

>can put the references together). But, if I want to
>cite only one of the grouped references somewhere else
>in the text (for eg. say, 1b), I will not be able to
>do that.

It seems to me that you should not be grouping that reference, in that
case.

(If you know what a basic block is, in the context of compilers, then
you'll understand exactly what I mean.)

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 07:48:53 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (jayanta haldar)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:48:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Table
In-Reply-To: <6FF5A3AAF796D61188A800D0B74780B30688E7@SPSDNS1>
Message-ID: <20021218074853.29605.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,
Thanks a lot. I colud make the table by using your
command.

regards
jayanta






> {
>
\tabcolsep=8pt\begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
>  ......
> \end{tabular*}
> }
> 




>
>  
> Now I am facing some problems in tabular
> environments.
> I want to have the width of one table same as the
> text
>  width. From the net,  I could found that the
> following commands will do the same.
> 
> \begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
>  ......
> \end{tabular*}
> 
> Though this environment make the table width same as
> the textwidth, the contents inside the table is not
> getting adjusted accordingly; thus making the table
> ugly looking.
> 
> Could you please guide me in this regard?
> 
> Thanking you,
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> Jayanta.
> 
> 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 08:37:31 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:37:31 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Please help..
References: <002001c2a64e$2cbe8ae0$cb0200c3@icmamwg>
Message-ID: <200212180837.gBI8bVOn001253@localhost.localdomain>

"ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:

> Hello
> I am in need of the details/documentation of the following packages :
> -    prepicte.tex
> - pictex.tex
> - postpict.tex
> 
> Any suggestion about where I can get details/documentation of these
> packages.
> I confess! I am not an expert in LaTeX.. just a novice ! Please help.

The documentation for PicTeX is proprietary, and I do not even knkow
whether it is still in print.

I would suggest that you consider using PStricks in case that
PostScript output via Dvips is an option for you.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 09:53:50 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:23:50 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Re: First impression of "devnag"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212171218560.3918-100000@idg.ceeri.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212181520210.4391-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Yesterday at 12:53pm +0530 Raj Singh wrote:

>   I found  that the  matras (for  i, I, e,  E, o,  O, au,  ...) were
>   better placed using devnag than using Hindi fonts under MS-Word.

Great!!

>   > "Hardeep Singh Rai" will be written in tex as "hrdFp Es\2G rAy"
>
>   haradIp si.mh raay using devnag seems to be printing fine here.

It did  not worked  for me. It  was almost correct,  but not  100%, It
produced following in TeX file:


 hrdF\qq{p} Es\2\qq{h} rA\qq{y}

i.e. \qq was extra in all three words.

-- 
H.S.Rai

Q:      How did you get into artificial intelligence?
A:      Seemed logical -- I didn't have any real intelligence.


From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 10:50:42 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:20:42 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
References: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A1144903@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <3E005302.8010600@vsnl.com>

Hi,

Thanks for the reply!
I already tried similar options for epson printer.
Now I got one alternative, in yap there is postscript printer button, so 
it make automatically dvips of the file and prints.
If there is other smart alternative, we are in search of it.

with best wishes,
Manjusha Joshi



S. venkataraman wrote:

>Hi!
>I do not use dotmatrix printer, but I have a small suggestion.
>Set the printer mode in yap to an appropriate epson printer.  Then, try
>again.
>Best of luck,
>Regards,
>Venkataraman.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:	Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana [SMTP:bhaskara_p@vsnl.com]
>>Sent:	Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:02 PM
>>To:	tugindia@tug.org
>>Subject:	[Tugindia] yap doesnot print with lx300 Printer
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am using miktex2.1 with windows 98. In my department everybody
>>having 
>>epson LX-300 printers and they want to print dvi file with the printer
>>
>>from yap. From ghostview it is possible to print with same printer.
>>But 
>>we want to setup it for yap which is dvi viewer.
>>I installed  wiondows driver for the printer, but still from 
>>yap->view->options->printer there is no option comes for LX-300.
>>Can anyone suggest with existing system how one can setup?
>>
>>with best regards,
>>
>>Manjusha Joshi
>>
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From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 18:07:36 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Ajay Shah)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:37:36 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Help - GOI style paragraph numbering
Message-ID: <20021218180736.GG769@igidr.ac.in>

As you may know, documents produced in the GOI have numbering for
every paragraph. There are two styles. One case is hierarchical: In a
section 2.5, the first para is 2.5.1, etc. Alternatively, the document
starts with para 1 and the para number just increments through the
entire document.

How might we achieve these effects in latex?

Thanks,

    -ans.

-- 
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Ministry of Finance, New Delhi

From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 10:25:00 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:55:00 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] dotted line..
Message-ID: <00cf01c2a748$e65b1d10$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Hello

How to make following line a dotten one with light grey shade ? Please
help..

        \putrule from -2.2 0 to 1.3 0
        \putrule from 0 -2.3 to 0 .6

Regards,

Prabir


From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 11:08:06 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:38:06 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Graphics problem
Message-ID: <010701c2a74e$ec27bc70$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

I want to put the eps file in place on a page. The latex file is placed
below for your kind perusal. in case of Bin1990-14.eps it is
working fine while the other files are partially coming. Full map is not
appearing on the page. I want to put it on a particular location of the
page, and will try to overflow the texts around the graph.

Could you please suggest what is the problem?

Regards,

Prabir


____________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________

\documentclass [11 pt,a4 paper]{article} %%date 03 December,2002%%
\usepackage{graphicx}
%\usepackage[draft]{graphicx}
\begin{document}
\begin {figure}
%\begin{center}
%\clearpage
 \centering
              %\includegraphics [height=10cm, width=12cm]{test.eps} %%  1
working partially%%
              %\includegraphics [height=2cm]{2KCountry4.eps} %% 2 working
partially%%
               \fbox{\includegraphics
[width=10cm,height=9cm]{BIN1990-14.eps}}%%% 3 THIS IS WORKING FINE,
111202%%%
               \caption  {test caption....without border}
             \label{Fig}

              %\includegraphics {rightmap.txt}
              %\lebel{Fig}
       %\end{center}
  \end{figure}
  \end{document}
____________________________________________________________________________
______________________________________


From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 11:25:18 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 19 Dec 2002 12:25:18 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] PStricks
Message-ID: <x5u1hacktd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

There is little sense into reverting a subject of interest to private
Email from the list.  In particular if you have configured your mail
system to bounce messages sent to you.  So back to the list:

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in
    SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<David.Kastrup@t-online.de> SIZE=3424:
    host vastu.nic.in [164.100.17.17]: 553 5.3.0 <David.Kastrup@t-online.de>... blocked

"ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:

> Thank you David for your kind response. So far I have only one response !
> Could you please let me know where
> from I get the documentation of PStricks ? I have a small file which was
> sent by somebody to me.. I have to produce
> similar kind of maps. If you have time & allow me I can send you for your
> further suggestions. In that case you will
> have some idea about the kind of output required by me.

PStricks comes with documentation.  There is a site devoted to it at
<URL:http://www.tug.org/applications/PSTricks/>, too.

One thing to be noted is that the documentation has been left in a
state of incompleteness: there are two volumes of "beta"
documentation documenting new features, and there are 4 volumes of
"obsolete" documentation documenting features that existed before
that.  Those documentations have never been merged, so this is a bit
inconvenient.

> - For pictex documentation what would be the prospective places I
> can start a search for...

As I said: pictex documentation is proprietary.  The manual must be
bought, and I don't even know whether it is still in print.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 13:39:22 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manoj=20Kummini?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:39:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] Help - GOI style paragraph numbering
In-Reply-To: <20021218180736.GG769@igidr.ac.in>
Message-ID: <20021219133922.24760.qmail@web10409.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Ajay Shah <ajayshah@mayin.org> wrote: 
> As you may know, documents produced in the GOI have numbering for
> every paragraph. There are two styles. One case is hierarchical: In
> a
> section 2.5, the first para is 2.5.1, etc. Alternatively, the
> document
> starts with para 1 and the para number just increments through the
> entire document.
> 
> How might we achieve these effects in latex?

The former can be done by adding these lines before \begin{document}

\makeatletter
\@addtoreset{equation}{subsection}
\renewcommand\theparagraph{\thesubsection.\@arabic\c@paragraph}
\makeatother
\setcounter{secnumdepth}{5}

By default, the counter for paragraph is reset everytime a new
section begins. I do not know how this can be disabled. This should
be something opposite to what \@addtoreset does.

Manoj.



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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 14:56:11 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:26:11 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Graphics problem
In-Reply-To: <010701c2a74e$ec27bc70$cb0200c3@icmamwg>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212192023120.2991-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 4:38pm +0530 ICM wrote:

>   Full map is not appearing on the page.

Try in this manner:

\resizebox*{0.8\columnwidth}{!}{\includegraphics{yourMap.eps}

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 02:36:20 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (E. Krishnan)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:06:20 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Help - GOI style paragraph numbering
In-Reply-To: <20021218180736.GG769@igidr.ac.in>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212190756540.1864-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Ajay Shah wrote:

> As you may know, documents produced in the GOI have numbering for
> every paragraph. 

> How might we achieve these effects in latex?

There is a sectioning  command named \paragraph in LaTeX, but by default, 
paragraphs are not numbered. You can get numbered paragraphs, by setting 
the counter "secnumdepth" to 4. If you need some special formatting, such 
as numbers sticking out of the left margin, you'll have to tweak the 
"\@startsection" command a bit. 

I don't know GOI, so I don't know the *style* of numbering in that. If you 
give specific details of how you want the numbers to be formatted, I can 
give more details. Both styles you refer to can be achieved.
 
-- 
Krishnan




From tugindia@tug.org  Wed Dec 18 01:30:19 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (E. Krishnan)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:00:19 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Table
In-Reply-To: <20021216184328.57864.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212180634540.1042-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, jayanta haldar wrote:

> Now I am facing some problems in tabular environments.
> I want to have the width of one table same as the text
>  width. From the net,  I could found that the
> following commands will do the same.
> 
> \begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
>  ......
> \end{tabular*}
> 
> Though this environment make the table width same as
> the textwidth, the contents inside the table is not
> getting adjusted accordingly; thus making the table
> ugly looking.

Try the package tabularx. It adjusts column widths instead of inter-column 
spaces as tabular* does.

-- 
Krishnan



From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 19:45:43 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:15:43 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Table: Centering in fixed width of column
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212200108560.1518-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Is there any easy way to center  justify enteries in a column of fixed
width. If I  use |p{wd}|,  then I  have it  write \centering  for each
entry. If I use |c|, then I  don't get fixed width of column. For some
reason I need  all columns of same width, with  data center justified.
Don't we have something like |c{1in}| ?

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 19:47:17 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 19 Dec 2002 20:47:17 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Table: Centering in fixed width of column
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212200108560.1518-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212200108560.1518-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <x5el8dlrju.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in> writes:

> Is there any easy way to center  justify enteries in a column of fixed
> width. If I  use |p{wd}|,  then I  have it  write \centering  for each
> entry. If I use |c|, then I  don't get fixed width of column. For some
> reason I need  all columns of same width, with  data center justified.
> Don't we have something like |c{1in}| ?

\usepackage{array}

|>{\centering}p{1in}|

Note that \\ will be used for separating paragraphs now, so you will
have to use \tabularnewline to end a line of the table.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 20:58:05 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:28:05 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Table: Centering in fixed width of column
In-Reply-To: <x5el8dlrju.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212200226430.2063-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Yesterday at 8:47pm +0100 David Kastrup wrote:

>   > Don't we have something like |c{1in}| ?
>
>   \usepackage{array}
>
>   |>{\centering}p{1in}|
>
>   Note that \\ will be used for separating paragraphs now, so you will
>   have to use \tabularnewline to end a line of the table.

Thank you Mr. David for solution.

-- 
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than the estimate the job will cost.


From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 04:22:04 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:52:04 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] dotted line..
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A1144907@ignou.ignou.ac.in>

Hi,
I cannot recognise the package you seem to be using.  
But what you want to do can be done very easily done with 
pstricks.  For a line joining points (a,b) and (c,d),
 the command in pstricks is \psline[options](a,b)(c,d), where in the 
options you can set the line colour, linestyle, line width etc.  Take a
look 
at the pstricks documentation.  Even the first chapter may be enough.
Regards,
S.Venkataraman
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	ICM [SMTP:prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in]
> Sent:	Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:55 PM
> To:	tugindia@tug.org
> Subject:	[Tugindia] dotted line..
> 
> Hello
> 
> How to make following line a dotten one with light grey shade ? Please
> help..
> 
>         \putrule from -2.2 0 to 1.3 0
>         \putrule from 0 -2.3 to 0 .6
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Prabir
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 05:31:59 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:01:59 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] dotted line..
References: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A1144907@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <002601c2a7e9$216ceb40$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Hi
Thanks for the response. I am trying with pictex, prepicte and postpict
packages.
I have not tried with pstricks. I have got some suggestions regarding
pstricks.
I would like to give it a try..
If you happen to know how to do it using pictex, please let me know, as
I have already put in some effort and going to finalise the map..

Regards,

Prabir



----- Original Message -----
From: S. venkataraman <svenkat@ignou.ac.in>
To: <tugindia@tug.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Tugindia] dotted line..


> Hi,
> I cannot recognise the package you seem to be using.
> But what you want to do can be done very easily done with
> pstricks.  For a line joining points (a,b) and (c,d),
>  the command in pstricks is \psline[options](a,b)(c,d), where in the
> options you can set the line colour, linestyle, line width etc.  Take a
> look
> at the pstricks documentation.  Even the first chapter may be enough.
> Regards,
> S.Venkataraman
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ICM [SMTP:prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:55 PM
> > To: tugindia@tug.org
> > Subject: [Tugindia] dotted line..
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > How to make following line a dotten one with light grey shade ? Please
> > help..
> >
> >         \putrule from -2.2 0 to 1.3 0
> >         \putrule from 0 -2.3 to 0 .6
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Prabir
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> > unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
> _______________________________________________
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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 05:41:31 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:11:31 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] PStricks
References: <x5u1hacktd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
Message-ID: <003001c2a7ea$75cde990$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Thanks for the response. Some problem with my e-mail.. I have not configured
my mail.. let me see what is the problem..
- I would like to try pstricks .. thanks for the suggestion. I have got some
other suggestion for pstricks.

Regards
Prabir




----- Original Message -----
From: David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de>
To: <tugindia@tug.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: [Tugindia] PStricks


>
> There is little sense into reverting a subject of interest to private
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>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
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> "ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:
>
> > Thank you David for your kind response. So far I have only one response
!
> > Could you please let me know where
> > from I get the documentation of PStricks ? I have a small file which was
> > sent by somebody to me.. I have to produce
> > similar kind of maps. If you have time & allow me I can send you for
your
> > further suggestions. In that case you will
> > have some idea about the kind of output required by me.
>
> PStricks comes with documentation.  There is a site devoted to it at
> <URL:http://www.tug.org/applications/PSTricks/>, too.
>
> One thing to be noted is that the documentation has been left in a
> state of incompleteness: there are two volumes of "beta"
> documentation documenting new features, and there are 4 volumes of
> "obsolete" documentation documenting features that existed before
> that.  Those documentations have never been merged, so this is a bit
> inconvenient.
>
> > - For pictex documentation what would be the prospective places I
> > can start a search for...
>
> As I said: pictex documentation is proprietary.  The manual must be
> bought, and I don't even know whether it is still in print.
>
> --
> David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
> _______________________________________________
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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 09:06:17 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Radhakrishnan CV)
Date: 20 Dec 2002 14:36:17 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] PStricks
In-Reply-To: <003001c2a7ea$75cde990$cb0200c3@icmamwg>
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>>>>> "ICM" == ICM  <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:

    ICM> Thanks for the response. Some problem with my e-mail.. I have
    ICM> not configured my mail.. let me see what is the problem..  -
    ICM> I would like to try pstricks .. thanks for the suggestion. I
    ICM> have got some other suggestion for pstricks.

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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 14:07:01 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:37:01 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] GIF file
Message-ID: <00d501c2a831$14039c40$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Hello 
How to put a gif graphics file in latex ?

Thanks 
Prabir




From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 12:04:12 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Manoranjan B)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:34:12 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Re: Tugindia digest, Vol 1 #74 - 13 msgs
References: <20021220110004.24515.10370.Mailman@tug.org>
Message-ID: <000201c2a834$5f19fe60$0b64a8c0@111>

is there any FTP site from where I can download various Style files?


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>    4. Re: Graphics problem (H S Rai)
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>    6. Re: Table (E. Krishnan)
>    7. Table: Centering in fixed width of column (H S Rai)
>    8. Re: Table: Centering in fixed width of column (David Kastrup)
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>   10. RE: dotted line.. (S. venkataraman)
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> Message: 1
> From: "ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in>
> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:38:06 +0530
> Subject: [Tugindia] Graphics problem
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> I want to put the eps file in place on a page. The latex file is placed
> below for your kind perusal. in case of Bin1990-14.eps it is
> working fine while the other files are partially coming. Full map is not
> appearing on the page. I want to put it on a particular location of the
> page, and will try to overflow the texts around the graph.
>
> Could you please suggest what is the problem?
>
> Regards,
>
> Prabir
>
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> __________________________________
>
> \documentclass [11 pt,a4 paper]{article} %%date 03 December,2002%%
> \usepackage{graphicx}
> %\usepackage[draft]{graphicx}
> \begin{document}
> \begin {figure}
> %\begin{center}
> %\clearpage
>  \centering
>               %\includegraphics [height=10cm, width=12cm]{test.eps} %%  1
> working partially%%
>               %\includegraphics [height=2cm]{2KCountry4.eps} %% 2 working
> partially%%
>                \fbox{\includegraphics
> [width=10cm,height=9cm]{BIN1990-14.eps}}%%% 3 THIS IS WORKING FINE,
> 111202%%%
>                \caption  {test caption....without border}
>              \label{Fig}
>
>               %\includegraphics {rightmap.txt}
>               %\lebel{Fig}
>        %\end{center}
>   \end{figure}
>   \end{document}
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ______________________________________
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> From: David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup)
> To: tugindia@tug.org
> Date: 19 Dec 2002 12:25:18 +0100
> Subject: [Tugindia] PStricks
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
>
> There is little sense into reverting a subject of interest to private
> Email from the list.  In particular if you have configured your mail
> system to bounce messages sent to you.  So back to the list:
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
>   prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in
>     SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL
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>
> "ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:
>
> > Thank you David for your kind response. So far I have only one response
!
> > Could you please let me know where
> > from I get the documentation of PStricks ? I have a small file which was
> > sent by somebody to me.. I have to produce
> > similar kind of maps. If you have time & allow me I can send you for
your
> > further suggestions. In that case you will
> > have some idea about the kind of output required by me.
>
> PStricks comes with documentation.  There is a site devoted to it at
> <URL:http://www.tug.org/applications/PSTricks/>, too.
>
> One thing to be noted is that the documentation has been left in a
> state of incompleteness: there are two volumes of "beta"
> documentation documenting new features, and there are 4 volumes of
> "obsolete" documentation documenting features that existed before
> that.  Those documentations have never been merged, so this is a bit
> inconvenient.
>
> > - For pictex documentation what would be the prospective places I
> > can start a search for...
>
> As I said: pictex documentation is proprietary.  The manual must be
> bought, and I don't even know whether it is still in print.
>
> --
> David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:39:22 +0000 (GMT)
> From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manoj=20Kummini?= <kummini@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Help - GOI style paragraph numbering
> To: tugindia@tug.org
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
>  --- Ajay Shah <ajayshah@mayin.org> wrote:
> > As you may know, documents produced in the GOI have numbering for
> > every paragraph. There are two styles. One case is hierarchical: In
> > a
> > section 2.5, the first para is 2.5.1, etc. Alternatively, the
> > document
> > starts with para 1 and the para number just increments through the
> > entire document.
> >
> > How might we achieve these effects in latex?
>
> The former can be done by adding these lines before \begin{document}
>
> \makeatletter
> \@addtoreset{equation}{subsection}
> \renewcommand\theparagraph{\thesubsection.\@arabic\c@paragraph}
> \makeatother
> \setcounter{secnumdepth}{5}
>
> By default, the counter for paragraph is reset everytime a new
> section begins. I do not know how this can be disabled. This should
> be something opposite to what \@addtoreset does.
>
> Manoj.
>
>
>
> =====
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:26:11 +0530 (IST)
> From: H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in>
> To: TugIndia <tugindia@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Graphics problem
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> Today at 4:38pm +0530 ICM wrote:
>
> >   Full map is not appearing on the page.
>
> Try in this manner:
>
> \resizebox*{0.8\columnwidth}{!}{\includegraphics{yourMap.eps}
>
> --
> H.S.Rai
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:06:20 +0530 (IST)
> From: "E. Krishnan" <ekmath@md5.vsnl.net.in>
> To: TUG-India <tugindia@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Help - GOI style paragraph numbering
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Ajay Shah wrote:
>
> > As you may know, documents produced in the GOI have numbering for
> > every paragraph.
>
> > How might we achieve these effects in latex?
>
> There is a sectioning  command named \paragraph in LaTeX, but by default,
> paragraphs are not numbered. You can get numbered paragraphs, by setting
> the counter "secnumdepth" to 4. If you need some special formatting, such
> as numbers sticking out of the left margin, you'll have to tweak the
> "\@startsection" command a bit.
>
> I don't know GOI, so I don't know the *style* of numbering in that. If you
> give specific details of how you want the numbers to be formatted, I can
> give more details. Both styles you refer to can be achieved.
>
> --
> Krishnan
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:00:19 +0530 (IST)
> From: "E. Krishnan" <ekmath@md5.vsnl.net.in>
> To: tugindia@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Table
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, jayanta haldar wrote:
>
> > Now I am facing some problems in tabular environments.
> > I want to have the width of one table same as the text
> >  width. From the net,  I could found that the
> > following commands will do the same.
> >
> > \begin{tabular*}[\textwidth]{C|C|...etc}
> >  ......
> > \end{tabular*}
> >
> > Though this environment make the table width same as
> > the textwidth, the contents inside the table is not
> > getting adjusted accordingly; thus making the table
> > ugly looking.
>
> Try the package tabularx. It adjusts column widths instead of inter-column
> spaces as tabular* does.
>
> --
> Krishnan
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:15:43 +0530 (IST)
> From: H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in>
> To: TugIndia <tugindia@tug.org>
> Subject: [Tugindia] Table: Centering in fixed width of column
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> Is there any easy way to center  justify enteries in a column of fixed
> width. If I  use |p{wd}|,  then I  have it  write \centering  for each
> entry. If I use |c|, then I  don't get fixed width of column. For some
> reason I need  all columns of same width, with  data center justified.
> Don't we have something like |c{1in}| ?
>
> --
> H.S.Rai
>
> - Use Linux save foreign exchange. (M$ takes $330 million each year)
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>
> Message: 8
> From: David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup)
> To: tugindia@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Table: Centering in fixed width of column
> Date: 19 Dec 2002 20:47:17 +0100
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in> writes:
>
> > Is there any easy way to center  justify enteries in a column of fixed
> > width. If I  use |p{wd}|,  then I  have it  write \centering  for each
> > entry. If I use |c|, then I  don't get fixed width of column. For some
> > reason I need  all columns of same width, with  data center justified.
> > Don't we have something like |c{1in}| ?
>
> \usepackage{array}
>
> |>{\centering}p{1in}|
>
> Note that \\ will be used for separating paragraphs now, so you will
> have to use \tabularnewline to end a line of the table.
>
> --
> David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:28:05 +0530 (IST)
> From: H S Rai <hsraidce@iitr.ernet.in>
> To: TugIndia <tugindia@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Table: Centering in fixed width of column
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> Yesterday at 8:47pm +0100 David Kastrup wrote:
>
> >   > Don't we have something like |c{1in}| ?
> >
> >   \usepackage{array}
> >
> >   |>{\centering}p{1in}|
> >
> >   Note that \\ will be used for separating paragraphs now, so you will
> >   have to use \tabularnewline to end a line of the table.
>
> Thank you Mr. David for solution.
>
> --
> H.S.Rai
>
> Computers will not be perfected until they can compute how much more
> than the estimate the job will cost.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Subject: RE: [Tugindia] dotted line..
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:52:04 +0530
> From: "S. venkataraman" <svenkat@ignou.ac.in>
> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> Hi,
> I cannot recognise the package you seem to be using.
> But what you want to do can be done very easily done with
> pstricks.  For a line joining points (a,b) and (c,d),
>  the command in pstricks is \psline[options](a,b)(c,d), where in the
> options you can set the line colour, linestyle, line width etc.  Take a
> look
> at the pstricks documentation.  Even the first chapter may be enough.
> Regards,
> S.Venkataraman
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ICM [SMTP:prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:55 PM
> > To: tugindia@tug.org
> > Subject: [Tugindia] dotted line..
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > How to make following line a dotten one with light grey shade ? Please
> > help..
> >
> >         \putrule from -2.2 0 to 1.3 0
> >         \putrule from 0 -2.3 to 0 .6
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Prabir
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> > unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in>
> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] dotted line..
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:01:59 +0530
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> Hi
> Thanks for the response. I am trying with pictex, prepicte and postpict
> packages.
> I have not tried with pstricks. I have got some suggestions regarding
> pstricks.
> I would like to give it a try..
> If you happen to know how to do it using pictex, please let me know, as
> I have already put in some effort and going to finalise the map..
>
> Regards,
>
> Prabir
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: S. venkataraman <svenkat@ignou.ac.in>
> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [Tugindia] dotted line..
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I cannot recognise the package you seem to be using.
> > But what you want to do can be done very easily done with
> > pstricks.  For a line joining points (a,b) and (c,d),
> >  the command in pstricks is \psline[options](a,b)(c,d), where in the
> > options you can set the line colour, linestyle, line width etc.  Take a
> > look
> > at the pstricks documentation.  Even the first chapter may be enough.
> > Regards,
> > S.Venkataraman
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ICM [SMTP:prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:55 PM
> > > To: tugindia@tug.org
> > > Subject: [Tugindia] dotted line..
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > How to make following line a dotten one with light grey shade ? Please
> > > help..
> > >
> > >         \putrule from -2.2 0 to 1.3 0
> > >         \putrule from 0 -2.3 to 0 .6
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Prabir
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> > > unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
> > _______________________________________________
> > Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> > unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: "ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in>
> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] PStricks
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:11:31 +0530
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> Thanks for the response. Some problem with my e-mail.. I have not
configured
> my mail.. let me see what is the problem..
> - I would like to try pstricks .. thanks for the suggestion. I have got
some
> other suggestion for pstricks.
>
> Regards
> Prabir
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de>
> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:55 PM
> Subject: [Tugindia] PStricks
>
>
> >
> > There is little sense into reverting a subject of interest to private
> > Email from the list.  In particular if you have configured your mail
> > system to bounce messages sent to you.  So back to the list:
> >
> > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> >
> >   prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in
> >     SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL
> FROM:<David.Kastrup@t-online.de> SIZE=3424:
> >     host vastu.nic.in [164.100.17.17]: 553 5.3.0
> <David.Kastrup@t-online.de>... blocked
> >
> > "ICM" <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:
> >
> > > Thank you David for your kind response. So far I have only one
response
> !
> > > Could you please let me know where
> > > from I get the documentation of PStricks ? I have a small file which
was
> > > sent by somebody to me.. I have to produce
> > > similar kind of maps. If you have time & allow me I can send you for
> your
> > > further suggestions. In that case you will
> > > have some idea about the kind of output required by me.
> >
> > PStricks comes with documentation.  There is a site devoted to it at
> > <URL:http://www.tug.org/applications/PSTricks/>, too.
> >
> > One thing to be noted is that the documentation has been left in a
> > state of incompleteness: there are two volumes of "beta"
> > documentation documenting new features, and there are 4 volumes of
> > "obsolete" documentation documenting features that existed before
> > that.  Those documentations have never been merged, so this is a bit
> > inconvenient.
> >
> > > - For pictex documentation what would be the prospective places I
> > > can start a search for...
> >
> > As I said: pictex documentation is proprietary.  The manual must be
> > bought, and I don't even know whether it is still in print.
> >
> > --
> > David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
> > _______________________________________________
> > Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> > unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> To: tugindia@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tugindia] PStricks
> From: Radhakrishnan CV <cvr@river-valley.org>
> Date: 20 Dec 2002 14:36:17 +0530
> Reply-To: tugindia@tug.org
>
> >>>>> "ICM" == ICM  <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:
>
>     ICM> Thanks for the response. Some problem with my e-mail.. I have
>     ICM> not configured my mail.. let me see what is the problem..  -
>     ICM> I would like to try pstricks .. thanks for the suggestion. I
>     ICM> have got some other suggestion for pstricks.
>
> Please dont top post and take care to trim your mails. Before posting
> further, please take care to read the list guidelines at:
>
>  http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
>
> [59 lines snipped]
>
> --
> Radhakrishnan
>
>
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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 14:54:50 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Radhakrishnan CV)
Date: 20 Dec 2002 20:24:50 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] GIF file
In-Reply-To: <00d501c2a831$14039c40$cb0200c3@icmamwg>
References: <00d501c2a831$14039c40$cb0200c3@icmamwg>
Message-ID: <m3k7i491vp.fsf@danube.river-valley.com>

>>>>> "ICM" == ICM  <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:

    ICM> Hello How to put a gif graphics file in latex ?

RTFM is the right answer, many times, this has been discussed in this
list.

TeX from teTeX and TeXLive supports only encapsulated postscript file
format and pdfTeX supports png, jpg, pdf, mps file formats.  It
largely depends on the distribution of TeX you use.  I don't think you
can include gif graphic in the TeX distribution normally used except
VTeX which I guess supports gif file format. Therefore, the easier way
will be to convert gif files into eps format and then include them
with the usual command of

  \includegraphics[options]{filename}

-- 
Radhakrishnan

From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 15:40:52 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:10:52 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] FTP site for style files.
In-Reply-To: <000201c2a834$5f19fe60$0b64a8c0@111>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212202104540.1055-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 5:34pm +0530 Manoranjan B wrote:

>   is there  any FTP  site from  where I  can download  various Style
>   files?

Visit www.ctan.org to find any style/  package and mirror near to your
location.

Please read list guidelines at:

http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia

-- 
H.S.Rai

:
####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]###########################

Sub : Knowing contents of .tgz files                 LOST #015

To know the contents of a .tgz file without decompressing:

$tar -ztvf filename.tgz | less

A .tgz file is essentially a gzipped tarball (.tar.gz) file.

####<bish@nde.vsnl.net.in>####################################
:



From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 20 15:05:31 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Radhakrishnan CV)
Date: 20 Dec 2002 20:35:31 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Re: Tugindia digest, Vol 1 #74 - 13 msgs
In-Reply-To: <000201c2a834$5f19fe60$0b64a8c0@111>
References: <20021220110004.24515.10370.Mailman@tug.org>
 <000201c2a834$5f19fe60$0b64a8c0@111>
Message-ID: <m3el8c91dw.fsf@danube.river-valley.com>

>>>>> "Manoranjan" == Manoranjan B <manoranjan@cbsl-india.com> writes:

    Manoranjan> is there any FTP site from where I can download
    Manoranjan> various Style files? 

ftp://ftp.dante.de or any of the mirrors of CTAN.

    Manoranjan> ----- Original Message ----- From:
    Manoranjan> <tugindia-request@tug.org> To: <tugindia@tug.org>
    Manoranjan> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:30 PM Subject:
    Manoranjan> Tugindia digest, Vol 1 #74 - 13 msgs

[...]

 <hundreds of lines of previous messages snipped>

Manoranjan,

You are not doing a pleasing job which is contrary to what your name
denotes. Why a whole lot of a day's digest running into hundreds of
lines has been appended to your single line message? The appended
messages are totally irrelevant to what you have been asking for.

Do you have any specific enemity towards the well intented subscribers
of this list?  Can you trim your posts and avoid top posting? If it is
not possible, as list admin, I need to do something to save the lives
of our subscribers.  They dont deserve to be bombarded with repetitive
onslaughts like the one that you've done now.

I would earnestly request you go through the list guidelines before
posting further.

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 21 09:46:20 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:16:20 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] GIF file
References: <00d501c2a831$14039c40$cb0200c3@icmamwg> <m3k7i491vp.fsf@danube.river-valley.com>
Message-ID: <005001c2a8d5$d0e45300$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Thanks.

Prabir

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Radhakrishnan CV <cvr@river-valley.org>
To: <tugindia@tug.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Tugindia] GIF file


> >>>>> "ICM" == ICM  <prabirgd@icmam.tn.nic.in> writes:
> 
>     ICM> Hello How to put a gif graphics file in latex ?
> 
> RTFM is the right answer, many times, this has been discussed in this
> list.
> 
> TeX from teTeX and TeXLive supports only encapsulated postscript file
> format and pdfTeX supports png, jpg, pdf, mps file formats.  It
> largely depends on the distribution of TeX you use.  I don't think you
> can include gif graphic in the TeX distribution normally used except
> VTeX which I guess supports gif file format. Therefore, the easier way
> will be to convert gif files into eps format and then include them
> with the usual command of
> 
>   \includegraphics[options]{filename}
> 
> -- 
> Radhakrishnan
> _______________________________________________
> Home:        http://www.tug.org.in/
> unsubscribe: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tugindia
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From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 21 09:53:24 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:23:24 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Pstricks
Message-ID: <006b01c2a8d6$d1741a70$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

- where to get  the  read-me.pst  file?
- any help on how to install pstricks ?

Thanks,

Prabir


From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 19 17:24:38 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Dr. Dinesh Karia)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:54:38 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>

Nikhil = "Nikhil Joshi" <nikhil_joshi@gmx.net>

Nikhil> i realized afterwards that if i convert pdf/ps files to jpg using
Nikhil> ImageMagick's convert utility I need not worry whether the recipient
has a
Nikhil> Acrobat Reader or not.

Is ImageMagick a freeware? If yes, could you please provide the URL to
download it? If not, is anybody in the group aware of a path (though long)
using freeware(s) to convert the PDF/PS/EPS/DVI to JPEG/JPG/GIF/BMP/WMF ?

I need this because, while creating some message for totally nontechnical
persons (mainly family members), this would be of great help. To communicate
to professionals, usually this need not be inevitable.

Thanks in advance,

Dinesh Karia



From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 21 20:28:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 21 Dec 2002 21:28:07 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain>
 <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>
Message-ID: <x5fzsrp160.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

"Dr. Dinesh Karia" <dineshjk@earth.planet.net.in> writes:

> Nikhil = "Nikhil Joshi" <nikhil_joshi@gmx.net>
> 
> Nikhil> i realized afterwards that if i convert pdf/ps files to jpg using
> Nikhil> ImageMagick's convert utility I need not worry whether the recipient
> has a
> Nikhil> Acrobat Reader or not.
> 
> Is ImageMagick a freeware? If yes, could you please provide the URL to
> download it? If not, is anybody in the group aware of a path (though long)
> using freeware(s) to convert the PDF/PS/EPS/DVI to JPEG/JPG/GIF/BMP/WMF ?
> 
> I need this because, while creating some message for totally nontechnical
> persons (mainly family members), this would be of great help. To communicate
> to professionals, usually this need not be inevitable.

The preview package is handy for creating shrink-wrapped graphics from
TeX input.

It is available from CTAN:macros/latex/contrib/supported/preview

If you don't mind getting full pages, you can just use dvips and
GhostScript with appropriate options.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 04:08:24 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Kapil Hari Paranjape)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:38:24 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain> <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>
Message-ID: <20021222040824.GE31311@imsc.res.in>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:54:38PM +0530, Dr. Dinesh Karia wrote:
> Is ImageMagick a freeware? If yes, could you please provide the URL to
> download it? If not, is anybody in the group aware of a path (though long)
> using freeware(s) to convert the PDF/PS/EPS/DVI to JPEG/JPG/GIF/BMP/WMF ?

Yes. ImageMagick *is* "mukt" software.
     http://www.imagemagick.org/
(as might be guessed) is the URL.

On the other hand as David points out you may be better off using
"preview" since the typical invocation of "dvips" produces output
that is more appropriate for print (300/600 dpi) whereas for the
screen you need the output to be at a smaller resolution (72/100 dpi)
*and* anti-aliased. 

Typically the output of imagemagick conversions done in the "obvious"
way produce large files which do not look very good either!

Hope this helps,

Kapil.

-- 
Often statistics are used as a drunken man uses lampposts -- for support
rather than illumination.
-----

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 05:19:46 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:49:46 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <20021222040824.GE31311@imsc.res.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain> <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default> <20021222040824.GE31311@imsc.res.in>
Message-ID: <200212221049.46673.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

What  about using gimp for all this work ? Seems pretty good.
 I also need an opinion on this:  I converted a gif chart (the IPA chart) to 
eps (via gimp) and used it in my tex flle, it gets converted to a 3.5M eps 
file and the laser printer I have is refusing to print it (Memory ?) . I had 
to print the gif seperately and include it in the report (real mess up).
 Also, do eps files get incorporated into your pdf document via pdflatex?
If not, what are the options?

Amitabh

>
> On the other hand as David points out you may be better off using
> "preview" since the typical invocation of "dvips" produces output
> that is more appropriate for print (300/600 dpi) whereas for the
> screen you need the output to be at a smaller resolution (72/100 dpi)
> *and* anti-aliased.
>
> Typically the output of imagemagick conversions done in the "obvious"
> way produce large files which do not look very good either!
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Kapil.


From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 06:02:36 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Kapil Hari Paranjape)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:32:36 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <200212221049.46673.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain> <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default> <20021222040824.GE31311@imsc.res.in> <200212221049.46673.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <20021222060236.GF31311@imsc.res.in>

On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:49:46AM +0530, Amitabh Trehan wrote:
> What  about using gimp for all this work ? Seems pretty good.

IMHO gimp is good for creating graphics, but I am not so sure about
its engine for converting graphics into different formats.

>  I also need an opinion on this:  I converted a gif chart (the IPA chart) to 
> eps (via gimp) and used it in my tex flle, it gets converted to a 3.5M eps 
> file and the laser printer I have is refusing to print it (Memory ?)

This is the kind of problem that I had in mind above. Many tools (of
which both gimp and imagemagick are examples) will construct large ps
files when you do graphics conversions in the "obvious" way. It is
important to figure out the correct parameters (RTFM) so that the PS
file you create is appropriate for printing or screen viewing or
faxing as per your need. The leanest files are generally produced
using netpbm but you do need to RTFM to use those tools.

>  Also, do eps files get incorporated into your pdf document via pdflatex?
> If not, what are the options?

This has been discussed here and elsewhere. Your options are:
(1) use epstopdf or other tool to convert to pdf.
(2) Do not convert to eps if your file is not an eps file to begin
    with.

For example, in your case you can actually embed gif files in PDF
directly. 

Kapil.

-- 

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 09:44:21 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Somendra M Bhattacharjee)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:14:21 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212221454010.15128-100000@polymer.ac.iopb.res.in>

If ImageMagick is available the simplest command is

   convert myfile.ps  myfile.png

The extension of the last filename  determines the final format.
  (it could be myfile.gif  or myfile.jpg .....)   
  (more info and details on options are in man pages)
   In this form it  can be used in a script also.
 
Here is a comparison of sizes:

 4.0K alpha.tex <--- original tex file
 56K alpha.ps   <---  ps file by dvips
 80K alpha.gif  <-- (convert alpha.ps alpha.gif)
 8.0K alpha.png <-- (convert alpha.ps alpha.png) :::smallest size
 20K alpha.jpg  <-- (convert alpha.ps alpha.jpg)

PNG seems to be the best choice, especially if the image  is to be sent by 
email or kept on a webpage (may not be for printing).

smb



From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 09:59:36 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:29:36 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <20021222060236.GF31311@imsc.res.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain> <200212221049.46673.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net> <20021222060236.GF31311@imsc.res.in>
Message-ID: <200212221529.36778.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

> faxing as per your need. The leanest files are generally produced
> using netpbm but you do need to RTFM to use those tools.
>
 An innovative use of netpbm and png (refer: smb's mail on list) I know is the 
LaTeX2html program, which uses this to convert e.g. devnag text to png 
images. We have used it successfully since last year at our website. The 
latest is at www.hindivishwa.org .

> This has been discussed here and elsewhere. Your options are:
> (1) use epstopdf or other tool to convert to pdf.
 What is the way to give it as a command in a TeX file if I am using pdflatex?

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 11:27:54 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 22 Dec 2002 12:27:54 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] Creating JPG/JPEG
In-Reply-To: <20021222040824.GE31311@imsc.res.in>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212180645440.841-100000@localhost.localdomain>
 <000001c2a860$e8a74bc0$c452c7cb@default>
 <20021222040824.GE31311@imsc.res.in>
Message-ID: <x5lm2il2dh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

Kapil Hari Paranjape <kapil@imsc.res.in> writes:

> On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:54:38PM +0530, Dr. Dinesh Karia wrote:
> > Is ImageMagick a freeware? If yes, could you please provide the URL to
> > download it? If not, is anybody in the group aware of a path (though long)
> > using freeware(s) to convert the PDF/PS/EPS/DVI to JPEG/JPG/GIF/BMP/WMF ?
> 
> Yes. ImageMagick *is* "mukt" software.
>      http://www.imagemagick.org/
> (as might be guessed) is the URL.
> 
> On the other hand as David points out you may be better off using
> "preview" since the typical invocation of "dvips" produces output
> that is more appropriate for print (300/600 dpi) whereas for the
> screen you need the output to be at a smaller resolution (72/100 dpi)
> *and* anti-aliased.

Well, preview does nothing to change that, its manual just documents
with what options best to call dvips and GhostScript (dvips -Ppdf and
a lot of options to GhostScript).  The advantages with preview are
(apart from the documentation) that it can output closely cropped
images, and that you can produce, say, 100 closely cropped images
from a single run of LaTeX, dvips and GhostScript, with each image
having its own size.  It is also more correct than dvips -E in
figuring out bounding boxes, which is important if you use scaled or
rotated material, PStricks macros, psfrag and similar stuff.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 18:19:16 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (k.p)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:19:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Devanagari - How to Begin ?
Message-ID: <20021222181916.36175.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all,

I am writing because I would like use the Devanagari
package in MikTex and after installing all the
relevant files I have not been able to use Devanagari
successfully. Can any one please help. Also I am
getting incorrect translation from English to Hindi
with some words like ...for example...Krishna.

Any help is appreciated.

Kindly,

Kev

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From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 19:12:59 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:42:59 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Devanagari - How to Begin ?
In-Reply-To: <20021222181916.36175.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021222181916.36175.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200212230043.00004.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

Hi k.p. , 
 How could you get an (incorrect) translation if devnag is not installed ?
make sure you  are using the preprocessor file devnag.exe and read the devnag 
manual.

> I am writing because I would like use the Devanagari
> package in MikTex and after installing all the
> relevant files I have not been able to use Devanagari
> successfully. Can any one please help. Also I am
> getting incorrect translation from English to Hindi
> with some words like ...for example...Krishna.


From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 20:15:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Ganesh Ramesh)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:15:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Installing itrans and Devanagari fonts in Linux
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0212221512250.23570-100000@broomstick>

Hello,

  I am looking for some good references that would explain in detail the
process of installing the devanagari fonts and using them with
latex/pdflatex under Linux. Can anyone give me pointers/references to
websites or books for the same? I have latex/pdflatex installed with SuSE
8.0 professional version of linux.

Thanks
Ganesh


From tugindia@tug.org  Sun Dec 22 23:56:05 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Nikhil Joshi)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 05:26:05 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Installing itrans and Devanagari fonts in Linux
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0212221512250.23570-100000@broomstick>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212230514410.711-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Ganesh Ramesh wrote:

>   I am looking for some good references that would explain in detail the
> process of installing the devanagari fonts and using them with
> latex/pdflatex under Linux. Can anyone give me pointers/references to
> websites or books for the same? I have latex/pdflatex installed with SuSE
> 8.0 professional version of linux.

Hi!
I'm a newbie at latex so beware ;)

First I tried the CTAN way (their install instrucs) of installing the dev
package i.e. creating local subdirectories and putting ur new stuff there
nd making sure texhash doesnt include them in its ls-R (whatever it is)
database

Whew 
It didnt work :(

So I did a "simple" (nd may be dumb) workaround.
Put *all* the stuff (fonts,sty files et al) in one dir in ur home 
and thats it !!!

create a new tex file in that dir nd just \usepackage{dev}
and enjoy :)

HTH
Nikhil

P.S.
I'm using RHL 7.2




From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 04:41:16 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (S. venkataraman)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:11:16 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Installing itrans and Devanagari fonts in Linux
Message-ID: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A114490C@ignou.ignou.ac.in>


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ganesh Ramesh [SMTP:ganesh@cs.albany.edu]
> Sent:	Monday, December 23, 2002 1:45 AM
> To:	tugindia@tug.org
> Subject:	[Tugindia] Installing itrans and Devanagari fonts in
> Linux
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   I am looking for some good references that would explain in detail
> the
> process of installing the devanagari fonts and using them with
> latex/pdflatex under Linux. Can anyone give me pointers/references to
> websites or books for the same? I have latex/pdflatex installed with
> SuSE
> 8.0 professional version of linux.
> 
> Thanks
> Ganesh
> 
	You have to do the following:
	1) Copy the the tfm, mf and style files to appropriate
directories.  You can 
	    find out what the appropriate directories are in the file
tds.dvi which explains the 
	    tex directory structure. If you want to use a localtexmf
tree, i.e install these files 
	    in your own user space,  look at question 15(I think ??) of
tetex faq.  It 
	     explains how to create local texmf trees.  Run texhash to
refresh the filename database.
>   Since I use  Redhat linux I am not sure if I can give you the
> details of the location of the
	 FAQ and tds.dvi.  
	2) You may have to compile the source file of the preprocessor,
devnag.c using gcc 
	if no binary is included in the pacakge. After compiling, copy
the executable of the
	 preprocessor to some directory in your path or add the
directory that contains the 
	executable  to your path. This depends on the shell you use.
	The first part is of course the standard procedure for
installing any tex/latex package.
	[S. venkataraman]  

From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 05:02:29 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Kevin)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 21:02:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tugindia] Devanagari - How to Begin ?
In-Reply-To: <200212230043.00004.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <20021223050229.43474.qmail@web41004.mail.yahoo.com>


Hello and thanks for the reply.
The folowing files have been correctly installed into
the relevant folders.
       
  defs.mf, dvng10.mf,dnchars.mf, dvng8.mf, dvng9.mf,
dvng.tfm, dvng8.tfm, dvng9.tfm, dev2e.sty, OT1dn.fd,
dnmacs.tex, devnagari.tpm, copying, manual.tex,
misspaal.tex, read.me, devnag.c, misspaal.dn,
devnag.exe.

These have been correctly installed into the relevant
files.  
The files have been obtained from the archive and the
files are the updated ones by Anshuman Pandey.

I still have not been able to try the examples
following the guidelines of the document at:
http//www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/l12h/indic/Devanagari/Amitab...

All help immensely appreciated.

Kindly,

Kevin.



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--- Amitabh Trehan <amitabhtrehan@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi k.p. , 
>  How could you get an (incorrect) translation if
> devnag is not installed ?
> make sure you  are using the preprocessor file
> devnag.exe and read the devnag 
> manual.


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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 06:53:54 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (ICM)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:23:54 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] EPS figures
Message-ID: <005f01c2aa50$14dd53b0$cb0200c3@icmamwg>

Hello
Unable to get the test.eps figure on page while bin1990-14.eps is coming
all right . Could you please guide me what is the problem?
A copy is placed below for perusal.

If you choose to reply please mark a copy to Prabirgd11@rediffmail.com, as
this mail id is giving problems.

Kind regards,

Prabir
____________________________________________________________________________
___________
\documentclass [11 pt,a4 paper]{article} %%date 23 December,2002%%
\usepackage{graphicx}
%\usepackage[draft]{graphicx}
\begin{document}
\begin {figure}
 \centering
              \includegraphics [height=10cm, width=12cm]{test.eps} %%
working partially%%
               %\fbox{\includegraphics
[width=10cm,height=9cm]{BIN1990-14.eps}}%%% 3 THIS IS WORKING FINE,
111202%%%
               \caption  {test caption....without border}
             \label{Fig}
  \end{figure}
  \end{document}
____________________________________________________________________________
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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 07:01:37 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dileep=20Padinjarae=20Vengasseri?=)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:01:37 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] pdfscreen and texpower
In-Reply-To: <20021223050229.43474.qmail@web41004.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021223070137.53479.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I have to make some slides for my presentation. I am
thinking of using pdfscreen with texpower. I have
never used pdfscreen and texpower before.

To begin with, I tried to compile the pdfscrdemo.tex
which is coming with texpower.
When I compile the pdfscrdemo.tex I am getting a pdf
file which is different from the pdfscrdemo.pdf given
in the 'doc' of texpower. (Once Sridhar had pointed
the same thing in the list). CVR suggested to not to
use the option 'slifonts' for texpower. But even after
doing this modification, I am not getting the same
output. Following are the problems.

1. The output is not landscape.
2. The colours are different.
3. The panel is not displayed properly from second
page onwards. (It just blinks and goes).


For the present purpose, I do not want to use panel. I
made some slides using pdfscreen. But I could not
figure out how to use the texpower options like \pause
and \stepwise.

My sample code is something like this.


\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage[display]{texpower}
\usepackage[screen,nopanel]{pdfscreen}
\usepackage{times}
\margins{0.5in}{0.5in}{0.5in}{0.5in}
\screensize{6.25in}{8in}
\bottombuttons
\notesname{Notes:}
\begin{document}
\begin{slide}
\title{Lipofection--Cationic Mediated Gene Delivery}
\author{Dileep P.V.}
\maketitle
\end{slide}
\begin{slide}
{\Large Test:} 
\pause
This is just for testing
\end{slide}
\end{document}

\pause command and all is not functional in the above
case. I felt that I should not be using \begin{slide}
and \end {slide}, since \pause has to make a new slide
for its function. If this is the case, can anyone
suggest me how should I define the new slides?

After reading the pdfscrdemo.tex I could not figure
out how it is starting a new slide. Can anybody who
has used this combination for slides send me a
sample.tex.

Thanking you,

With best regards,

Dileep


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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 15:58:01 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:28:01 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Installing itrans and Devanagari fonts in Linux
In-Reply-To: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A114490C@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
References: <C4150FE546A5D511BA8F00104B1F81A114490C@ignou.ignou.ac.in>
Message-ID: <200212232128.01573.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

On Monday 23 Dec 2002 10:11 am, S. venkataraman wrote:
> process of installing the devanagari fonts and using them with
> > latex/pdflatex under Linux. Can anyone give me pointers/references to

 The way Venkat has explained is the proper way to go. Just one more thing, 
for getting devnag to work with pdf , download the devanagari/contrib 
directory also (you must have downloaded distrib which houses the devnag 
package) - follow the instructions i.e. copy the pfb font files and make 
entries to the file called psfonts.map , and the fonts will be available for 
pdf also.

Amitabh



From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 16:12:06 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Amitabh Trehan)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:42:06 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] Devanagari - How to Begin ?
In-Reply-To: <20021223050229.43474.qmail@web41004.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021223050229.43474.qmail@web41004.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200212232142.06094.amitabhtrehan@softhome.net>

>
>   defs.mf, dvng10.mf,dnchars.mf, dvng8.mf, dvng9.mf,
> dvng.tfm, dvng8.tfm, dvng9.tfm, dev2e.sty, OT1dn.fd,
> dnmacs.tex, devnagari.tpm, copying, manual.tex,
> misspaal.tex, read.me, devnag.c, misspaal.dn,
> devnag.exe.

This is not the latest package ( The TeXLive cd has outdated version ). The 
newer version has files dev.sty and udn.fd instead of dev2e and OT1dn.fd . 
download from a CTAN server- ftp.dante.de  (languages/devanagari ..) . 
Install in the tree in the proper places. 
 Are you also trying to use LateX2html ? The URL you mentioned is of Ross 
Moore's LaTeX2html site. See www.hindivishwa.org for an example of use of 
LaTeX2html with devnag . You can easily use that, but you have to be careful 
to read some instructions (like copying the perl files to proper locations).

Amitabh

From tugindia@tug.org  Tue Dec 24 10:05:13 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Mouttou VelouS)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:05:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tugindia] make slanted character
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212192023120.2991-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021224100513.56579.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com>

hi all,

i'm new user, this may be silly for you people.
i'm trying to slant the character like italic for
smallcaps characters which is not available in our
font list. 
Thanks in advance for all the response.
regards
mv

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From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 23 04:56:51 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Raj Singh)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:26:51 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] [Again] Installing Devanagari (on Unices)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212231017040.2857-100000@idg.ceeri.ernet.in>

Hello,

Re-sending my earlier mail on using/installing 'devanagari' package with
LaTeX. For first time users, it might be a good idea to first search the
recent archives of this mailing list before posing questions to the list.

-- Raj

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:38:39 +0530 (IST)
To: TUG-India <tugindia@tug.org>

> Would like to do some texing of devanagari text. But don't know anything
> about getting/installing fonts or working with it.

Doing it on Unix/Linux or Windows environment ?

For Linux/Unix, you can do the stuff by hand. Get the 'devanagari' package
from any CTAN site. Uncompress/untar it and put the various files in the
'appropriate' places by creating new directories in your $TEXMF path.
$TEXMF is the home of your TeX/LaTeX package -- this could be
/usr/local/share/texmf, /usr/share/texmf or some other directory path on
these lines.

Basically do the following :

1. Put the defs.mf, dnchars.mf and dvng*.mf files in
$TEXMF/fonts/source/public/devanagari.

2. Put the dvng*.tfm files in $TEXMF/fonts/tfm/public/devanagari.

3. Put dev.sty, dnmacs.tex, udn.fd, manual.tex, misspaal.tex, examples.tex
in $TEXMF/tex/latex/devanagari.

4. Give the 'texhash' command.

5. Compile devnag.c (gcc or cc) and put the resultant 'devnag' binary in
/usr/local/bin.

[ Note that you can name the binary file to be 'dev2tex', 'hindi2tex',
'hindi', 'devanagari', or any other name that you fancy instead of
'devnag'. ]

6. Give the 'rehash' command.

7. I hope that you have 'xdvi' and 'gv' compiled to use the 'on need'
generated 'pk' fonts which usually are put in /var/lib/texmf/pk/... path.

8. Make your <file>.dn. 'devnag' it. 'latex' the resultant <file>.tex.  
View and print it.

-- Raj

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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 26 10:08:39 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dileep=20Padinjarae=20Vengasseri?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:08:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] footnote with no indent
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212231017040.2857-100000@idg.ceeri.ernet.in>
Message-ID: <20021226100839.24731.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I would like to get one footnote in my artilcle
without any indent. Can anyone suggest how can this be
done?

With best regards,

Dileep

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From tugindia@tug.org  Thu Dec 26 13:53:16 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:23:16 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] EPS figures
In-Reply-To: <005f01c2aa50$14dd53b0$cb0200c3@icmamwg>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212261919010.1491-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Monday at 12:23pm +0530 ICM wrote:

>   Unable to get the test.eps  figure on page while bin1990-14.eps is
>   coming all right . Could you please guide me what is the problem?

Your code appears to  be correct. Without test.eps and bin1990-14.eps,
list members can not reproduce output file.

-- 
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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 27 04:33:17 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (utpal deka)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:33:17 +0500 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] suggestions
Message-ID: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>

Hi!
I am Utpal, a graduate student. I am working in Linux and use latex oftenly. Currently, I am writing my thesis and faced some problem while using latex.
 
I am using a \documentclass[book] for my purpose to get the chapters. Now, while defining \chapter, I get the default output. I want to change the font size & style of the chapter that appears at the top of the page with the chapter number at the right. I tried using \chapter{CHAPTER} which gives me caps and also used \chapter{\textsc{Chapter}}, but of no use. I am unable to use other styles like Italic for the same. Please, suggest me how to do it and also to get the whole chapter and chaptername to the right of the page?
 
Second, I was trying to change the appendix counter like Appendix-A to say Appendix-C. In case of changing chapter counters it can be done by using the calc package and adding to counter. How should I change in case of \Alph like appendix?
 
Third, I was trying to use graphs drawn in xfig in latex. I followed the same instructions to include it as given in the help of xfig. While doing latex of the file it showed errors saying that the latex version cannot go with macros #. The xfig file, which contains macros like # is by default. How should I include xfigs containing texts in latex file? Moreover, how should I include other graphics file like *.tiff, *jpg, *.bmp etc in latex?
 
Fourth, If i want to include different chapters under the book class definition of document to edit each chapter seperately, will I have to the preamble in case of the chapters which are written seperately. e.g.
\documentclass[book]
.........
\begin{document}
.......
\include{chapter1} Now, should this chapters contain a preamble or it should be simple tex files without preamble.
\include{chapter2}
 
............
\end{document}
 
Your suggestions will help me a lot to ovecome this difficulty I am currently facing. I hope you will help me to sort out my problems.
 
With warm regards,
 
Utpal
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From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 27 05:35:58 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Kapil Hari Paranjape)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:05:58 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] suggestions
In-Reply-To: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>
References: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>
Message-ID: <20021227053558.GA3043@imsc.res.in>

Dear Utpal,

On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 09:33:17AM +0500, utpal deka wrote:

> I am Utpal, a graduate student. I am working in Linux and use latex
> oftenly. Currently, I am writing my thesis and faced some problem
> while using latex.

RTFM is often the best solution with questions on tugindia only after
that!

> I am using a \documentclass[book] for my purpose to get the

I think it should be \documentclass{book}

> chapters. Now, while defining \chapter, I get the default output. I
> want to change the font size & style of the chapter that appears at
> the top of the page with the chapter number at the right. I tried
> using \chapter{CHAPTER} which gives me caps and also used
> \chapter{\textsc{Chapter}}, but of no use. I am unable to use other
> styles like Italic for the same. Please, suggest me how to do it and
> also to get the whole chapter and chaptername to the right of the
> page?

Are you sure you want to do this? A lot of thought has gone into the
design of the style file for books. Italic chapter headings sounds
just terrible! Maybe you want to look at other styles such as amsbook
or suthesis or other thesis style files such as diploma. In my own
humble opinion styles of headings and such are not to be tampered with
lightly---especially for a document as important as a thesis!

Anyway, for what you want you need to add your own amendment to the
\chapter command with \renewcommand\chapter....
You can look at the existing version in book.cls then make a new style
file (mythesis.sty) where you can put all the renewcommands that you
want. 

> Second, I was trying to change the appendix counter like Appendix-A
> to say Appendix-C. In case of changing chapter counters it can be
> done by using the calc package and adding to counter. How should I
> change in case of \Alph like appendix?

This is automatic. When a counter contains "3" then \Alph produces C.

> macros like # is by default. How should I include xfigs containing
> texts in latex file? Moreover, how should I include other graphics
> file like *.tiff, *jpg, *.bmp etc in latex?

Please read the archives of this mailing list. This topic has been
covered many times. You need to convert other graphics formats to eps
in order to include them in your LaTeX file with graphics.sty

> Fourth, If i want to include different chapters under the book class
> definition of document to edit each chapter seperately, will I have
> to the preamble in case of the chapters which are written
> seperately. e.g.  \documentclass[book] .........  \begin{document}
> .......  \include{chapter1} Now, should this chapters contain a
> preamble or it should be simple tex files without preamble.
> \include{chapter2}

The preamble is only in the main document and not in the include
files. Have a look at the section (LaTeX book) on \includeonly to
speed up processing when your are looking at thesis drafts.

> Your suggestions will help me a lot to ovecome this difficulty I am
> currently facing. I hope you will help me to sort out my problems.

>From your mail it is more and more clear to me that you should not be
tampering with style files. It is best if you look for all the
different existing style files for books/monographs/thesis and choose
one that you like best.

Kapil.

--

From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 27 06:47:04 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (H S Rai)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:17:04 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] suggestions ( for thesis )
In-Reply-To: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212271158370.1510-100000@rai.iitr.ernet.in>

Today at 9:33am +0500 utpal deka wrote:

>   I am using a \documentclass[book] ...

There  are a  lot many  styles, specifically  written for  thesis. For
detail visit:

http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/tugindia/2002-May/000497.html

Be aware that playing with each style need time.

>   Third,  I was  trying  to use  graphs drawn  in  xfig in  latex. I
>   followed the same instructions to include  it as given in the help
>   of xfig. While  doing latex  of the file  it showed  errors saying
>   that the latex version cannot go with macros #.

Export your drawing to eps file and include it.

IMHO, as  TeX user, we  should try to  use appropriate style  file and
should not try to change each  and every appearance. As we as a normal
user are  not expert in  layout and composing  principles. Styles file
are written  with great care and  we should take appearance  as it is,
because it is said for TeX and LaTex that writer should concentrate on
subject matter rather  its look. LaTeX will take care  of look. If one
consider expert in  layout design and want to have  title, section and
other  layout of  his  choice,  then either  he  should  use any  word
processor in  un-structural manner  or write his  own style  for LaTeX
(but I  believe there is  no need  to do this  as there are  already a
number of style files to satisfy one's need)

-- 
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    better response. Also see archieve of list.


From tugindia@tug.org  Fri Dec 27 07:59:36 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dileep=20Padinjarae=20Vengasseri?=)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:59:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] suggestions
In-Reply-To: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>
Message-ID: <20021227075936.36464.qmail@web21412.mail.yahoo.com>

 
Hello,

> I am using a \documentclass[book] for my purpose to
get the chapters. Now, while defining \chapter, I get
the default output. 
> to get the whole chapter and chaptername to the
> right of the page?

As Rai and others suggested it is always better to
stick to the default settings since they are the best.
But you can try the possiblities as it is a good
learning experience. 

To get the required effect you can just try  
redefining the \@makechapterhead#1{ of book.cls.
The default setting is raggedright. I found that if
you change that to raggedleft you will get what you
are asking for. Something like this.

\documentclass{book}
\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}
\begin{document}

% The redefinition of \@makechapterhead

\makeatletter
\def\@makechapterhead#1{%
  \vspace*{50\p@}%
  {\parindent \z@ \raggedleft \normalfont
    \ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\m@ne
      \if@mainmatter
        \huge\bfseries \@chapapp\space \thechapter
        \par\nobreak
        \vskip 20\p@
      \fi
    \fi
    \interlinepenalty\@M
    \Huge \bfseries #1\par\nobreak
    \vskip 40\p@
  }}
\makeatother


\chapter{My first chapter}}
\section{Introduction}
Bla..Bla..Bla...

Have a nice time.

With best regards,

Dileep




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From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 28 08:48:50 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (harishankar ramachandran)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:18:50 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] More Type 3 font problems
Message-ID: <200212280850.gBS8oYI24782@nimbus.tenet.res.in>

David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de> had solved my problems with
Type 3 fonts some time earlier. The solution was:

dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o psfile dvifile
ps2pdf psfile pdfile

Unfortunately the problem has now cropped up with a new dimension that
has stumped me. A particular scientific article has the following
mathematical symbols $\Lambda$, $\Psi$ and $\Sigma$ in it. When run
through latex, then dvips (with -Ppdf -G0 etc) and ps2pdf, the result
is a set of complaints about missing glyphs:

dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
] [2<td.eps>
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
] [3
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Psi'
] [4
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
] [5
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Lambda'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
dvips: Warning: missing glyph `Sigma'
]

The predictable result was that the pdf file had solid blobs of ink
whereever those three symbols had occurred in the dvi file.

What to do now? I notice that when Acrobat distiller creates pdf
files, it often uses specialised symbol files that are not Type
1. Is there no standard set of fonts that any installation can be
expected to have, which will contain all the standard scientific
symbols?

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From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 28 12:44:48 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dileep=20Padinjarae=20Vengasseri?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:44:48 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tugindia] More Type 3 font problems
In-Reply-To: <200212280850.gBS8oYI24782@nimbus.tenet.res.in>
Message-ID: <20021228124448.65703.qmail@web21406.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

> dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o psfile dvifile ps2pdf psfile
pdfile following mathematical symbols $\Lambda$,
$\Psi$ and $\Sigma$ in it. When run through latex,
then dvips (with -Ppdf -G0 etc) and ps2pdf, the result
is a set of complaints about missing glyphs: dvips:
Warning: missing glyph `Psi'

With dvips -Ppdf foo.dvi -o foo.ps and ps2pdf foo.ps I
am not having any problems in getting the above
mentioned maths symbols in a pdf file. If you are
using this method to generate pdf files (instead of
pdflatex), it will be a very good idea to update your
tetex and ghostcript. I had serious problems initially
on such conversions. But once I updated the tetex (I
am using redhat 7.1; and I updated it using redhat's
up2date utility), I never faced any such silly
problems during this conversion.

With best regards,

Dileep



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From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 28 14:04:57 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (David Kastrup)
Date: 28 Dec 2002 15:04:57 +0100
Subject: [Tugindia] suggestions
In-Reply-To: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>
References: <1040961797.3e0bd10555a26@webmail1.maa.sify.net>
Message-ID: <x5n0mq8cja.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

utpal deka <utpaldeka@sify.com> writes:

> I am using a \documentclass[book] for my purpose to get the
> chapters. Now, while defining \chapter, I get the default output. I
> want to change the font size & style of the chapter that appears at
> the top of the page with the chapter number at the right. I tried
> using \chapter{CHAPTER} which gives me caps and also used
> \chapter{\textsc{Chapter}}, but of no use. I am unable to use other
> styles like Italic for the same. Please, suggest me how to do it and
> also to get the whole chapter and chaptername to the right of the
> page?

The style of things like that can be changed with titlesec.sty.
However, document classes have been designed for a consistent
appearance.  Tampering with single settings is not likely to get good
results: in most cases it would be easier just using a different
document class.  The KOMA-script classes are one such set (scrreprt,
for example).  Another is the memoir class.

> Second, I was trying to change the appendix counter like Appendix-A
> to say Appendix-C. In case of changing chapter counters it can be
> done by using the calc package and adding to counter. How should I
> change in case of \Alph like appendix?

By adding to the chapter counter.  Just the same.

> Third, I was trying to use graphs drawn in xfig in latex. I followed
> the same instructions to include it as given in the help of
> xfig. While doing latex of the file it showed errors saying that the
> latex version cannot go with macros #. The xfig file, which contains
> macros like # is by default. How should I include xfigs containing
> texts in latex file?

By exporting to EPS.

> Moreover, how should I include other graphics file like *.tiff,
> *jpg, *.bmp etc in latex?

Read grfguide.ps.

> Fourth, If i want to include different chapters under the book class
> definition of document to edit each chapter seperately, will I have
> to the preamble in case of the chapters which are written
> seperately. e.g.  \documentclass[book] .........  \begin{document}
> .......  \include{chapter1} Now, should this chapters contain a
> preamble or it should be simple tex files without preamble.

Read any introductory LaTeX text of your choice.  The list is not a
substitute for reading.

The UKTug FAQ should cover many questions, too.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

From tugindia@tug.org  Sat Dec 28 21:39:07 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Radhakrishnan CV)
Date: 29 Dec 2002 03:09:07 +0530
Subject: [Tugindia] TeX development fund - Feb 1 application deadline
Message-ID: <m3r8c17ric.fsf@danube.river-valley.com>

This might be useful.

Radhakrishnan

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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:34:34 -0500
From: devfund@tug.org (TeX Development Fund)
To: some-texnical-folks@tug.org
CC: karl@tug.org, kaja@tug.org
Subject: TeX development fund - Feb 1 application deadline

Hi folks - 

Since you are all active TeX developers, we just wanted to mention
specifically to you the existence of the TeX Development Fund, which
TUG voted to create last year.

The idea is to financially support TeX-related projects to the best of
our ability (pretty limited for now, but we have to start somewhere).
Any project, new or existing, is eligible.

Please see http://tug.org/tc/devfund/ for more information and an
online application page.

Please repost/forward this notice to anywhere you think appropriate.
(We already posted it to texhax and comp.text.tex, as you may have
seen.)

Happy TeXing,
Karl & Kaja



From tugindia@tug.org  Mon Dec 30 04:59:10 2002
From: tugindia@tug.org (Baburaj A. Puthenveettil)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:29:10 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Tugindia] bib in reftex
In-Reply-To: <m3r8c17ric.fsf@danube.river-valley.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212301014330.2885-100000@mecheng.iisc.ernet.in>

Dear all,
	
	Can anybody here help me on how to set reftex (with Xemaxs+
AuCtex) so that when I use the cite option from a tex file it takes
citations from a .bib file I specify?

I tried putting the relevant path name in Reftex bibpath environment
variable, in reftex customisatin menu. Doesnt seem to be working. Also
tried changing the reftex default bibliography to my .bib file. When I use
C-c [ what I get is Regex.... instead of going to the entries in .bib file

regards
Baburaj

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