<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">[Accidentally replied only to Bruno]</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello,<div class="">
<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:19, Bruno Voisin <<a href="mailto:bvoisin@icloud.com" class="">bvoisin@icloud.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AgmenaPro-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">More worrying for the future is the planned removal of scripting languages. Python was removed in macOS 12.3, which forced TeX Live Utility (the Mac GUI to tlmgr, and more), largely written in Python, to embed a Python framework.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AgmenaPro-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>It seems like Python was moved to a package installed with the rest by the command line tool installer. On 12.3.1 I have python3 under</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AgmenaPro-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Next in line are Perl and Tcl. Right now you get:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AgmenaPro-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">Can one conjecture perl, ruby will head the same way? Incidentally, does MacOS still go through a standard UNIX certification?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Finally, coming back to the original question, there are package managers on macOS. The two most popular ones are MacPorts <<a href="https://www.macports.org/" class="">https://www.macports.org</a>>, written in Tcl and installing to /opt/local, and Homebrew <<a href="https://brew.sh" class="">https://brew.sh</a>>, written in Ruby and installing to /usr/local on Intel Macs and /opt/homebrew on ARM Macs. There used to be Fink <<a href="https://www.finkproject.org" class="">https://www.finkproject.org</a>>, which installed to /sw, but not much seems to be happening there these days.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>There is also NIX <<a href="https://nixos.org/" class="">https://nixos.org</a>>. I use home-brew, but then again, I don’t use MacTeX and do a unix installation. However, is it conceivable that TeX users will want to install package managers previous to actually install a TeX </div><div class="">framework?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">—Ettore</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font face="Osaka" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Ettore Aldrovandi</span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font face="Osaka" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Department of Mathematics, Florida State University</span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font face="Osaka" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">1017 Academic Way</span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font face="Osaka" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Tallahassee, FL 32306-4510, USA</span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font face="Osaka" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><a href="https://www.math.fsu.edu/~ealdrov" class="">https://www.math.fsu.edu/~ealdrov</a></span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font face="Osaka" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><a href="mailto:aldrovandi@math.fsu.edu" class="">aldrovandi@math.fsu.edu</a></span></font></div></div></div></body></html>