kb> -AX_CXX_COMPILE_STDCXX([11], [noext]) +AX_CXX_COMPILE_STDCXX([11]) Ken, I sent the idea to Martin. Will see what he says. dk> Maybe this information could be used to fix then TeXLive source Dick, I sent this info to Martin also. Better to make changes upstream than in TL, if at all possible, after all. We'll see ... thanks, karl.