[texworks] [tex-live] texworks in TL 2010

[Stefan Löffler]

Hi,

Am 2010-11-12 20:48, schrieb Andreas Hirsch:
> quoting Khaled Hosny, [12.11.2010 17:56 +0100]:
>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:49:39PM +0100, Lars Madsen wrote:
>>> Axel E. Retif wrote:
>>>> On  12 Nov, 2010, at 04:43, Lars Madsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering, is it possible to repackage the stable
>>>>> TeXWorks that comes with TL for windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it a bit embarassing that whenever we help students to
>>>>> install TL, and tell them about the nice jumping feature in
>>>>> TeXWorks, then the first thing we have to do with texworks is
>>>>> to reconfigure it to use pdflatex as the default engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had the samme problem in TL09 so it is a bit sad that this
>>>>> small issue has not been fixed yet.
>>>> Fixed?!!! I think people who prefer to use plain pdfTeX don't
>>>> think there is anything to fix!
>>>>
>>>> And repackaging instead of going to Preferences -> Typesetting ->
>>>> Default and selecting your preferred engine-format?
>>>>
>>>> And if I think that everybody should be using XeLaTeX, can I ask
>>>> for a repackaging with XeLaTeX as the default engine-format?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Axel
>>>>
>>>>
>>> please keep your sarcasm to your self. We are trying to get more 
>>> users to start using LaTeX (and friends) and exactly how many
>>> pdftex (engine) users are there compared to pdflatex users?
>>>
>>> Tools that do not work out of the box for the average new user
>>> gives the user a bad experience
>> Seriously, someone who can not change (or learn how to change) a
>> single configuration option should not be allowed to touch a computer
>> in the first place. You don't need to spoon feed your users, they are
>> either welling to learn or should be looking somewhere else.
> Ok - as Lars said, we are trying to convince Word and OO User to use
> LaTeX. Its a _very_ hard job! Should I stop teaching pupils to use
> LaTeX? Eyery bit that works not as exspected causes the next few pupils
> of _very few_ pupils indeed to stop trying.
>
> For newbies pdflatex is the start! An whose, who are expirienced could
> easy configure.

This has indeed been changed in r580. This means that pdflatex is the
default in current 0.3 development series (it has not been back-ported
to the 0.2 stable series, though). There are plans to release a new
stable version 0.4 somewhat soon-ish, but unfortunately this didn't come
out in time for TL'10.

So, I won't comment on whether or not TL should change anything to their
Tw 0.2 version, but rest assured that this has been fixed in development
and will make it into future (stable) releases. One note, though: as Tw
respects user preferences, an update from 0.2 to 0.4 (or 0.3) won't
change anything automatically (the old settings are retained). Only
fresh new installations have pdflatex as their default engine.

HTH
Stefan