<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">(To Karl: I'm cc'ing you because of the second part of the message, don't bother about the first.)</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 12 Oct 2018, at 23:32, Justin C. Walker <<a href="mailto:justin@me.com" class="">justin@me.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">He said the variable is in points.<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>(About the units for TeXShop editor's new hanging indentation variable)<br class=""><br class="">OK, I'm a bit confused here. I use Menlo Regular 12 in TeXShop's editor, and the value of the variable "Remaining Lines Paragraph Indent" that corresponds to about 2 characters for that font and size is 15 (see attached screenshot).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I thought the em-size would be 12 pt for a 12 pt monospaced font, so a two-character indent would be 24 pt. The above seems to suggest the em-size is about 7.5 pt instead?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I looked at Menlo.ttc in FontForge, it says the em-size (in the Font Info panel) is 2048 but that only means there are 2048 TrueType internal units to the em. From FontForge's help:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"In most PostScript fonts there are 1000 units to the em, TrueType fonts often have either 1024 or 2048 units to the em (TrueType recommends that you use a power of two)"</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So that info is of no use whatsoever.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I tried to explain the above in terms of the variable being in pixels not points, and the fact that my MacBook's 12" Retina display has 226 pixels per inch based on</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">so there are about 3 pixels to 1 point. But that would make the variable value 3 times higher, not smaller.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not that this is of any importance, as Dick says experimentation works fine, I was just trying to understand the logic behind it all.<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class="">[1] Apparently, the TeXShop list isn’t set up with a “Reply-to” setting, so Dick and the list were in my reply. I didn’t notice that at the time.</blockquote><br class=""></div></div><div class="">I think Karl said this is the default for TUG's-operated lists: by default a reply goes to the original poster only, you have to select "Reply All" to include the list as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Karl explained the logic behind this choice in a private email to Jonathan Kew and me back in the early days of the TeXworks list in 2008. I hope he doesn't mind me quoting him here:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"My experience is that it depends on the list. For example, when most</div>people sending to the list are people not on the list, but just<br class="">reporting bugs or whatever, replying to the list by default causes mucho<br class="">confusion.<br class=""><br class="">(Aside: What I want is an option that says "reply to the list *and* the<br class="">original poster, if the original poster is not on the list. Mailman<br class="">programmers rejected the idea, saying it was too much complication.<br class="">Someone else sent me a patch to do it anyway, since it's needed whatever<br class="">mailman people think, but it doesn't work with current mailman. Sigh.<br class="">Maybe I'll pester Barry again one day.)"<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you (and other people here -- Dick, Herb, Stephen, ...) think a Reply-To would be better, we may ask Karl to change the setup (he did so for the TeXworks list at the time).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Often I forget, press Reply and the reply goes to the original poster only, then when I realize what happened and I end up forwarding the reply to the list. Otherwise I press Reply All and edit the To and CC fields by hand to remove the original poster (not that this is really needed). A minor annoyance.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="1E2FAE49-ABA1-4F10-B9BC-92FF3C397967" width="80" height="108" src="cid:E0B0E840-55DB-4AEB-A4DE-0D4B1AAFCDE3@home" class=""></div></body></html>